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Oh my GOD!  This is horrific.  Denise is only 5 years younger than my mother, and is actually old enough to be Frankie's GRANDMOTHER, never mind his mother!  She is sooooooooo embarrassing!  I have a cousin who I don't see too often, who is 48 now, and she has 5 kids - the first two she had at 17 and 18, (boys,) by one man who she split up with when they were 4 and 5....  and then she had the third at 26 (a girl -  she split up with her dad when she was one,)  and then she had two more girls at 32 and 33.  (she split up with their dad when they were babies.)

 

Anyway, when her 2 boys were about 12 to 14, and the first girl about 4 or 5, she was about 30, and she regularly had loads of boys around - (friends of her 2 sons,) and she used to let them stay.. She often dumped her first daughter on her parents, and got drunk with these lads and her two sons, and went clubbing with them, and hung around town with them... and the whole family thought she was actually quite disturbed and desperate and attention seeking, and even after she had the other 2 girls in the mid 30s, (whose father she split up with when they were babies,) she STILL acted like a desperate old slapper.

 

Now she is late 40,s and STILL tries to get 'down with the kids,' but her 3 oldest kids are mid to late 20s and have kids of their own and don't visit her a lot, and her 2 young girls (mid teens now,) HATE it when she tries to be pally with their mates and they keep their boyfriends away from her.  Even at 48, she tries to act young, and many people she knows now, think she is a sad and desperate slapper.  She dates 18 to 23 year old lads with baseball caps and it's so embarrassing, and she has tacky tattooes that her pal did and dyes her hair black (even though it has never been black!) and she still goes clubbing with friends 15 years younger than her.

 

Her and Denise would get on well.   Upshot is, no matter how some people say that people should be allowed to behave how they want at any age, you DO behave a certain way when you get to a certain age...  And it is NOT the way that Denise behaves.  She is just a sad old slapper.   

FM
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:

She's playing a blinder isn't she?

I shouldn't worry about her kids mind. From their cosseted, footballer alley, homeland in the Prestbury, Alderley, Wilmslow, scalene  triangle, they are more likely to feel sorry for us. Indeed, I dare say that they would not piss on us if we were on fire.

Just a job that Mum and Dad do.

I'm torn GJ,part of me says: they're only breasts and the other part of me says; why get 'em out on national TV? The 'kids' on there obviously thought that she was embarrassing herself, so maybe her kids thought the same? (whatever part of Cheshire they live)..Then again it's okay for them to get 'em out in the 'lad's mags' but I suppose they think that's more 'tasteful'?

Soooo, maybe it's an age thing...or a drunk thing?......Whichever, she certainly likes getting 'em out and thinks it's funny 

FM
Originally Posted by stonks:
Originally Posted by ~Lee~:
Originally Posted by stonks:
Originally Posted by Renton:

Sound goes off half way

Awww soz it must have been when I was uploading it, it was ok when I filmed it....

..I filmed it off the net with me phone..

Fess up Stonks,you were in the runs filming,the secret of the pervy camera operator is out.

~Lee~
Originally Posted by ~Lee~:
Originally Posted by stonks:
Originally Posted by ~Lee~:
Originally Posted by stonks:
Originally Posted by Renton:

Sound goes off half way

Awww soz it must have been when I was uploading it, it was ok when I filmed it....

..I filmed it off the net with me phone..

Fess up Stonks,you were in the runs filming,the secret of the pervy camera operator is out.

You could be right..if you see some zoom ins on Frankies dangly bits, you know its me....

stonks
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
I thought that being in the limelight was what celebs did. : puzzled : that's why they are there. I also thought that Frankie was in his thirties. Elsewhere, do I detect a faint hint of ageism?

Not from me Joe but it is Chavism or Deniseism..she just discusts me..she discusts Mr stonks aswell and he's closer to her age than me....

stonks
Originally Posted by stonks:
Originally Posted by ~Lee~:
Originally Posted by stonks:
Originally Posted by ~Lee~:
Originally Posted by stonks:
Originally Posted by Renton:

Sound goes off half way

Awww soz it must have been when I was uploading it, it was ok when I filmed it....

