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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
nah facial piercings, and women with a tattoo on their back just above the Rse (very original....NOT) OH AND drinking in the street,
oh AND people should have to APPLY to be a parent, and if they cant SUPPORT a kid (and are healthy enough) then they souldnt be allowed to breed,.....and erm.....give me time,

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
The thief argument doesn't really work. Otherwise, the law-abiding of us would never have to prove our identity when, for example, opening bank accounts. Only thieves would have to do that. Petrol stations are private sales outlets and they have CCTV for security. It'd be like wearing a balaclava when trying on an expensive diamond ring, you can see why a shop assistant might be wary letting you put it on your hand when you could bolt for the door.

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Originally posted by Demantoid:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
nah facial piercings, and women with a tattoo on their back just above the Rse (very original....NOT) OH AND drinking in the street,
oh AND people should have to APPLY to be a parent, and if they cant SUPPORT a kid (and are healthy enough) then they souldnt be allowed to breed,.....and erm.....give me time,

I think some small and subtle facial piercings are nice (eyebrow, nose), as long as it's not a mugful of ironmongery.
Totally agree on all the rest, though

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Demantoid:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
nah facial piercings, and women with a tattoo on their back just above the Rse (very original....NOT) OH AND drinking in the street,
oh AND people should have to APPLY to be a parent, and if they cant SUPPORT a kid (and are healthy enough) then they souldnt be allowed to breed,.....and erm.....give me time,

I think some small and subtle facial piercings are nice (eyebrow, nose), as long as it's not a mugful of ironmongery.
Totally agree on all the rest, though

I have a sort of "phobia" about face metal, it has exactly the same affect on me as a huge weeping colds sore or zit, doesnt matter HOW attractive a lady might be if she has metal in her face it just makes me want to hurl, MAJOR turn off,

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Originally posted by Demantoid:

Are you OK if it's just in their ears?

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Demantoid:

Are you OK if it's just in their ears?

erm.... if they have long hair yes

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Originally posted by Demantoid:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Demantoid:

Are you OK if it's just in their ears?

erm.... if they have long hair yes

I would freak you out.I don't have any in my face, but a few each in each ear, including here[

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I believe burkhas to be a fashion item, and the people who call for their banning remind me of the fuddy duddies and assorted whacky old codgers who wanted to ban long hair and mini skirts.

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I believe burkhas to be a fashion item, and the people who call for their banning remind me of the fuddy duddies and assorted whacky old codgers who wanted to ban long hair and mini skirts.

and not forgetting when quite recently there were calls for the banning of "hoodies" and even basball caps in certain places,.... well I wear a baseball cap and sometimes a hoodie as well,....does that make ME a potential "trouble maker"?....I am 56!!!

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I believe burkhas to be a fashion item, and the people who call for their banning remind me of the fuddy duddies and assorted whacky old codgers who wanted to ban long hair and mini skirts.

and not forgetting when quite recently there were calls for the banning of "hoodies" and even basball caps in certain places,.... well I wear a baseball cap and sometimes a hoodie as well,....does that make ME a potential "trouble maker"?....I am 56!!!

Ah! You have me at a disadvantage OHG. I would probably ban baseball fashion on the grounds of taste.

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I believe burkhas to be a fashion item, and the people who call for their banning remind me of the fuddy duddies and assorted whacky old codgers who wanted to ban long hair and mini skirts.

and not forgetting when quite recently there were calls for the banning of "hoodies" and even basball caps in certain places,.... well I wear a baseball cap and sometimes a hoodie as well,....does that make ME a potential "trouble maker"?....I am 56!!!

