Please don't send my brother in law back here!
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:
Because we have no codified constitution in this country. No elected government is bound by the actions of a previous one. If the BNP were elected they could take Britain out of any and every international agreement that we are signed up to.
And judging by their anti EU stance that is exactly what they would do.
Ergo no more EU citizens having the same rights here as British people
Then that's what they should write! They're simply playing on the ignorance of their target voters by implying that they could just pass a law to fine companies.
Well yes, but no political party really writes down what they mean do they - or very rarely.
The truth is that Britain is now signed up to so many international treaties and agreements and responsiblilities that any government is severely limited in what it can actually do without breaking them.
Only a party like the BNP or SWP etc would act to remove Britain from these agreements.
That is not an endorsement of them in case anyone thinks it is btw, just a statement of fact.
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
Please don't send my brother in law back here!
I wouldn't worry, you'll be deported like the rest of us
quote:Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:quote:Originally posted by Demantoid:quote:Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
Awwwwh Dermy thats nice of you to say
Thanks PCE, but I don't think I'm being nice, just reasonable!
It boils my blood when BNP types insult the rest of white Britain by assuming we're all in their 'club', or would be if we listened to them.
No, chaps, some of us are NORMAL...
NOTHING get up MY back more than having some hate driven skinheaded cretin raising his arm in a NAZI salute telling ME I dont love my country,
and saying that THEY speak for the working man in this country,
well they DONT speak for ME,
"they salute the foes our fathers fought"
and THEN say they love this country?
they are an INSULT to all the brave men and women who gave their lives so that WE would never have to live under what THEY would now impose on US.
its OUR COUNTRY and there is NO place in the Britian/England I want to live in, for racist hatemongering SCUM like the BNP,
they want their civil war?
well bring it on,
you'd better stick a cushion under the back of your jacket or you back will get sore from all the backslapping you'll get from the rest of the leftie brigade
where are you coming from with all this "leftie brigade" crap...you dont have to be a "leftie" to see how evil the BNP are...just a decent human being
Quite, it's just a defense mechanism...
It's an attempt to say that there are some worse than the BNP out there, as if that somehow absolves them of all wrongdoing.
It doesn't of course, and it's a playground tactic. But then that's the kind of tactics you can expect from them, their sympathisers, and anybody stupid enough to vote for them.
Our friend here says he voted BNP because they are anti-EU.
A vote for UKIP would have had the same effect without supporting a party of more than questionable ethics.
Alas, there are none so blind as those who will not see.
Where I live, the BNP drive around with a big advertising van (you now, a triangle thing on a flat bed) with a union jack on and the slogan; "We say what you're thinking". Oh and they play some tinny music too, sometimes sounds a bit Scottish, but may be Land of Hope and Glory or similar.
I don't believe that they will ever be voted into anything remotely like power and if they were, what a laugh it would be because they've concentrated all their energy on hatred and don't have any real notion of what makes the economy work, how quickly do you think they will remove any immigrant health workers? ... but I digress.
Every time I see that it really makes me feel sick. The area I live in is where Anthony Walker was murdered in 2005 by low-life, ignorant, racist thugs. Why the BNP make me sick is because these are the demographic they appeal to. And everytime their advertising hoarding is paraded through the streets, that demographic is given a little boost of support to carry on using racist language and teaching their children more hate.
Have you watched Billy Brit on you tube? It's amateur crap, (it would be laughable if it wasn't so serious) but it's a message of hate. And this is for the BNP youth.
And Nick Erikson's views on rape have to be read to be believed. The party allegedly sacked him from standing for the London Assembly, but not all of them distanced themselves from his views.
So really, these are the reasons why I'm against the BNP and all that they stand for and why I get frightened to think that many who say they support them, don't really know what they're actually about.
I don't believe that they will ever be voted into anything remotely like power and if they were, what a laugh it would be because they've concentrated all their energy on hatred and don't have any real notion of what makes the economy work, how quickly do you think they will remove any immigrant health workers? ... but I digress.
