Was there ever a better s̶e̶a̶n̶ c̶o̶n̶n̶e̶r̶y̶ Bond better than Sean??
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Daniel Craig is to finally hang up his tuxedo following the release of new James Bond movie 'No Time To Die'. After five films and 15 years in the role - overtaking the late great Sir Roger Moore's record as the longest-serving 007 - it is time to find a new actor to drive the Aston Martin cars. But who are the favourites for the blockbuster role?
Sam Heughan
Robert Pattinson
Luke Evans
Dev Patel
Cillian Murphy
Jack Lowden
James Norton
Regé-Jean Page
Tom Hardy
Tom Holland
None of this BAME pandering, Dev Patel - nonsense
Richard Madden or Aiden Turner ... that's right - a white middle class posh boy, as Fleming intended.
I’ve got another 15 years yet …..
Aah David Niven - he would have been great, I liked him
Niven was a great actor but just not sexy enough for Bond 
Didn't realise the original Casino Royale wasn't a bond film El..
And to put some out of their misery:
British bookies like Ladbrokes have Lashanna Lynch at 5/1 to be the next Bond. William Hill recently offered excellent odds of 11/2 for a female James Bond in the next movie, with Vigil star Suranne Jones (9/1) and Lashanna Lynch (10/1) leading the way. That may all quickly change after Broccoli's latest comments.
Broccoli said: "James Bond is a male character.
"I hope that there will be many, many films made with women, for women, by women, about women. I don't think we have to take a male character and have a woman portray him. So yes, I see him as male." 
Phew!
@slimfern posted:Niven was a great actor but just not sexy enough for Bond
Didn't realise the original Casino Royale wasn't a bond film El..
The rights to film the book, which was the first to be published, were owned by a different company to Eon Productions who make the Bond films. The companies couldn't agree to make a film between them. Very troubled production (6 directors and 10 script writers involved, not all credited). Film resulted in a parody and a bit of a mess.
Eon Productions eventually got the rights so were able to make the Daniel Craig version.
@El Loro posted:The rights to film the book, which was the first to be published, were owned by a different company to Eon Productions who make the Bond films. The companies couldn't agree to make a film between them. Very troubled production (6 directors and 10 script writers involved, not all credited). Film resulted in a parody and a bit of a mess.
Eon Productions eventually got the rights so were able to make the Daniel Craig version.
Oh I see...so it was a Bond story.
I don't know about now, but there was always a Bond film on on a bank holiday.....I gave up watching them when Timothy Dalton took over....not seen any since. Besides ...seen one.. pretty much seen them all 
@slimfern posted:
And to put some out of their misery:
British bookies like Ladbrokes have Lashanna Lynch at 5/1 to be the next Bond. William Hill recently offered excellent odds of 11/2 for a female James Bond in the next movie, with Vigil star Suranne Jones (9/1) and Lashanna Lynch (10/1) leading the way. That may all quickly change after Broccoli's latest comments.Broccoli said: "James Bond is a male character.
"I hope that there will be many, many films made with women, for women, by women, about women. I don't think we have to take a male character and have a woman portray him. So yes, I see him as male."
I'm curious as to how the bookies are going to handle bets on Lashanna Lynch: what exactly do they mean by "the next Bond"?
Do they mean "the next actor to play the role of James Bond", or do they mean the next actor to lead the franchise? Even without Broccoli's comments, Lynch clearly isn't going to play "James Bond": her character in the franchise is called "Nomi". However , she is the next "007": not "will be", but - as I understand it - actually is as of the new movie premiered tonight. Between "Spectre" and "No Time to Die", Bond's retired/gone into exile, and Nomi has replaced him as the new 007 agent.
So: if Lynch is going to front a new series of films as Nomi/007, (something that would not contradict Broccoli's comments 
), will the bookies pay out? And if they do, what then happens if another series of films starring a male actor as "James Bond" is then announced to run concurrently? 
@Eugene's Lair posted:I'm curious as to how the bookies are going to handle bets on Lashanna Lynch: what exactly do they mean by "the next Bond"?