..I filmed it off the net with me phone..

Fess up Stonks,you were in the runs filming,the secret of the pervy camera operator is out.

You could be right..if you see some zoom ins on Frankies dangly bits, you know its me....

 I'd gouge my eyes out,and yours.There's pervey but that sight would be depraved.

~Lee~
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
I thought that being in the limelight was what celebs did. : puzzled : that's why they are there. I also thought that Frankie was in his thirties. Elsewhere, do I detect a faint hint of ageism?

I'd say: YUP

I'd have to agree with GJ. Sorry ..........................but - all around you on holiday women of all shapes and sizes and ages get their boobs out (personally I don't) but - I don't find it offensive TBH. As (dare I say) I don't find Denise particularly offensive!

Soozy Woo
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:

I'm not offended by her going topless.. and of course women do it on holiday all the time.   I'm only offended (not quite the right word) by her reasons for doing it.   She wasn't sunbathing...she's not a naturist.. she's trying to appear 'fun' and 'up for it' ... and she's trying way too hard. 

....I also think how does her family feel and how she will cope with the possible negative reaction to her antics when she comes out.

~Lee~
Originally Posted by ~Lee~:
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:

I'm not offended by her going topless.. and of course women do it on holiday all the time.   I'm only offended (not quite the right word) by her reasons for doing it.   She wasn't sunbathing...she's not a naturist.. she's trying to appear 'fun' and 'up for it' ... and she's trying way too hard. 

....I also think how does her family feel and how she will cope with the possible negative reaction to her antics when she comes out.

She will go for the sympathy vote,it will be tears now.Michael will be blamed for all her actions .

FM
Originally Posted by erinp:
Originally Posted by ~Lee~:
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:

I'm not offended by her going topless.. and of course women do it on holiday all the time.   I'm only offended (not quite the right word) by her reasons for doing it.   She wasn't sunbathing...she's not a naturist.. she's trying to appear 'fun' and 'up for it' ... and she's trying way too hard. 

....I also think how does her family feel and how she will cope with the possible negative reaction to her antics when she comes out.

She will go for the sympathy vote,it will be tears now.Michael will be blamed for all her actions .

It's looking that way Erin..

Senora Reyes
Originally Posted by erinp:
Originally Posted by ~Lee~:
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:

I'm not offended by her going topless.. and of course women do it on holiday all the time.   I'm only offended (not quite the right word) by her reasons for doing it.   She wasn't sunbathing...she's not a naturist.. she's trying to appear 'fun' and 'up for it' ... and she's trying way too hard. 

....I also think how does her family feel and how she will cope with the possible negative reaction to her antics when she comes out.

She will go for the sympathy vote,it will be tears now.Michael will be blamed for all her actions .

If at 53 she blames instead of being truthful with herself there's not much chance of change,sadly.

~Lee~
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
I thought that being in the limelight was what celebs did. : puzzled : that's why they are there. I also thought that Frankie was in his thirties. Elsewhere, do I detect a faint hint of ageism?

You know Joe I've detected that too!

 

No matter their age people are still 'allowed' to have fun! It's got absolutely nothing to do with age and everything to do with self respect! As long as people respect themselves why the hell can't they have as much fun as they want? Age is totally irrelevant 

Jen-Star
Originally Posted by erinp:
Originally Posted by ~Lee~:
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:

I'm not offended by her going topless.. and of course women do it on holiday all the time.   I'm only offended (not quite the right word) by her reasons for doing it.   She wasn't sunbathing...she's not a naturist.. she's trying to appear 'fun' and 'up for it' ... and she's trying way too hard. 

....I also think how does her family feel and how she will cope with the possible negative reaction to her antics when she comes out.

