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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
Awww don't feel guilty. Hug You have given a loving home to a cat, where she is going to be loved and looked after Nod As I said, you don't have to let her out - or you could get her a lead - some people do Nod


I do love her dearly and because she has extra paws and stuff I felt like if I didnt take her home noone would have picked her :-). She is a member of my family now and me and my fella lover her (even though he would never admit it). I have a lead for her. (doesnt like it very much lol).


Extra paws? Confused
FM
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Originally posted by Gorgeous Mimi:
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Originally posted by Angel of the North:

Extra paws? Confused


Meant toes on her paws lol Laugh


I was going to saw....never mind letting her out, sell her to the circus Red Face

I cant remember what we did with ours about letting them out coz it was ages ago...so I am no help whatsoever with the original question, sorry. I think once they had been 'done' they just went out, they dont seem to go very far tho.
FM
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Originally posted by Angel of the North:
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Originally posted by Gorgeous Mimi:
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Originally posted by Angel of the North:

Extra paws? Confused


Meant toes on her paws lol Laugh


I was going to saw....never mind letting her out, sell her to the circus Red Face

I cant remember what we did with ours about letting them out coz it was ages ago...so I am no help whatsoever with the original question, sorry. I think once they had been 'done' they just went out, they dont seem to go very far tho.


Glance Guards Lilly from Angel of the North Big Grin
GorgeousMimi
You're doing all the right things Mimi. Taking your cat out on the lead so it can adjust to its surroundings. Sights, sounds, smells etc. It doesn't take them long and you just have to take the chance some time.

My sister-in-law lived on a busy main road (with a roundabout virtually just outside the house too with busy main roads leading in 3 directions) but her cat, Misty, never strayed outside the front - she always remained in the back garden and seemed scared of the traffic anyway.

I don't think it matters that much where you live really. We live in a very quiet suburban road, albeit in a corner house and one of our cats got run over anyway! We didn't know he was deaf (he was all white and apparently white cats are nearly always deaf).

He was chasing leaves across the side road and he ran out right in front of this poor lady as she turned her car into the road. She was absolutely distraught but it wasn't her fault - she even offered to pay for the vet bills bless her (didn't take her up on it though).

Rushed him to the vet but his neck was broken so we had no alternative but to put him to sleep. He was only six months old and we'd only had him neutered the week before too, poor little chap.

I always find that female cats tend to stay closer to home so I think your Lilly will be fine Mimi.

My Mother's cat was a house cat and he was perfectly happy indoors. Showed no inclination to want to go out actually.

Personally, I prefer to let them out as I think cats should be free to roam but we do have a cat flap so they do come and go as they please. Even our rabbit used it!!

All the best with your little kitty Mimi. Thumbs Up
HyacinthB
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Originally posted by HyacinthB:
You're doing all the right things Mimi. Taking your cat out on the lead so it can adjust to its surroundings. Sights, sounds, smells etc. It doesn't take them long and you just have to take the chance some time.

My sister-in-law lived on a busy main road (with a roundabout virtually just outside the house too with busy main roads leading in 3 directions) but her cat, Misty, never strayed outside the front - she always remained in the back garden and seemed scared of the traffic anyway.

I don't think it matters that much where you live really. We live in a very quiet suburban road, albeit in a corner house and one of our cats got run over anyway! We didn't know he was deaf (he was all white and apparently white cats are nearly always deaf).

He was chasing leaves across the side road and he ran out right in front of this poor lady as she turned her car into the road. She was absolutely distraught but it wasn't her fault - she even offered to pay for the vet bills bless her (didn't take her up on it though).

Rushed him to the vet but his neck was broken so we had no alternative but to put him to sleep. He was only six months old and we'd only had him neutered the week before too, poor little chap.

I always find that female cats tend to stay closer to home so I think your Lilly will be fine Mimi.

My Mother's cat was a house cat and he was perfectly happy indoors. Showed no inclination to want to go out actually.

Personally, I prefer to let them out as I think cats should be free to roam but we do have a cat flap so they do come and go as they please. Even our rabbit used it!!