Every time I see that it really makes me feel sick. The area I live in is where Anthony Walker was murdered in 2005 by low-life, ignorant, racist thugs. Why the BNP make me sick is because these are the demographic they appeal to. And everytime their advertising hoarding is paraded through the streets, that demographic is given a little boost of support to carry on using racist language and teaching their children more hate.
Have you watched Billy Brit on you tube? It's amateur crap, (it would be laughable if it wasn't so serious) but it's a message of hate. And this is for the BNP youth.
And Nick Erikson's views on rape have to be read to be believed. The party allegedly sacked him from standing for the London Assembly, but not all of them distanced themselves from his views.
So really, these are the reasons why I'm against the BNP and all that they stand for and why I get frightened to think that many who say they support them, don't really know what they're actually about.
quote:Originally posted by Dame_Ann_Average:quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
Please don't send my brother in law back here!
I wouldn't worry, you'll be deported like the rest of us
With my background in protesting and anti authoritarian history deportation would be the best I could hope for
quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
From my BNP leaflet:
"British Jobs for British Workers
The BNP would put an end to the flow of cheap migrant labour which is flooding this country and costing us jobs. We would fine companies employing them".
It's labour legally moving across borders within the EU. What feckwits. How could they fine companies?
well for a start they could fine all the companies employing illegal immigrants or legal immigrants at illegal wages.
whist they were doing that and assuming that they were in power in the uk to be able to change laws (which wont ever happen) then they would have pulled us out of the eu so the legal economic migrants would no longer be legal and so they could use those same laws to fine them.
BBBS I wonder whether you really know anything about the BNP
quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Then that's what they should write! They're simply playing on the ignorance of their target voters by implying that they could just pass a law to fine companies.
Well yes, but no political party really writes down what they mean do they - or very rarely.
The truth is that Britain is now signed up to so many international treaties and agreements and responsiblilities that any government is severely limited in what it can actually do without breaking them.
Only a party like the BNP or SWP etc would act to remove Britain from these agreements.
That is not an endorsement of them in case anyone thinks it is btw, just a statement of fact.
They don't write down the rest of the consequences of revoking our treaties for the European Union though. They frame it purely in terms of immigration. I wonder why that is.
quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:quote:Originally posted by Dame_Ann_Average:quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
Please don't send my brother in law back here!
I wouldn't worry, you'll be deported like the rest of us
With my background in protesting and anti authoritarian history deportation would be the best I could hope for
I wouldn't worry Veggie, wherever it'll be better than here if the BNP had any sort of power. We can have a forum knees up
quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:
yeah but seriously what about the hundreds of thousands of Brits who work all over the EU? would they be ordered back home?
or would they be kicked out by their host country cause we were kicking out THEIR countrymen from here,
That's an excellent point that never gets addressed
I'd love to know the BNP's policy on emigration..do they plan to make working abroad illegal ?
I remember reading somewhere once that if we send all the immigrants home and took all the British emigrants back, Britain would be bursting at the seams with people needing homes and signing on the dole. Wonder which subgroup the BNP would start picking on then?
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:
well for a start they could fine all the companies employing illegal immigrants or legal immigrants at illegal wages.
We already fine companies for employing illegal immigrants! The fines are pretty stiff too for small companies. That's why recruitment agencies ask for proof of worker status and why big companies ask for documents like passports and for work permits for foreign nationals as a matter of course.
I dont get it, I am a born and bred Brit, I went away to an EU country to work for a few years is all, but when I came back I had to provide all sorts of PROOF that I was indeed a British national and had the right to live and work in this country,
and that was before I could even sign on!!
so why we are supposed to believe that anybody who wants to, just walks in the the customs desk and they hand him his car his house his mobile phone his pick of the local totty and a big fat cheque
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
They don't write down the rest of the consequences of revoking our treaties for the European Union though. They frame it purely in terms of immigration. I wonder why that is.
We live in an age of soundbite spin doctoring though hun - that's why.
People just hear the 'It's the immigrants fault your life is crap' and then they switch off.
