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I tried to search for the thread on this but appears you have to pay $25 to be able to search the forum

 

Anyway is anyone following this. .need to talk about he defences closing statement, it's driving me mad.

 

She tried to deflect blame away from the defendant, to create doubt in the jury's mind and to put the blame on the husband and father of the kid but, started off saying he was with another woman on the night his son died and had written a letter to his wife to say he was leaving her. She then said the boy spotted him in the car park with said other woman and he killed the boy so he wouldn't tell his wife.

 

am I going mad but isn't that a complete contradiction if he had already decided he was going to tell his wife it was all over?

 

Phew got it off my chest now ..was driving me bonkers last night

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*tip Olly, google the words you want and add gagajoyjoy and more than likely you'll find the thread* 

 

Half of what the prosecuting barrister said went over my head, I dislike her so much I want to throw things at my TV. You are right though, he said he was going to tell his wife, don't think it was proven though and could be said that he was lying I suppose.

My heads battered with it, so far I have Pauline Quirk guilty of nicking a skateboard and probably tax avoidance for selling cup cakes out of her caravan   

Dame_Ann_Average

Cheers guys at least I know I wasn't going mad... 

 

I think the Dad admitted to writing the letter when he was on the stand, it was definitely part of evidence given so provable which adds to the contradiction the defence gave when trying to sway the jury into having doubts as she painted a case for someone else supposedly being guilty of murder.. Writers didn't double check their story methinks

 

And yeah the defence barrister is a right biatch

 

and thanks for the search tip. .so it's free to search if you use google but, if you use the forum you have to pay.. 

 

*and yup I'm moaning about it again.. *

 

 

Mount Olympus *Olly*
Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:

If it comes up that he is found not guilty because of reasonable doubt it is a massive flaw in the whole script and will spoil it for me.. 

 

I don't like the barrister's sidekick either, but as you say they are probably acting well

I loved the look on her face when the bloke said he's always wanted to tell her she was a thoroughly horrible person.   Not at all what she expected... 

Kaffs
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:

If it comes up that he is found not guilty because of reasonable doubt it is a massive flaw in the whole script and will spoil it for me.. 

 

I don't like the barrister's sidekick either, but as you say they are probably acting well

I loved the look on her face when the bloke said he's always wanted to tell her she was a thoroughly horrible person.   Not at all what she expected... 

I loved her face too, like she had never realised until he said it 

Jen-Star
Originally Posted by Kaffs:

Good point Olly.   I was snoozy last night and by the time I got the to end of the episode had realised I need to watch it again because either I've missed bits, or they've missed bits out.   I was doing so well following it too... or so I thought.. 

It's making  a bit more sense now at least.. i started watching what I thought was the recording about 9.20 pm last night... seems I was watching it live - totally missed Hardie revealing the pregnancy, the interview with the 'stalker' and Ellie on the stand.   

Kaffs
Originally Posted by Kaffs:

As for the original point about why would he kill him.... I'm just rewatching that bit and the defence barrister is implying that seeing Danny 'brought Mark back to reality' and that he didn't want his wife to find out after all.   I think. 

oh that makes a bit more sense of it.. she could have made it clearer or maybe I am useless and missed the point she was trying to make

Mount Olympus *Olly*
Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:

As for the original point about why would he kill him.... I'm just rewatching that bit and the defence barrister is implying that seeing Danny 'brought Mark back to reality' and that he didn't want his wife to find out after all.   I think. 

oh that makes a bit more sense of it.. she could have made it clearer or maybe I am useless and missed the point she was trying to make

I wouldn't have picked up if I'd not rewatched..   She made a point of saying he'd 'mistaken a quick fumble in a car for true love' then just a bit later said 'Danny's face appearing at the window brought him sharply back to reality' (or something like that)

Kaffs

ah that's good then. .I think I got fixated on what felt like a huge contradiction and didn't concentrate on the rest. .Comprehension was never one of my good subjects at school

 

I feel so much better about the script now so if they do say not guilty I'll feel the argument was a good one not the flawed one I thought it was at first

Mount Olympus *Olly*
Last edited by Mount Olympus *Olly*

 

 

After thinking it through again, I still think it's the dad. In the first series they implied it was an adult bloke by the size of the strangle marks. Danny doesn't look that big for a teenager, he also admitted he murdered him before Ellie attacked him in the police station, I'm I mistaken in thinking the defence barrister said he confessed after she attacked him, which wasn't true  The twist could be the Dad did it, but walks free ...I rest my completely wrong case 

Dame_Ann_Average
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:

 

 

After thinking it through again, I still think it's the dad. In the first series they implied it was an adult bloke by the size of the strangle marks. Danny doesn't look that big for a teenager, he also admitted he murdered him before Ellie attacked him in the police station, I'm I mistaken in thinking the defence barrister said he confessed after she attacked him, which wasn't true  The twist could be the Dad did it, but walks free ...I rest my completely wrong case 

I still think the right man's on trial.   I think he might get away with it though.

Maybe looney Claire will bump him off - just for the hell of it.   You heard it here first....

 

(I think when Ellie said he'd confessed Defence Barrister Biatch said 'Was that before or after you attacked him' - but we all know it was before.   Don't we? )

Kaffs
Last edited by Kaffs
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
 

I still think the right man's on trial.   I think he might get away with it though.

Maybe looney Claire will bump him off - just for the hell of it.   You heard it here first....

(I think when Ellie said he'd confessed she said 'Was that before or after you attacked him' - but we all know it was before.   Don't we? )

 

and even if it was a false confession, why would you label yourself a pedophile, didn't Miller say he loved him  I am not getting what could be the twist, if he didn't do it they totally baffled us in series one, after making it obvious they had the right man   I'm sure I will have got it completely wrong though 

Dame_Ann_Average
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:

I'm also a tad disappointed in DT... playing like the dying man when he was only having a pacemaker fitted....   You'd think he was in for a quadruple bypass 

 

Drama queen.  

 

 

gorgeous wuss though 

Well yes, but if I'm not the one at his bedside (or somewhere in that vicinity) I'm not playing.

Kaffs
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:

I'm completely lost with most of it.. .I mean how do they expect us to recall all the stuff from the first series as well as keep up with the new stuff too...  my head hurts with it all

 

 

20 unanswered questions may refresh your memory Olly 

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvs...rch-Jim-Shelley.html

thanks for those. .think they've just added more questions than resolutions now

 

I've forgotten who was near the hut [where he died?] and someone had to take him to the boat to put him on the beach so it seems it must be more than one person involved and possibly a van too to transport his body.. which means the baldy headed guy could be involved as well.. unless I've got it wrong and he didn't die in the hut. .my head is so confused now with the all new stuff and then the old stuff that I've forgotten

Mount Olympus *Olly*
Last edited by Mount Olympus *Olly*
Originally Posted by Rexi:
Originally Posted by Cosmopolitan:
Originally Posted by Rexi:

What did you think then? I thought it was fabulous

 

Me too.  Although that defence barrister is a smug horror.

Well, you'd better get used to her because her son's story looks like being a feature in the next series

 

Yes, I think it is, Rexi.  I'll cope no doubt 

Cosmopolitan
Originally Posted by Rexi:
Originally Posted by Cosmopolitan:
Originally Posted by Rexi:

What did you think then? I thought it was fabulous

 

Me too.  Although that defence barrister is a smug horror.

Well, you'd better get used to her because her son's story looks like being a feature in the next series

Yes looks that way, doesn't it?     I loved the series - was glued to the final episode there.   

 

 

Kaffs

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