All the best with your little kitty Mimi. Thumbs Up


Thank you hun, x Valentine
GorgeousMimi
oops only just seen this and even though you have had lots of advice from the nice folk here,
I thought I might as well stick MY twopence worth in Wink
as I am persently a servant for a large black swine tom cat, and have been the servant of many a cat in the past,

firstly you CAN train a cat, IF you want her to get used to the lead, keep it on her walk her around in the house with it on...it will take time and at times you WILL feel cruel,
but ONLY do this if yo intend to ALWAYS do it when she is out, otherwise it would be cruel

also when you feed her whistle her or make some sort of noise to get her to come for her food, even if she is right next to you (as they usualy are) when feeding her, she will then associate this wistle or noise with being fed,

when you let her out into the yard or something for the first few times...DONT feed her beforehand,
let her out and stay with her for a few mins then whistle her in and FEED her,
you can then gradually increase the length of time that you let her out,
always use the same tone of noise/wistle when you want her in, cats have very good hearing and she will hear you from quite a way off,

but FIRST make sure she has had her injections and worming tablet/s
and it would be a good idea to get her spayed first, unless ya want a bunch of tiny litte squeaky things in ya house,

as for road sense? well they DO learn to avoid busy roads and traffic, but sadly some dont have time to learn, and thats just the way it is,

the most dangerous time for them is the first 6 months of going out IF they survive that then their chances improve,
but ya never feel 100% safe sadly, mine has been going out for about a year now...but I STILL worry when I aint seen him for a couple of hours,
oh AND get a collar with a bell to give the wildlife a bit of a chance to hear her coming,
and TRY to keep her indoors in the early part of the day and at dusk cause thats when the birds are most vunerable,(and when the roads are busy)
and be prepared for the horrors of her bringing dead or semi dead things home,
I know she is a sweet cute little kitty...but trust me, she is ALSO a natural predator she WILL hunt and kill things s not her fault its just what cats do,
even with a collar and a bell mine STILL catches birds, mice, and wild rabbits, so be prepared,
I have had half a rabbit in the bedroom, a rabbits head in the kitchen and managed to rescue a vole in the space of 2 weeks,

and enjoy ya cat they are very loyal and are brilliant pets despite what SOME cat haters would tell ya,
Thumbs Up
old hippy guy
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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
oops only just seen this and even though you have had lots of advice from the nice folk here,
I thought I might as well stick MY twopence worth in Wink
as I am persently a servant for a large black swine tom cat, and have been the servant of many a cat in the past,

firstly you CAN train a cat, IF you want her to get used to the lead, keep it on her walk her around in the house with it on...it will take time and at times you WILL feel cruel,
but ONLY do this if yo intend to ALWAYS do it when she is out, otherwise it would be cruel

also when you feed her whistle her or make some sort of noise to get her to come for her food, even if she is right next to you (as they usualy are) when feeding her, she will then associate this wistle or noise with being fed,

when you let her out into the yard or something for the first few times...DONT feed her beforehand,
let her out and stay with her for a few mins then whistle her in and FEED her,
you can then gradually increase the length of time that you let her out,
always use the same tone of noise/wistle when you want her in, cats have very good hearing and she will hear you from quite a way off,

but FIRST make sure she has had her injections and worming tablet/s
and it would be a good idea to get her spayed first, unless ya want a bunch of tiny litte squeaky things in ya house,

as for road sense? well they DO learn to avoid busy roads and traffic, but sadly some dont have time to learn, and thats just the way it is,

the most dangerous time for them is the first 6 months of going out IF they survive that then their chances improve,
but ya never feel 100% safe sadly, mine has been going out for about a year now...but I STILL worry when I aint seen him for a couple of hours,
oh AND get a collar with a bell to give the wildlife a bit of a chance to hear her coming,
and TRY to keep her indoors in the early part of the day and at dusk cause thats when the birds are most vunerable,(and when the roads are busy)
and be prepared for the horrors of her bringing dead or semi dead things home,
I know she is a sweet cute little kitty...but trust me, she is ALSO a natural predator she WILL hunt and kill things s not her fault its just what cats do,
even with a collar and a bell mine STILL catches birds, mice, and wild rabbits, so be prepared,
I have had half a rabbit in the bedroom, a rabbits head in the kitchen and managed to rescue a vole in the space of 2 weeks,

and enjoy ya cat they are very loyal and are brilliant pets despite what SOME cat haters would tell ya,
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Excellent words of wisdom OHG Thumbs Up Clapping
Mauser
you could buy or build a cat run.....we used to have one years ago....built it ourselves....had a tree stump in it for them to scratch on....sheltered area for shade bad weather etc...

letting her out supervised is good to start with,....then as ohg suggests.....let her out then tap her food tin or bowl...then feed her when she comes in....that way she'll always associate coming back with food.......it's the way we get ours in and never fails!!!...

some cats are just happy to stay inside....2 of ours hardly ever go out.....and if they do it's a quick wander round the garden for about 5 minutes....before it's back on the sofa for a kip.... Big Grin

the other 2 like to disappear off onto the heath behind our house.....but they always come back once they hear the food bowl being tapped....

i always keep them in at night though.....always have done.
SS
Hi Mimi..... yes cats can be spayed from around 6 months..... and you are doing everything right getting her used to her surroundings. SOME cats are house cats and you have no problems at all keeping them in. I myself have two Ragdoll cats and they are happy to sit on the decking and never stray. You can buy a cat run as Hycinthb suggested, they are very good for people who live in build up area's. But, you know, cats are very resilient creatures, if you think of the amount of cats there are around, even stray's . It's a very low percentage that dont learn road sense.