Ah! You have me at a disadvantage OHG. I would probably ban baseball fashion on the grounds of taste.

oh I KNOW how ya feel,
but I started wearing mine about 30 years ago long before they were a "fashion" thing, and I aint gonna stop wearing one now just cause they have a certain "stigma" attatched to em,
I know myself, and dont give a flying one what anyone else thinks

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I believe burkhas to be a fashion item, and the people who call for their banning remind me of the fuddy duddies and assorted whacky old codgers who wanted to ban long hair and mini skirts.

and not forgetting when quite recently there were calls for the banning of "hoodies" and even basball caps in certain places,.... well I wear a baseball cap and sometimes a hoodie as well,....does that make ME a potential "trouble maker"?....I am 56!!!

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I believe burkhas to be a fashion item, and the people who call for their banning remind me of the fuddy duddies and assorted whacky old codgers who wanted to ban long hair and mini skirts.

and not forgetting when quite recently there were calls for the banning of "hoodies" and even basball caps in certain places,.... well I wear a baseball cap and sometimes a hoodie as well,....does that make ME a potential "trouble maker"?....I am 56!!!

Ah! You have me at a disadvantage OHG. I would probably ban baseball fashion on the grounds of taste.

oh I KNOW how ya feel,
but I started wearing mine about 30 years ago long before they were a "fashion" thing, and I aint gonna stop wearing one now just cause they have a certain "stigma" attatched to em,
I know myself, and dont give a flying one what anyone else thinks

No no! Iknow how you feel. Like my two mates who worked in the same business as you, one in construction and one a roadie, you moved in those hip circles.

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Originally posted by Demantoid:
I'm not a fan of them, and fundamentally I believe they are an instrument in the oppression of women - whatever the women wearing them may say.

But I don't believe we should ban them. Doing so would make us seem as dictatorial as the mullahs who insist women should cover themselves up from head to toe. Although there ARE plenty of Muslim countries where wearing them is not acceptable - Turkey has banned them - I think we should be a little more tolerant.

However, in situations where identity and security are issues, such as banks or airports, I think it's reasonable to expect them to be removed. You wouldn't walk up to a bank teller or airline check-in desk wearing a ski mask, and burkhas are no different.

Likewise, if you feel uncomfortable having to speak to a doctor, teacher or someone else in a professional situation who is wearing a burkha, they should remove it. We are a face-to-face society, and people's attitudes and beliefs should accommodate this.

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I would probably ban baseball fashion on the grounds of taste.

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Originally posted by fabienne:
Maybe women should be banned from wearing trousers too and forced to show their legs whether they want to or not.

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Originally posted by DanceSettee:

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Originally posted by fabienne:
Maybe women should be banned from wearing trousers too and forced to show their legs whether they want to or not.

They already do that in many schools

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Originally posted by Irish-Princess:
I personally think they should be restricted to Islamic Countries. When Brits etc go to Dubai etc they have to follow the guidelines of that country so why is is any different here?

This sounds quite narrow minded- it isn't really I understand the reason behind the Burkha and all, but I get scared when I see women with them on, I don't assume they are bombers or anything like that but the sense of not knowing what they look like and they fact they are hiding their face pits me at unease.

(f there are any Islamic people on here I apologise if I offend)

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Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:


That's true. I remember being told when I was at school that we had to wear gym skirts to play hockey outside even though it was snowing, while the boys were allowed to wear tracksuits.

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Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:

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Originally posted by Demantoid:
I'm not a fan of them, and fundamentally I believe they are an instrument in the oppression of women - whatever the women wearing them may say.

But I don't believe we should ban them. Doing so would make us seem as dictatorial as the mullahs who insist women should cover themselves up from head to toe. Although there ARE plenty of Muslim countries where wearing them is not acceptable - Turkey has banned them - I think we should be a little more tolerant.

However, in situations where identity and security are issues, such as banks or airports, I think it's reasonable to expect them to be removed. You wouldn't walk up to a bank teller or airline check-in desk wearing a ski mask, and burkhas are no different.

Likewise, if you feel uncomfortable having to speak to a doctor, teacher or someone else in a professional situation who is wearing a burkha, they should remove it. We are a face-to-face society, and people's attitudes and beliefs should accommodate this.

