Sorry but that makes no sense. If someone objects to me breastfeeding and then approaches me with an outsized napkin I don't have to be telepathic to realise what they have in mind.

“Of course we allow breastfeeding at Claridge’s,” a spokeswoman for the hotel said, “We just ask guests to be discreet, that’s all.”

Presumably because she was told it was their policy? Any blaming of this young woman for complying with what she was told to do just reinforces the argument that women are made to feel embarrassed/pressured into not offending others 

I'm not blaming her for feeding her baby, I disagree that she went along with the napkin thing and then complained about it. Why do it in the first place, she hadn't done anything wrong, illegal, etc.?

What's their idea of discreet?

I guess if she'd been stronger then she would have refused Col, but presumably felt pressured?

Mrs Burns was left shocked and humiliated after she was presented with a large starched napkin in order to avoid "causing offence" to other guests when she tried to feed her three-month-old daughter Isadora on Monday.

She burst into tears and immediately wanted to leave but her mother and sister, who had been planning the get-together for three months, coaxed her into staying. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/u...w-mums-stage-4759657

I'm guessing staying home...

Who knows Cos .... And if you're not breast feeding then seemingly you can have however much boobage on show as you fancy. Cheryl and Mel would have been alright in the frocks that they had on last night/ wouldn't have had to cover up with a napkin

 Dress code: Elegant smart casual; no shorts, vests, sportswear, flip flops, ripped jeans or baseball caps.

LOL probably v few, but it does give out a msg to all

I'm can't keep repeating myself, but just this once. She doesn't looked shocked to me. The 'photos look staged. If she was so outraged and had family (which I didn't realise) with her, why not complain and call the papers there and then, which was obviously done eventually anyway? 

She initially complied with the request, she said the waiter was very pleasant and hadn't even noticed that she was breast feeding, even though he was standing in front of her,she attempted to feed her baby under the napkin but quickly gave up as the baby got grumpy.

How would you have reacted in the same situation Col? - with no time to think about it

Who says she was outraged? - I haven't heard that, I thought she just tweeted about it, because it was so daft.

It's been 37 years since I fed my daughter in public and nobody ever objected, but if they had, I'd packed up the baby, the stuff she needed (kitchen sink, etc.) and left. These days everything needs to be made into a big thing. It's not.

That's the power of the internet, all she did was tweet about it.I don't know that leaving would achieve anything, you still have to find a place to feed your baby.

Others became out raged.

Your first posts seemed to be suggesting that some were being too militant about it and now you seem to be blaming the mother for not being militant enough. 

Personally, I'm glad that she stayed and tweeted that picture. She was upset, at first (even though you haven't seen the physical evidence of that), and then decided to publicize the absurd demand with a tweet.

Just packing up and leaving wouldn't have done any good. She had the right to stay and feed her baby.

so in effect what you are actually saying is that she should have gone along with those draconian attitudes or just pissed off with her baby..

as for the pics being posed, I suspect they were as obviously a family member took them and I don't know anyone, preparing for a pic, who doesn't at least try to smile or pose to an extent.. and as for phoning the papers there and then I think I'd be in shock and anger to think ooh hang on I need to find the number of a national newspaper to call them to tell them just how angry I am. . she did the next best thing and tweeted it once she had calmed down.. and IT IS A BIG THING.. it is making mothers who are able to feed their baby's naturally feel bad about doing it.. .that is HUGE!!!!!

I guess I just don't get your attitude at all Cologne. . it strikes me you are for the hide it away brigade as that is how you come across to me..

We're all outraged about something or another. The more we are the little it means. Just a thought.

that is complete and utter rot. .things get changed because of outrage garnering support, not in spite of it..

Women would be second class citizens still if those women yrs ago didn't express their outrage and set the changes in motion.. there would be be black slaves still in the states if people hadn't protested and expressed outrage.. and so on..

You aren't outraged that a breastfeeding mother was asked to cover up?

You don't think that other mothers may be put off trying by stories like this?

