To all those who voted for it, watch C4's Despatches programme off last night. This is what you voted for in part
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But just beacuse you don't eat it, doesn't mean to say everyone else doesn't
Oh right, cos it just so happens that that prog was mostly about chicken but they treat other meats the same way too 
Trump wants our NHS!!!!!!!!!!! 
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Trump wants our NHS!!!!!!!!!!!
I saw the press conference. It would appear that he wants it on the table for any negotiations post Brexit. We should take it off the table.
Like I said....Brexiters voted for stuff like this 
There's a petition about that on Change.org
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Trump wants our NHS!!!!!!!!!!!
I saw the press conference. It would appear that he wants it on the table for any negotiations post Brexit. We should take it off the table.
Just watching ITV news and he now seems to be saying it may not be on the table - this guy confuses the hell out of me. !!! 
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Trump wants our NHS!!!!!!!!!!!
I saw the press conference. It would appear that he wants it on the table for any negotiations post Brexit. We should take it off the table.
Just watching ITV news and he now seems to be saying it may not be on the table - this guy confuses the hell out of me. !!!
That's why peeps need to do their own investigations
He's probably back-tracking (on the surface) because he's been made aware of the negative reaction, but doesn't mean he won't try and mess up our NHS anyway.
Fake news he says (of protests) 
Get yourselves on Twitter, folks. I have, and although I had a fair idea of what was going on, I've had my eyes opened
Because the US exports chlorinated chicken doesn't mean you gave to buy the stuff, you have a choice.
Trump never does his research properly, he didn't know that the NHS was a national institution not a business....so he can't get his mitts on it anyway
as for the protest in London....it wasn't up to much tbh...I walked from Trafalgar Square to Parliament Green and wasn't inconvenienced at all....the Media were herding people so it looked as though there were more than they were
and......if I'm honest, I'm sick to death of the whole thing ...I'll accept what transpires....eventually
Of all the Brexit threads I'll choose Sprout's 
Right, here we go. To Labour - don't agree on a General Election till we see where we are. As it stands, you'll lose. That is my opinion and the Tories are 1/5 on in Bet365. Tory majority is evens and they're not often wrong. Tory majority would give the blonde mad hatter carte blanche to go wild, and we all know what that means. Continuation of the present only ten times worse. More austerity the lot. Sajid Javid, you just need need to look at him. I can judge a book by it's cover. Played on his dad being a bus driver rinse repeat but he's a banker from the Far East. Any election should be fought on the domestic matters that count - and there's a lot. NOT BREXIT.
And shame on the Lib Dems and the SNP. Self interest first in the former - not the UK's - and we know where the latter stands. I listened to Swanson yesterday and I couldn't believe what I was hearing. She's a total donut. Any election now is Tory manna from heaven.
UK first. Not self interested politicians. No General Election.
What am I missing here Noddy aka Sturgeon? If the Tories get in bang goes your referendum. Banking on a landslide? Don't like over-confidence in any shape or form. Might be a few surprises. A GE is still irrelevant. We voted UK. And will do again. Think you're walking into Europe? I'll be walking into England.
Rangers fans recognised the poppy before yesterday's game with honour. Quite touching if you can get it. Lest we forget all up in a stand. Half the Celtic fans won't touch a poppy. Makes you wonder where you are. Scotland. And I have zero interest in Scottish football. Caught the highlights. West of Scotland's embedded madness. Sort out Govanhill Noddy before you start on Scotland. There's real problems there.
Never filled that out properly. Invited all the armed services, Erskine military rehab, had a gunned salute and a two minute silence. Not bad. Funny how I caught that. The poppy's how I'm typing here now.
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2/10 A source with knowledge of the trade talks told Dispatches that British trade negotiators have already held six official meetings with their US counterparts to talk about what might be in any trade deal.
3/10 Precise details of what has been discussed has been kept strictly confidential. But a Whitehall source has told us that drug pricing has been on the table in all six meetings.