Anyone with a deeper understanding of politics knows that walking away from international agreements is serious stuff.
quote:Originally posted by suzybean:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:
the BNP pray on peoples fears of what MIGHT happen,
you mean like "if you chose to vote for the bnp adolf griffin MIGHT be running the country and shipping everyone out because no one meets his genetic criteria"
because honestly thats they way you come across, we all know the bnp suck BUT we also all know they are not going to get into any position of power, a few councillors here or there is utterly meaningless and in almost every case the ones they did get were defeated at the next opportunity(or resigned).
It's not meaningless though, it's symptomatic of a deeper problem. And for someone who claims to have voted for them as a protest vote, you sure are coming accross as an apologist for the BNP and their racist views BBBS.
i know and for that i really am sorry, it just makes me so mad to see all these supposed democrats shouting down anyone who makes the choice to vote bnp as if it shouldnt be allowed or they have some kind of mental problems, its so blinkered that they think only the views they hold are correct and no one should have a right to disagree with them.
like it or not the bnp have made up many issues that do concern a lot of people so surely the best way is to do something about it before those fears genuine or imagined turn into bnp support as you so rightly say.
as i said i'm not an apologist or supporter of the bnp, i made a personal choice for a specific reason to vote for them in a meaningless election not in support of them but to actually cause the effect my single vote seems to be having judging by the responses i got, i just dont feel that its right to allow what is basically an anti-democratic group on here to spit their(probably valid) bile without a response from someone, if they could simply have accepted that i made a democratic choice then i wouldnt have needed to say half of what i have.
quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:
well for a start they could fine all the companies employing illegal immigrants or legal immigrants at illegal wages.
We already fine companies for employing illegal immigrants! The fines are pretty stiff too for small companies. That's why recruitment agencies ask for proof of worker status and why big companies ask for documents like passports and for work permits for foreign nationals as a matter of course.
I dont get it, I am a born and bred Brit, I went away to an EU country to work for a few years is all, but when I came back I had to provide all sorts of PROOF that I was indeed a British national and had the right to live and work in this country,
and that was before I could even sign on!!
so why we are supposed to believe that anybody who wants to, just walks in the the customs desk and they hand him his car his house his mobile phone his pick of the local totty and a big fat cheque
Well, quite. I regularly challenge people here and have done for years on the various forums like C4 to justify these claims about asylum seekers and immigrants of various types. No-one, that's no-one in all this time, has done so yet. It's mostly bollocks being propagated by Daily Mail and Daily Mirror readers and similars who swallow all the crap those papers write without even thinking about checking the readily available primary data sources. These are the people the BNP are targetting; pepople who are angry and frustrated without really knowing why.
My sisters mate said she voted bnp n when my sister asked why the hell she did that she said fecking polish taking all our jobs 
quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:
fitna for those who want to watch
surely its better to watch it to see what the fuss was about and why all the support.
a very polished piece of propaganda.
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:
well for a start they could fine all the companies employing illegal immigrants or legal immigrants at illegal wages.
We already fine companies for employing illegal immigrants! The fines are pretty stiff too for small companies. That's why recruitment agencies ask for proof of worker status and why big companies ask for documents like passports and for work permits for foreign nationals as a matter of course.
I dont get it, I am a born and bred Brit, I went away to an EU country to work for a few years is all, but when I came back I had to provide all sorts of PROOF that I was indeed a British national and had the right to live and work in this country,
and that was before I could even sign on!!
so why we are supposed to believe that anybody who wants to, just walks in the the customs desk and they hand him his car his house his mobile phone his pick of the local totty and a big fat cheque
Well, quite. I regularly challenge people here and have done for years on the various forums like C4 to justify these claims about asylum seekers and immigrants of various types. No-one, that's no-one in all this time, has done so yet. It's mostly bollocks being propagated by Daily Mail and Daily Mirror readers and similars who swallow all the crap those papers write without even thinking about checking the readily available primary data sources. These are the people the BNP are targetting; pepople who are angry and frustrated without really knowing why.
and yet the uk borders agency keep raiding companies employing illegal immigrants, of course any reputable, law abiding company is going to do the correct paperwork, just as some mp's didnt take the piss with their expenses, but some intentionally break the law.