You seem more outraged that she didn't do everything you would have done, in the same situation: although, there seems to be some confusion about what you think was the right way to react - phone the papers, or just up and leave?

This is what I mean. Black slaves would not have been liberated by a newspaper article. How can you possibly compare that to a woman feeding her baby quietly in a corner of a hotel restaurant? I completely agree with her, you'll see that if you go through the thread, but I don't agree with the outrage. WTF,  people have different opinions. Let them. Can't we be more liberal?

I'm not arguing with you any longer, I've been clear on this thread.

Women should not be made to feel ashamed of their bodies, especially when they are using them in the way nature intended. Unless people express their outrage, nothing ever changes. How you think it is being 'liberal' to allow this to continue is beyond me! 

I have no idea where I've said anything like that.

I don't think she did call the papers Col, I think she just tweeted something afterwards, that then went viral. I can completely imagine how she may have felt pressured into staying and not making a fuss at the time, quite possibly a much looked forward to family treat that she did't want to spoil? And then maybe later they took a pic about the absurdity of it all? Who knows? Certainly not me, or you and, regardless, going down this line completely detracts from the point that this should never happened in the first place. Tbh I'm not really sure what you're saying or how what you're saying at different points adds up?

I'd have been out there and told the nearest paper about it, we are talking about Claridges after all......These days everything needs to be made into a big thing. It's not. .....I don't agree with the outrage. People have different opinions. Let them. Can't we be more liberal?

but you haven't been clear you've contradicted yourself in one post.. firstly saying you'd shout it to the papers followed by you'd pack up and go home and why make a fuss as outrage doesn't get you anywhere.. . 

Yes my examples of outrage changing things were extreme but they don't lessen the argument and I did add and so on at the end.. which encompasses all those lesser outrage and protests that also changed things for the good

I can't debate with someone who can't make their own mind up even in just one post

Aye that's true enough, Col, the internet has allowed people to be outraged and enabled those outraged people to publish their outrage on line.

I don't think this particular mother was outraged though,probably a bit pissed off and tweeted about it.

You seem to be fairly outraged that she hasn't reacted in a manner that you would have expected of her.

i dont agree with it

im old fashioned

sorry

I have absolutely no big feeling about this. She should feed her baby whenever and wherever she wants and that should be it.

It's not old fashioned, pirate.

It's actually quite a modern taboo.

Christian churches all over the world have old paintings of Jesus being breastfed by his mother. No problem.

*Warning - may contain graphic pictures of children being fed 

https://www.google.co.uk/searc...PAH&ved=0CCcQsAQ

Blood hell Bliz!! we are gonna run out of napkins at this rate!

hey blizz!

not seen you for ages!

hope youer all fine & dandy

and yep im aware my views are outdated

but its the way i was brought up

and the way i feel

but everyone is different

and i cant believe pixie is out!

oh thank you for that. .I'll delete my receding of the results show now, which I was just going to watch after dishing up my dinner..

Bleedin spoilers I HATE THEM.. kinda ruined my night, even more so as I wanted her to win too...  thanks for that 

awww shit

sorry olly

honestly i am

i didnt think

sorry

It's not a spoiler, Pirate - the show's been aired.

yep i thought so cos i was writing & i heard in other room that pixie lott was out-im catholic-i do guilt lol

I haven't read all of the pages since last night, just the first 2. But I will jump in again with my opinion.

The talk equating breastfeeding to bodily functions is rubbish. Food is a requirement not a function.  These women are not changing their child's nappy on the dining table, they are feeding their child at the dining table, you know that place where all of us grown up reasonable people sit and feed ourselves.

And like I said on Twitter, if I was still lactating, I would go in to restaurants and feed everyone's babies to prove a point. It's eating, and nothing else. 

This made me Chuckle on fb a minute ago

I hear breastfeeding mums are being asked to cover up whilst out feeding there baby, here's me covering up whilst feeding Carene to avoid making any one feel awkward......UP YOURS NIGEL FARAGE!!!

Jen I bloody love that.