She will go for the sympathy vote,it will be tears now.Michael will be blamed for all her actions .

its what drinkers do erin, its always someone elses fault, you cant help them unless they admit theres a problem. drinkers never walk away from an arguement, they just get nastier and nastier, and then when they sober up they are always full of remorse, and can spin anything and blame it on anyone apart from themselves

justafriend
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
I thought that being in the limelight was what celebs did. : puzzled : that's why they are there. I also thought that Frankie was in his thirties. Elsewhere, do I detect a faint hint of ageism?

I'd say: YUP

I'd have to agree with GJ. Sorry ..........................but - all around you on holiday women of all shapes and sizes and ages get their boobs out (personally I don't) but - I don't find it offensive TBH. As (dare I say) I don't find Denise particularly offensive!

LOL. I was agreeing with GJ!

FM
Originally Posted by justafriend:
Originally Posted by erinp:
Originally Posted by ~Lee~:
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:

I'm not offended by her going topless.. and of course women do it on holiday all the time.   I'm only offended (not quite the right word) by her reasons for doing it.   She wasn't sunbathing...she's not a naturist.. she's trying to appear 'fun' and 'up for it' ... and she's trying way too hard. 

....I also think how does her family feel and how she will cope with the possible negative reaction to her antics when she comes out.

She will go for the sympathy vote,it will be tears now.Michael will be blamed for all her actions .

its what drinkers do erin, its always someone elses fault, you cant help them unless they admit theres a problem. drinkers never walk away from an arguement, they just get nastier and nastier, and then when they sober up they are always full of remorse, and can spin anything and blame it on anyone apart from themselves

And thats what Denise has been doing ,the others should not enable her and call her out .Michael did tonight at the noms and she didn't like the truth.

FM
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
I thought that being in the limelight was what celebs did. : puzzled : that's why they are there. I also thought that Frankie was in his thirties. Elsewhere, do I detect a faint hint of ageism?

I'd say: YUP

I'd have to agree with GJ. Sorry ..........................but - all around you on holiday women of all shapes and sizes and ages get their boobs out (personally I don't) but - I don't find it offensive TBH. As (dare I say) I don't find Denise particularly offensive!

LOL. I was agreeing with GJ!

I know ................i just can't mutli quote . i press the quote button like a maniac in order to be seen to be vaguely on topic!

Soozy Woo
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
It's true! On holidays, particularly on the Baltic coast, women of all ages go for the natural look. So it doesn't offend me when young women like Denise do the same.

Ahhhh Mr but what if yer old mam goddem out in a "whey hey lads look at these" kinda way rather than I'm quietly sunbathing and I don't want strap marks/ tits are tits what's the big deal kindda way?....That's the difference for me

FM
Originally Posted by justafriend: .

its what drinkers do erin, its always someone elses fault, you cant help them unless they admit theres a problem. drinkers never walk away from an arguement, they just get nastier and nastier, and then when they sober up they are always full of remorse, and can spin anything and blame it on anyone apart from themselves

Justa, spot on

FM
Originally Posted by sandra:

i wore a woolly hat with pom poms  other day my daughter said i was an emmbaresment  wow what if i done that lol 

Ha Ha.....remember my sis dropping off her kids at school in her business suit and them being embarrassed...begging her to wear leggins etc. to 'be like the other mums'

FM
Originally Posted by justafriend:
Originally Posted by erinp:
Originally Posted by ~Lee~:
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:

I'm not offended by her going topless.. and of course women do it on holiday all the time.   I'm only offended (not quite the right word) by her reasons for doing it.   She wasn't sunbathing...she's not a naturist.. she's trying to appear 'fun' and 'up for it' ... and she's trying way too hard. 

....I also think how does her family feel and how she will cope with the possible negative reaction to her antics when she comes out.

She will go for the sympathy vote,it will be tears now.Michael will be blamed for all her actions .

its what drinkers do erin, its always someone elses fault, you cant help them unless they admit theres a problem. drinkers never walk away from an arguement, they just get nastier and nastier, and then when they sober up they are always full of remorse, and can spin anything and blame it on anyone apart from themselves

The shame game V the blame game ,and round and around it goes,sadly.

~Lee~

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