Do they mean "the next actor to play the role of James Bond", or do they mean the next actor to lead the franchise? Even without Broccoli's comments, Lynch clearly isn't going to play "James Bond": her character in the franchise is called "Nomi". However , she is the next "007": not "will be", but - as I understand it - actually is as of the new movie premiered tonight. Between "Spectre" and "No Time to Die", Bond's retired/gone into exile, and Nomi has replaced him as the new 007 agent.
So: if Lynch is going to front a new series of films as Nomi/007, (something that would not contradict Broccoli's comments
Haven't a clue! Eugene
But there can only be one 007 surely? ...and that's James Bond.
@slimfern posted:Was there ever a better s̶e̶a̶n̶ c̶o̶n̶n̶e̶r̶y̶ Bond better than Sean??
Sean Connery definitely remains my favourite Bond, although I have to admit that I think Daniel Craig has been really good in the role - to the extent that I'd probably put him as my second favourite Bond...
@Eugene's Lair posted:Sean Connery definitely remains my favourite Bond, although I have to admit that I think Daniel Craig has been really good in the role - to the extent that I'd probably put him as my second favourite Bond...
Yep he's my favourite too and Baz's
My second would be Roger Moore...then Pearce Brosnan, who was rubbish, as was Dalton and not seen any others...
And I refuse to admit it's all about aesthetics 
@slimfern posted:Haven't a clue! Eugene
But there can only be one 007 surely? ...and that's James Bond.
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"007" is just an MI6 codename. In the books, MI6 has a limited number of double-0 agents, and given how dangerous their job is, it seems reasonable to assume the codename would be passed-on to a successor when an agent dies/retires. James Bond has just managed to stay alive a lot longer than the average double-0 agent...
There is a sort-of comparison in real life, where the Chief of the Secret Intelligence Service - and formerly MI6 - is always known as "C" (and not "M" as in the books). The very first Chief, Captain Sir Mansfield Smith-Cumming, signed letters as "C" in green ink, and the name has just stuck...
@slimfern posted:Yep he's my favourite too and Baz's
My second would be Roger Moore...then Pearce Brosnan, who was rubbish, as was Dalton and not seen any others...
And I refuse to admit it's all about aesthetics
Just a bonus, then, eh Slim?
@Eugene's Lair posted:https://www.esquire.com/entert...h-casting-reactions/
"007" is just an MI6 codename. In the books, MI6 has a limited number of double-0 agents, and given how dangerous their job is, it seems reasonable to assume the codename would be passed-on to a successor when an agent dies/retires. James Bond has just managed to stay alive a lot longer than the average double-0 agent...
There is a sort-of comparison in real life, where the Chief of the Secret Intelligence Service - and formerly MI6 - is always known as "C" (and not "M" as in the books). The very first Chief, Captain Sir Mansfield Smith-Cumming, signed letters as "C" in green ink, and the name has just stuck...
That name deserves a position of authority don't you think
I would have thought that the codename died with the agent....just to keep things tidy, if nothing else....can't be any confusions then ?
@Eugene's Lair posted:Just a bonus, then, eh Slim?
Something like that Eugene 
@slimfern posted:Something like that Eugene
To be fair: I've just seen the photos of Lashanna Lynch, Ana de Armas and Phoebe Waller-Bridge at tonight's premiere, and 
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@Eugene's Lair posted:To be fair: I've just seen the photos of Lashanna Lynch, Ana de Armas and Phoebe Waller-Bridge at tonight's premiere, and
Down boy...
During the premiere for Elba's new Netflix movie, The Harder They Fall, the star was asked if he would play the spy and he appeared to rule himself out of the running.
He replied: "No I'm not going to be James Bond."
The frontrunner for the next Bond actor is currently Tom Hardy with 5/2 from Ladbrokes.
He is followed closely by British-Zimbabwean star Regé-Jean Page - best known for Bridgerton - with 3/1.
@slimfern posted:During the premiere for Elba's new Netflix movie, The Harder They Fall, the star was asked if he would play the spy and he appeared to rule himself out of the running.
He replied: "No I'm not going to be James Bond."
