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this sounds very bad but if we didnt send so much money to countries, that dont need it or it goes to a regime that uses it for personal gain

if we didnt have to support people that lie their way into the country & by european law we have to help them

maybe, just maybe, our own disabled (and i am VERY aware that there are some who would rather have benefits than work-dont worry, it hasnt passed me by)

and GENUINE people who need assistance wouldnt have their benefits cut

 

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Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:

I realise a lot of people are not happy about the budget. .I am on benefits so it affects me too but, can someone tell me how labour would have gone about it and what differences they would have made and how they would have reduced overall government spending?

 

Seriously interested not winding up.

 

Re the childcare thing.. I was an only child, back then you only got a child care allowance for the second one onwards, my parents got nowt extra.. not sure why having more kids means you should get more money. . Plus hasn't the number of free childcare hours per week gone up too to 30 so childcare won't take all the wages now of a Mum returning to work?  

 

 

In answer to your question Olly, I am not sure labour could have come up with anything different, they are the second tory party after all. 

 

But at least they would have been reigned in by some on the left instead of a rampage on the sick, poor, unemployed ,dying and those on the minimum wage 

that Osborne and the tories have set out to do...Labour did have a plan in 2010, not to cut as deep and pay back at a lower rate...they were ridiculed by Gideon. He would cut deep, and be done with the deficit in one parliament.

 

He cut deep to those that didn't cause the banking crash, all those people I mentioned ^^^ there, which labour wanted to avoid. Today, he's still not paid half of what we owe, wages are flat, he's given tax breaks to the rich...and once again we need to cut deep. No, we'll not tax the rich, we'll make the lower classes pay again, after all they get paid a great wage all of £6.50 an hour, and they don't need the luxury of an extra bedroom it only takes more to heat and they can't afford that. 

 

The figures are out there for all to see, he's borrowed more than any other Labour chancellor and five years on he's sending thousands more into poverty...oh, I forgot there is no poverty, they've got rid of that in one fell swoop...they have taken the figures away. 

 

I could go on forever and a day, but what's done is done....and I'm not debating it anymore. It's pointless, if people don't see that those that caused the crash should be bailing the UK out instead of those that didn't there's not much more to discuss Olly. 

 

 

 

Thanks for Answering Dame. .no real easy solutions as such.. but, I agree with that bit in black.. the banks are bust now and we are bust due to trying to rescue them, as are a lot of countries globally that all suffered the same thing, so not a lot of luck getting them to cough up.....

 

I don't think there is an easy answer at all .. I would have liked it to go slower tho and seen higher tax for higher paid to cover some of the welfare bill so it didn't have to be so hard hitting with cuts.. it's all just  complete mess really..

Mount Olympus *Olly*
Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:
 

Thanks for Answering Dame. .no real easy solutions as such.. but, I agree with that bit in black.. the banks are bust now and we are bust due to trying to rescue them, as are a lot of countries globally that all suffered the same thing, so not a lot of luck getting them to cough up.....

 

I don't think there is an easy answer at all .. I would have liked it to go slower tho and seen higher tax for higher paid to cover some of the welfare bill so it didn't have to be so hard hitting with cuts.. it's all just  complete mess really..

 

 

no problem Olly  We were given the choice of going slower and less cuts to the poor and disabled or cuts to the most needy in society, the country chose the latter.

We have 3250 DWP working on benefit fraud which stands at £1.2 billion...we have 300 tax officials investigating 70 billion in tax avoidance... I just find it all unbelievable.Like you said, no easy answers, but a lot of easier options in my opinion. 

 

 

 

 

Dame_Ann_Average

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