I'm a vet BTW, I wouldn't worry about little Lilly.... where she senses she is loved she will never stray too far Hug
Bethni
We had a front garden and a back garden and I would only let our kittens into the back garden while they were young, under my supervision.

Then when she was 11 months, the kitten went round the front and there was a ding-dong on my bell. The person at the door said there was a cat in the road. Was it ours? My gosh, it was. She had broken her pelvis and it cost several hundred ÂĢ to fix her up. After that, she always had a weepy eye and I don't think her head ever grew any more. It's even possible she had brain damage. But she lasted till she was 15 and never went out the front again.

While your kitten is so young, I would supervise her visits out the back.

But, at the same time, as another poster suggested, I would take her out the front, in your arms, to show her the cars and the noise they make.

Sorry to tell you a sad tale. But this was the second of our cats to be run over in this road, which wasn't a busy one. Sadly, it does happen and it is heartbreaking.
jennywren
also, coming into winter can be a dangerous time for cats cause people fill their cars with anti freeze, and there is something in anti freeze that cats find hard to resist,
they will lick it up, and it only takes a tiny ammount to kill a cat, I lost the best cat I ever had because of this, he was 8 years old, and its a horrible way for a cat to die,
so PLEASE people clean up any anti freeze that drips onto your yard/drive etc, Nod
old hippy guy
Yeah my Ragdolls are called Paris and Troy and they are adorable. I grew up with my mothers best ever cat...my mother was given her on mothers day when i was 2yrs old .... she lived till i was almost 21 ! I was at Uni and they didn't tell me till the holidays, i was so heartbroken. Cats are an emmense joy, mine even know when i'm not feeling good and bring me their toys! Needless to say that because of whats happening just now with no BB , I'm surrounded by squeaky mice, wool balls and !fluffy ducks
Bethni
OH dear! the less nice side of being a cat owner has JUST happened,
I had to go n rescue a bird from my little hunter, dunno WHAT I can do, I do all the right things he HAS a collar and a bell I keep him in during the early and late part of the day,....

but he got a young bird, it DOES upset me greatly when, like just a few minutes ago I get a live bird off him but it is obviously far too injured to survive the poor we thing,
and I KNOW I should finnish it off but I cant, so I have put it in a box in the shed while I wait for it to die,
be warned folks your little cat WILL kill things and it IS upseting when it happens,
I am gonna get him another collar and take the bell off it and put it on the one he has so that he has TWO bells, but the young birds STILL have no chance
it is heartbreaking especially when the mother bird was going frantic in the yard she even had a worm in her mouth... I am gutted, Frowner

but HE is just doing what a cat does, its not HIS fault, Shake Head
old hippy guy
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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
OH dear! the less nice side of being a cat owner has JUST happened,
I had to go n rescue a bird from my little hunter, dunno WHAT I can do, I do all the right things he HAS a collar and a bell I keep him in during the early and late part of the day,....

but he got a young bird, it DOES upset me greatly when, like just a few minutes ago I get a live bird off him but it is obviously far too injured to survive the poor we thing,
and I KNOW I should finnish it off but I cant, so I have put it in a box in the shed while I wait for it to die,
be warned folks your little cat WILL kill things and it IS upseting when it happens,
I am gonna get him another collar and take the bell off it and put it on the one he has so that he has TWO bells, but the young birds STILL have no chance
it is heartbreaking especially when the mother bird was going frantic in the yard she even had a worm in her mouth... I am gutted, Frowner

but HE is just doing what a cat does, its not HIS fault, Shake Head


He's a cat. He's a little lion. It's what they do. I used to find half-a-mouse all over the place. Once, when I moved the washing machine for a tidy-up, there were 6 dead frogs all leaning against a leaking pipe.
jennywren
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Originally posted by wandawitch:
Move.


move...move what?
cause IF you meant move to somewhere where there are no birds, where would that be exactly?
AND the fact that myself and my partner have just spent several thousands of pounds moving TO this area (like two months ago) its not very likley that we will be moving again anytime soon, Confused
old hippy guy
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