No, it's Louise's fault Tom's not up. If Louise had nommed him he'd have been up as well.

She did apparently and BB wouldn't allow it - if it had been accepted they'd have all been up except Alex.

He didn't just say 'YES', he said 'in THIS instance,yes'. That's quite different.

I'm not defending Aaron's sulk, but he's not the only one. A lot of the HMs have sulked at some point: Jay went on a two-day strop recently, but BB chose not to show it on the main show...

So Louise thinks it's OK NOT to nom Alex 'cos her birthday's coming up, but IS OK to nom Faye who's birthday is coming up.

First time round Louise nominated Faye and Tom, second time she went for Aaron and Faye....as far as I remember. It was her grasping for reasons that made BB stop the first lot of noms.

Jay's the only one who's said it was Louise's fault, everyone else is going with the official 'lets bash Aaron and say it was all his fault' line.

I know, she made a hash of nomming both times.

I think they wouldn't accept it because she was giving the same grasped for reasons as the first time.

Louise and Faye were on Aaron's left, Faye and Tom were on Louise's left as I recall. So that would fit with the apparent 'nom the two to your left' plan.

I THINK what happened the second time was that some went with the original two to nom and some went with the 'nom the two on your left' which were now different.

All my posts on this subject so far have been without analysing things. Now that I've had time to sit back and consider....

If Aaron and Louise were following the plan the first time, then  Tom or Alex shouldn't have picked Louise in the second noms and Alex or Jay shouln't have nommed Faye.

However if Tom. Faye, Alex' and Jay  nommed the same people they originally should have then Aaron should have nommed Alex and Tom and Louise, Aaron and Tom. Thus BOTH changed their noms the first time.

Aaron supposedly  should have nommed Alex, but switched to Louise would fit with his story of not wanting to put up Alex.

Louise noms Aaron and tries to nom Tom, but BB won't allow it, she only has three others to choose from. As she doesn't want to nom Jay or Alex, she chooses Faye.

So, is the result a case of BB manipulating things to save Jay?

Or was Louise wrong about not being able to nom Tom? Maybe she just needed to give a different reason, not a different person?

And why was she suddenly not wanting to nom Jay or Alex? The original plan was to have them all up. She didn't seem reluctant to have Alex up in her Birthday week then. She didn't seem to be concerned for her beloved B/F then.

And my head's spinning now with thinking of all the permutations, And there's probably a myriad of other possibilities that I haven't even touched on.

I missed last nights BB but have got the gist of what went on I am glad Aaron done his own thing and voted how he would have voted had it been normal nominations why should Jay tell them all how to vote..to save his own skin, he would have hated being up against Aaron on his own,hope Faye goes this week I wanted her to go last week and voted to keep Aaron and Harry in..big mistake.. he has done more damage to Aaron (his best friend) than anything BB throws at him,I am sure they will have him on BBBOTS all week slating Aarron as they want in my opinion Jay to win,I honestly cant see Aaron winning he will get my vote but to me the damage was done when Harry got evicted last week he has done a the real hatchet job on Aaron Sorry Harry fans 

Marge, good to 'see' you 

suzy good to see you to

Can I ask a question?

Why would BB not want Aaron to win?

Why is it any skin of their nose who wins?

Well i've spent a good part of this evening recapping on last nights H/Ls and BBBOTS

A thread on DS made me wonder the h$ll was going on so decided to check it out.....it seems there was more than two rounds of nominations done before BB let them stand...At the very beginning of nominations you can clearly hear them discussing who was to nom who...Aaron says its easy, nominate the two to your left....he then nominates Louise and Faye ( who are both to his left). Louise then nominates Faye and Tom (both to her left). Now it gets weird...because IF you believe the H/Ls show, BB then halted nominations and said they were all to change places, you can clearly hear Tom telling them to remember who they are to nominate, as in, the two who were originally to the left. Tom then has to nominate first AND DOESN'T nominate the two originally to his left. He should have nominated Alex and Jay... he didn't he nominated Faye and someone else, i cant remember. Jaye nominated next and nominated Faye also... she had been nowhere near him.

Anyway, what i'm getting at very slowly is... BB covered something up... as the nominations were taking place it was being twittered....according to their sequence of events there were 5 ( FIVE ) people originally nominating in the first round. It also seems that Louise DID infact nominate Tom and was told she wasn't allowed to...she was virtually forced into nominating Faye as she was told by BB that her reasons for voting tom were not valid and i think going on that she knew any reason for voting Alex would also be not valid....she wouldn't nominate Jay and had already nominated Aaron so Faye was the only one left.

I know i haven't explained it properly but if anyone recorded both shows please take a look..... it took nearly two hours to nominate yet on the BB twitter page 5 had already done it with little over half an hour gone.

Oh and before anyone says its another conspiracy theory by an Aaron fan.... this isn't about Aaron, it's about Ch5 and BB totally editting and cutting whole chunks of the story out. BBBOTS showed a clip last night that didn't in any way relate to what we seen in the H/Ls show. If your Aaron, Jay, Alex or any other hm's supporter it's still worrying.

Bethni, I only saw the HL show and although I was not aware that there were 5 rounds as opposed to the two rounds that the HLs  suggest, my analysis is much the same as what you have said. It's in  the 'Aaron is a hero....' thread, I think. or a similar thread.

Hiya Fluff ...there's a whole thread on it in DS...... i don't know how many rounds there were but if the H/Ls were to be believed they stopped the first round after Louise nominated.... but the BB twitter site had already got up as far as Tom .... then said something along the lines of ...... housemates now recapping their noms for fun and shocks.... then it says Alex next.... but the times don't add up. If the restarted after Louise, then by the times put up on twiiter, they had to again restart after Tom.....it doesn't tally either with what the housemates themselves said on the H/L's show. Either they had been told stick to a scrypt or they were told not to discuss what had happened.... its very strange and i wouldn't have believed it if i hadn't had it taped

Evening all

A dark mood in the house 

Evening Kaytee and all still to arrive.

Back on the rollercoaster  

It's all Aarons fault whatever happens blame him ,saves a lot of trouble. 

Hi everybody

Hiya Kaytee, Syd, Erin and all yet to come

Evening All 

I have never understood that mentality. BB love to stir up controversy to get people picking up the phone but at the end of the day it's irrelevant to them who wins!

When it's over - it's over!

Syd, Velvet and Erin

Hiya Velvet and Ros

My first time in a while...be gentle with me 

Bore off Louise.

Ros,Bethni, Suzy and Soozy

BB are pinning the blame fully on Aaron then!

That doesn't even make sense after watching what i watched

How can BB lie about it so blatently? The ranks were broken before Aaron voted  in the round that was the final one..

KT 

Is it too early in the show to be bored?

In preperation for a mid week eviction I think

Evening all

I don't understand all this nomination stuff... Louise doesn't like Aaron, why did she not nominate him?   Why does aaron  not nominating Faye make it his fault she's up? 

Don't bother answering ... my brain would probably melt...

Basically.. Jay thought there would be safety in numbers then and didn't want to risk ending up in a one on one with aaron, so tried to get them to fix the vote.. is that right?