The frontrunner for the next Bond actor is currently Tom Hardy with 5/2 from Ladbrokes.
He is followed closely by British-Zimbabwean star Regé-Jean Page - best known for Bridgerton - with 3/1.
Much as I like Idris Elba, I'm happy about this. There has been talk about him playing Bond for years, but my response has generally been "I don't want to see Elba in a Bond movie; I want to see him in a Luther movie!"
(Or better still: a brand new franchise...)
@Eugene's Lair posted:Much as I like Idris Elba, I'm happy about this. There has been talk about him playing Bond for years, but my response has generally been "I don't want to see Elba in a Bond movie; I want to see him in a Luther movie!"
(Or better still: a brand new franchise...)
I've never seen Luther, always thought it had something to do with Lex Luther..... Google just corrected me 
Am I the only one that thinks that maybe Bond has been done to death
Next James Bond: Tom Hardy knocked off top spot by Games of Thrones star
For some time, Tom Hardy has been the favourite to don the tuxedo, but it has all changed.
A Game of Thrones star has now taken Hardy's place at the top of the Bond odds with Ladbrokes, with a staggering 9/4 odds on claiming the role.
Bodyguard star Richard Madden is that actor, who is best known for playing Robb Stark in the HBO series.
His popularity spike may be all thanks to his upcoming Marvel movie, Eternals.
In the blockbuster Madden plays Ikaris, the de facto leader of the alien race.
Just behind him is the fan-favourite Hardy, who is best known for Venom, Inception, and the Batman movie, The Dark Knight Rises.
@Saint posted:I said Richard Madden or Aiden Turner
IIRC, the press started talking about Madden as a future Bond after "Bodyguard", so I'm surprised he hasn't had shorter odds till now.
The only thing I would say is that his role in the MCU via "Eternals" may work against him taking the Bond role, as they might be concerned about conflicting work commitments. Admittedly Daniel Craig was involved in two potential major franchises during his Bond years - "The Golden Compass" and "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" - but neither lasted beyond the first film.
I do think the whole question of who the next Bond will be is dependent on what direction the Producers want to take the films in. As the Craig films eventually formed a self-contained series, they may want to do something very different next...
@Eugene's Lair posted:IIRC, the press started talking about Madden as a future Bond after "Bodyguard", so I'm surprised he hasn't had shorter odds till now.
The only thing I would say is that his role in the MCU via "Eternals" may work against him taking the Bond role, as they might be concerned about conflicting work commitments. Admittedly Daniel Craig was involved in two potential major franchises during his Bond years - "The Golden Compass" and "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" - but neither lasted beyond the first film.
I do think the whole question of who the next Bond will be is dependent on what direction the Producers want to take the films in. As the Craig films eventually formed a self-contained series, they may want to do something very different next...
Recent Bond movies have been very successful so they may wish to freshen things up but I doubt they'll do things significantly different. They've already said Bond will not be a woman. I think they'd be trampling over the history of Bond's story if they did anything too differently - so I don't think a BAME character, female, gay etc would be true to original idea.
@Saint posted:Recent Bond movies have been very successful so they may wish to freshen things up but I doubt they'll do things significantly different. They've already said Bond will not be a woman. I think they'd be trampling over the history of Bond's story if they did anything too differently - so I don't think a BAME character, female, gay etc would be true to original idea.
I wasn't thinking quite in those terms: I was thinking more along the lines of age and how the actor would fit with the planned storylines. E.g. Tom Hardy is already a good few years older than Daniel Craig was when he made "Casino Royale", and Idris Elba (who's been talked about for a long time) is nearly 50...
They probably won't do it for a number of reasons, but something I'd like to see them try is to go back to the historical settings of the books. The Bond films were given contemporary settings right from the start (60s, Cold War, etc.), but the original books were set in the time they were written - about 10 years earlier. The characters would have fought in the war and were trying to adapt to the new world order of opposing the Soviets. In the book "Casino Royale", Bond drives through a France still recovering from the war, and the glamour of the books was aimed at an audience only just recovering from rationing.
Just a thought...