the impression some seem to have is that 'they' i.e. immigrants are flooding through heathrow every minute of the day, and are escorted to the nearest benefit office where they are given houses and money and anything they fancy. it's total bollocks,utter and complete bullshit.
in my humble opinion...
in my humble opinion...
quote:Originally posted by JacksonB:
the impression some seem to have is that 'they' i.e. immigrants are flooding through heathrow every minute of the day, and are escorted to the nearest benefit office where they are given houses and money and anything they fancy. it's total bollocks,utter and complete bullshit.
in my humble opinion...
you are correct, its bollocks
quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by suzybean:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:
the BNP pray on peoples fears of what MIGHT happen,
you mean like "if you chose to vote for the bnp adolf griffin MIGHT be running the country and shipping everyone out because no one meets his genetic criteria"
because honestly thats they way you come across, we all know the bnp suck BUT we also all know they are not going to get into any position of power, a few councillors here or there is utterly meaningless and in almost every case the ones they did get were defeated at the next opportunity(or resigned).
It's not meaningless though, it's symptomatic of a deeper problem. And for someone who claims to have voted for them as a protest vote, you sure are coming accross as an apologist for the BNP and their racist views BBBS.
i know and for that i really am sorry, it just makes me so mad to see all these supposed democrats shouting down anyone who makes the choice to vote bnp as if it shouldnt be allowed or they have some kind of mental problems, its so blinkered that they think only the views they hold are correct and no one should have a right to disagree with them.
like it or not the bnp have made up many issues that do concern a lot of people so surely the best way is to do something about it before those fears genuine or imagined turn into bnp support as you so rightly say.
as i said i'm not an apologist or supporter of the bnp, i made a personal choice for a specific reason to vote for them in a meaningless election not in support of them but to actually cause the effect my single vote seems to be having judging by the responses i got, i just dont feel that its right to allow what is basically an anti-democratic group on here to spit their(probably valid) bile without a response from someone, if they could simply have accepted that i made a democratic choice then i wouldnt have needed to say half of what i have.
You have the democratic right to vote for whoever the hell you want to, more fool you if you vote for a party like the BNP after all.
You don't have an automatic right of having your reasons for doing so respected. That respect has to be earned, and that's the key difference.
With regards to which political party would be the best for this country...can anyone tell me a time in politcal history when this country has had almost zero unemployment, no war, good realtions with the rest of the world and everyone happy??? Nope...cos no matter which party is in power, it will never happen. I'm 35yrs old and as far as I can see, the tories tried their hardest to ruin the 80's and then labour have splendidly cocked up the country from the late 90's onwards. Neither of the two main parties has a good record and none of the others provide any decent alternative. I am not a supporter of the BNP and never will be, yet I can see why some people feel that they are worth a vote. I think the main parties should heed the warning sent in the Burnley result today, stop the bickering and actually do their jobs. Brown needs to grow some balls and call an election and then the next govt should govern the country as it deserves to be governed....I certainly do not want to see this country run by the BNP, that thought terrifies me. It is up to the other parties to stop arsing around and sort themselves out so that they provide us with the political parties we deserve and WANT to vote for.
I want to know how the BNP are going to fund that ÂĢ15,000 tax free allowance yet still ease the burden on families. I want to know how they are going to freeze Council Tax without losing services too.
quote:Originally posted by MrsB:
It is up to the other parties to stop arsing around and sort themselves out so that they provide us with the political parties we deserve and WANT to vote for.
Or change the system to something different, perhaps with a form of proportional representation.
quote:Originally posted by disley21:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by suzybean:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:
the BNP pray on peoples fears of what MIGHT happen,
you mean like "if you chose to vote for the bnp adolf griffin MIGHT be running the country and shipping everyone out because no one meets his genetic criteria"
because honestly thats they way you come across, we all know the bnp suck BUT we also all know they are not going to get into any position of power, a few councillors here or there is utterly meaningless and in almost every case the ones they did get were defeated at the next opportunity(or resigned).