I agree with everything you say here Deman. Personally, I find the Burkha every bit as offensive as Page Three. I would never insist on a ban as I believe people should be free to express themselves however they wish, although by that chain of though I find it odd that it's not acceptable to be naked in public, but I do think some restriction should be put in place for security/communication issues. I also feel that many, although not all, women who wear the burkha are pressured into doing so, by peer pressure and the acceptance of cultural norms.

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Originally posted by Veggieburger:

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Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:

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Originally posted by Demantoid:
I'm not a fan of them, and fundamentally I believe they are an instrument in the oppression of women - whatever the women wearing them may say.

But I don't believe we should ban them. Doing so would make us seem as dictatorial as the mullahs who insist women should cover themselves up from head to toe. Although there ARE plenty of Muslim countries where wearing them is not acceptable - Turkey has banned them - I think we should be a little more tolerant.

However, in situations where identity and security are issues, such as banks or airports, I think it's reasonable to expect them to be removed. You wouldn't walk up to a bank teller or airline check-in desk wearing a ski mask, and burkhas are no different.

Likewise, if you feel uncomfortable having to speak to a doctor, teacher or someone else in a professional situation who is wearing a burkha, they should remove it. We are a face-to-face society, and people's attitudes and beliefs should accommodate this.

I agree with everything you say here Deman. Personally, I find the Burkha every bit as offensive as Page Three. I would never insist on a ban as I believe people should be free to express themselves however they wish, although by that chain of though I find it odd that it's not acceptable to be naked in public, but I do think some restriction should be put in place for security/communication issues. I also feel that many, although not all, women who wear the burkha are pressured into doing so, by peer pressure and the acceptance of cultural norms.

I will shamefully piggyback on what you two have said.

Because you have both said it so well

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Originally posted by Veggieburger:
I will shamefully piggyback on what you two have said.

Because you have both said it so well

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Originally posted by stonks:
Where is the Burhka shop and how much are they?.I'd love to make a tartan or flowery one, see if they catch on....

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Originally posted by stonks:
Where is the Burhka shop and how much are they?.I'd love to make a tartan or flowery one, see if they catch on....

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Originally posted by stonks:
Where is the Burhka shop and how much are they?.I'd love to make a tartan or flowery one, see if they catch on....

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Originally posted by Demantoid:

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Originally posted by stonks:
Where is the Burhka shop and how much are they?.I'd love to make a tartan or flowery one, see if they catch on....

But no crotchless ones, y'hear?

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Originally posted by Kaytee:

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Originally posted by stonks:
Where is the Burhka shop and how much are they?.I'd love to make a tartan or flowery one, see if they catch on....

Stonks is a stylista

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Originally posted by DanceSettee:

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Originally posted by stonks:
Where is the Burhka shop and how much are they?.I'd love to make a tartan or flowery one, see if they catch on....

i can make one to order for you if you want

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Originally posted by fabienne:
I wonder if we'll get the burka ads at the bottom of the page again, as we did the other day.

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Originally posted by Demantoid:

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Originally posted by fabienne:
I wonder if we'll get the burka ads at the bottom of the page again, as we did the other day.

Yup, they're there!

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Originally posted by DanceSettee:

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Originally posted by stonks:
Where is the Burhka shop and how much are they?.I'd love to make a tartan or flowery one, see if they catch on....

i can make one to order for you if you want

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Originally posted by stonks:

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Originally posted by Kaytee:

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Originally posted by stonks:
Where is the Burhka shop and how much are they?.I'd love to make a tartan or flowery one, see if they catch on....

Stonks is a stylista

AKTttt!!!! ......

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Originally posted by Veggieburger:
Why have I never been offered a subscription to Hijaby La Mode Magazine?

The advert at the bottom has whetted my appetite

all I get is bliddy Readers Digest spam

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Originally posted by stonks:


Do you have a flowery one?....