4/10 The source told Dispatches how US drugs firms have been given direct access to British trade officials.
5/10 Dispatches has been told that as well as meeting with the US government, senior British trade officials have held face-to-face meetings with representatives of US drug firms, none of which have been declared.
6/10 Our source also told us that there have been five secret meetings between senior British civil servants and the US pharma industry. Two in Washington and three in London.
7/10 The most recent being in August after Boris Johnson had become Prime Minister. The source told us that drug “price caps” were discussed in at least one of these meetings.
8/10 We asked the Department for International Trade for a response on what we’ve discovered.
9/10 They said: “The sustainability of the NHS is an absolute priority for the government. We could not agree to any proposals or medicines pricing or access that would put NHS finances at risk or reduce clinician and patient choice.”
10/10 On Dispatches, we discover how the President’s allies and US drug giants want to force the NHS to pay more for US medicines.
WATCH: Trump’s Plan for the NHS. Tonight at 8pm on Channel 4.
Dispatches discovers how Donald Trump’s allies and US drug giants want to force the NHS to pay more for US medicines. Tahir Amin is a British lawyer based in America who is an expert on drug pricing and on previous trade negotiations.
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That's why no General Election Dame 
Takes me back to General Hi-Fi in Vids territory.
That too was a wild frontier. Some speakers, I heard them myself. Totally different story
They were built for Notting Hill Carnival, not domestic use.
Anyone who thinks the NHS is fine under this government and won't be sold off. Watch C4's Despatches, just been on at 8pm.....get it on catchup
Watching gets you nowhere unfortunately. Feck wise-crackin' journalists too.
They're getting paid. We're not
Feck. An election is on.
Deffo the deciding factor.
History.
Way back in 2014 I said that the NHS (in England initially) was being taken down the road of Stealth Privatisation - but that was poo-pooed in many quarters.
velvet donkey posted:Feck. An election is on.
Deffo the deciding factor.
History.
You really think so?
That wasn't correcting, that was voicing a different opinion. Sorry if it came across differently.
Dame Ann.....a while ago we had a slight contretemps over a certain Labour politician about whom I knew very little. Since then I have taken an interest in her various machinations.....and so would like to apologise for my misunderstanding.
the woman is a total shyster ,not nice at all, downright ignorant and rotten right through. You have been proved right and I was wrong in putting the case for the defence 🙄❤️❤️
Fluffy, I like you rest assured. Sorry for that snap. It was wrong.
No worries Velvet.
Kaytee posted:Dame Ann.....a while ago we had a slight contretemps over a certain Labour politician about whom I knew very little. Since then I have taken an interest in her various machinations.....and so would like to apologise for my misunderstanding.
the woman is a total shyster ,not nice at all, downright ignorant and rotten right through. You have been proved right and I was wrong in putting the case for the defence 🙄❤️❤️
Kaytee, it could be about one of six/seven I can't remember which MP it was, although it's nice to hear you have taken the time to check her out. There was no need to apologise though, the MSM present MP's in a total different light to what they are in reality
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Kaytee posted:Dame Ann.....a while ago we had a slight contretemps over a certain Labour politician about whom I knew very little. Since then I have taken an interest in her various machinations.....and so would like to apologise for my misunderstanding.
the woman is a total shyster ,not nice at all, downright ignorant and rotten right through. You have been proved right and I was wrong in putting the case for the defence 🙄❤️❤️
Kaytee, it could be about one of six/seven
I couldn't remember her name for the life of me when I was typing,so excuse the 'me getting out of jail' obfuscation.....it was Jess Philips.....😂😍😍😍😍
Kaytee posted:I couldn't remember her name for the life of me when I was typing,so excuse the 'me getting out of jail' obfuscation.....it was Jess Philips.....😂😍😍😍😍
I was 99% sure it was her, although there's a few others I don't like, although some of them left to join Tinge, then Independents and then Liberals...could be DUP next week 
She's horrid, Murdoch's lapdog and media whore..career politician and certainly in the wrong party