It's not meaningless though, it's symptomatic of a deeper problem. And for someone who claims to have voted for them as a protest vote, you sure are coming accross as an apologist for the BNP and their racist views BBBS.
i know and for that i really am sorry, it just makes me so mad to see all these supposed democrats shouting down anyone who makes the choice to vote bnp as if it shouldnt be allowed or they have some kind of mental problems, its so blinkered that they think only the views they hold are correct and no one should have a right to disagree with them.
like it or not the bnp have made up many issues that do concern a lot of people so surely the best way is to do something about it before those fears genuine or imagined turn into bnp support as you so rightly say.
as i said i'm not an apologist or supporter of the bnp, i made a personal choice for a specific reason to vote for them in a meaningless election not in support of them but to actually cause the effect my single vote seems to be having judging by the responses i got, i just dont feel that its right to allow what is basically an anti-democratic group on here to spit their(probably valid) bile without a response from someone, if they could simply have accepted that i made a democratic choice then i wouldnt have needed to say half of what i have.
You have the democratic right to vote for whoever the hell you want to, more fool you if you vote for a party like the BNP after all.
You don't have an automatic right of having your reasons for doing so respected. That respect has to be earned, and that's the key difference.
and i mentioned respect where exactly?
i wouldnt expect it, ever, on any matter without earning it, in this case i made a controversial choice but i dont think i deserve "stupid", "knuckle dragging", "idiotic", "imbecile" or any of the other comments directed at me or those like me, maybe you feel thats acceptable?
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by MrsB:
It is up to the other parties to stop arsing around and sort themselves out so that they provide us with the political parties we deserve and WANT to vote for.
Or change the system to something different, perhaps with a form of proportional representation.
which would almost guarantee the bnp seats and part of the balance of power, thats why pr is always such a bad idea.
quote:Originally posted by MrsB:
With regards to which political party would be the best for this country...can anyone tell me a time in politcal history when this country has had almost zero unemployment, no war, good realtions with the rest of the world and everyone happy??? Nope...cos no matter which party is in power, it will never happen. I'm 35yrs old and as far as I can see, the tories tried their hardest to ruin the 80's and then labour have splendidly cocked up the country from the late 90's onwards. Neither of the two main parties has a good record and none of the others provide any decent alternative. I am not a supporter of the BNP and never will be, yet I can see why some people feel that they are worth a vote. I think the main parties should heed the warning sent in the Burnley result today, stop the bickering and actually do their jobs. Brown needs to grow some balls and call an election and then the next govt should govern the country as it deserves to be governed....I certainly do not want to see this country run by the BNP, that thought terrifies me. It is up to the other parties to stop arsing around and sort themselves out so that they provide us with the political parties we deserve and WANT to vote for.
well said
and i think the answer to your question was around 350AD (except relations with scotland)
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by MrsB:
It is up to the other parties to stop arsing around and sort themselves out so that they provide us with the political parties we deserve and WANT to vote for.
Or change the system to something different, perhaps with a form of proportional representation.
Exactly. It's all such a shambles at the moment and their seems to be more bickering and all that than actual governing going on. Maybe if control wasn't in the hands of just one party who could then ride roughshod over us for 4yrs regardless, things may improve.
Well my protest vote for the MEP elections went to the Scottish Greens.
quote:Originally posted by kattymieoww:
Well my protest vote for the MEP elections went to the Scottish Greens.
woulldnt have been my choice but nevertheless a perfectly valid one, any protest vote is better than a spoiled paper or worse yet not bothering to vote.
quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by kattymieoww:
Well my protest vote for the MEP elections went to the Scottish Greens.
woulldnt have been my choice but nevertheless a perfectly valid one, any protest vote is better than a spoiled paper or worse yet not bothering to vote.
Well as you are in Yorkshire I doubt they were standing there.
quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by MrsB:
It is up to the other parties to stop arsing around and sort themselves out so that they provide us with the political parties we deserve and WANT to vote for.
Or change the system to something different, perhaps with a form of proportional representation.
which would almost guarantee the bnp seats and part of the balance of power, thats why pr is always such a bad idea.
Shouldn't you be arguing that people who vote for the BNP ought to have their views represented if they can get enough votes together as we're a democracy? Afterall, you will fight for the right for them to hold their views.
quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by kattymieoww:
Well my protest vote for the MEP elections went to the Scottish Greens.
woulldnt have been my choice but nevertheless a perfectly valid one, any protest vote is better than a spoiled paper or worse yet not bothering to vote.
That bugs me soooo much...people who don't bother to vote and then moan like crazy about how the place is run. I can't imagine not wanting to vote, to have my say.
quote:Originally posted by kattymieoww:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by kattymieoww:
Well my protest vote for the MEP elections went to the Scottish Greens.
woulldnt have been my choice but nevertheless a perfectly valid one, any protest vote is better than a spoiled paper or worse yet not bothering to vote.
Well as you are in Yorkshire I doubt they were standing there.
well no, but we did have some rabbit food munching, eco-terrorist standing instead.
quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by kattymieoww:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by kattymieoww:
Well my protest vote for the MEP elections went to the Scottish Greens.
woulldnt have been my choice but nevertheless a perfectly valid one, any protest vote is better than a spoiled paper or worse yet not bothering to vote.
Well as you are in Yorkshire I doubt they were standing there.
well no, but we did have some rabbit food munching, eco-terrorist standing instead.
Which probably would have been a better choice than racist homophobic thugs
hmmm interesting place......
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/ww2era.htm
read some of it, theres lots there,
an interesting exersise is to replace the word "Jew" etc with "moslem" or Islamist"...and it all sounds a bit familiar.....have a poke around,
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/ww2era.htm
read some of it, theres lots there,
an interesting exersise is to replace the word "Jew" etc with "moslem" or Islamist"...and it all sounds a bit familiar.....have a poke around,
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by MrsB:
It is up to the other parties to stop arsing around and sort themselves out so that they provide us with the political parties we deserve and WANT to vote for.
Or change the system to something different, perhaps with a form of proportional representation.
which would almost guarantee the bnp seats and part of the balance of power, thats why pr is always such a bad idea.
Shouldn't you be arguing that people who vote for the BNP ought to have their views represented if they can get enough votes together as we're a democracy? Afterall, you will fight for the right for them to hold their views.
but i can do that perfectly well under the current system without giving them as a minority with a small vote the chance of holding the balance of power and thus the ability to dictate policies.
as it stands if they get the most votes then yes i would defend their right to express their distasteful views as i would anyone elses.
quote:Originally posted by kattymieoww:
Well my protest vote for the MEP elections went to the Scottish Greens.
Curly Kale?
I wouldn't defend their right to express their views.
quote:Originally posted by fabienne:
I wouldn't defend their right to express their views.
They're expressing their views now, well the more palatable ones anyway, and they're giving many of us the opportunity to take the piss out of them and their supporters for being complete numpties. That's a fair trade. As long as the rest of us are vocal enough and spend time knocking their pseudo-arguments down, they can't win.
quote:Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by kattymieoww:quote:Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:quote:Originally posted by kattymieoww:
Well my protest vote for the MEP elections went to the Scottish Greens.
woulldnt have been my choice but nevertheless a perfectly valid one, any protest vote is better than a spoiled paper or worse yet not bothering to vote.
Well as you are in Yorkshire I doubt they were standing there.
well no, but we did have some rabbit food munching, eco-terrorist standing instead.
Which probably would have been a better choice than racist homophobic thugs
maybe, but it sure as hell wouldnt have provoked the attention from the usual sources would it? if you as a voter feel that way, dear gordon must be shitting bricks about it, who knows, it might do some good, if the bnp do well along with ukip how long will gordon stick to his pro european "ideals" not long i bet unless hes after some cushey (and well paid) eurojob once hes out on his ear, and how about davids "quiet" approach to europe, you dont think a big vote for anti eu parties might not have him running for the soundbites about how the torys have always been the anti eu party but he just forgot to mention it befor..