A lot of misdirected anger here imo...
If the BNP are rising in popularity then imo it is the Govt we've had for the past 12 years to blame. The Tories offer no real oposition since Neu Labour are basically a slightly more right wing version of them.
When people feel they are not being represented by the major partys they will seek some/any alternative. Fertile environment for a party like the BNP to rise.
Edit: For the record I'm not a BNP supporter, I can't stand any politicians tbh, doesn't matter what they promise, at the end of the day they all have nothing more than their own self interest at heart. well that's how I see it anyway.
quote:Originally posted by Abo:I know. And going back to nazi's constantly just shows how much people are living in the past. Look to the future peoplequote:Originally posted by Sheils:quote:Originally posted by electric6:quote:Originally posted by Abo:
No I do not agree with ethnic cleansing or the eradication of those that are deemed less than perfect
The BNP do.
Folks (rightly!) get caught up in the race debate...and that's good. People should be made aware that they (the BNP) are racist and not patriotic...but their disgusting views on other matters are usually overshadowed.
It's best to get the bigger picture
Glad to hear you disagree with them on that.
SAME OLD................racist's, racist's...try another record its getting boring now.
you will be singing the future belongs to us next,(usualy accompanied by a military band and lots of goose stepping)
if we dont learn from the past we are doomed to make the same mistakes again,
quote:Originally posted by electric6:quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:
Oooh Leccy - I know this is neither the time nor the place, but I've just downloaded the Manics new album
Innit aces!?
Nicky can't sing for toffee, but I thought it was nice for him to do that for his mate. I know it's gonna become a classic after a few squillion listens (the album, not Nicky's singing!)
Yeah, still on it's first airing, but I'll persevere
quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:
Er... message to you, previous page
*sigh* I love it when folks take a firm hand with me
quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:
now then I wouldnt like the BNP supporters on here to feel ganged up on, I WANT them to engage in debate with those of us who dont like the BNP and anything they stand for,
cause they (the BNP) love to feel their freedoms are being denied, ironic I know.
oh and WHY do SOME people justify their support by saying "look at the mess the present lot have got us into?" talk about frying pans n fires,
yeah the present lot have messed up so lets start rounding people up and "deporting" them,
and if that fails we will build nice little "holliday" camps for em, and that will make EVERYTHING nice and lovely again...ya know, like it used to be back in ......erm.......er....
Old hippie, im sure glad you are not a politician...wow
quote:Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
A lot of misdirected anger here imo...
If the BNP are rising in popularity then imo it is the Govt we've had for the past 12 years to blame. The Tories offer no real oposition since Neu Labour are basically a slightly more right wing version of them.
When people feel they are not being represented by the major partys they will seek some/any alternative. Fertile environment for a party like the BNP to rise.
I don't think you'll get anyone disagreeing with your view, it's the BNP and what they actually stand for that people are discussing and rightly getting heated about.
quote:Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
A lot of misdirected anger here imo...
If the BNP are rising in popularity then imo it is the Govt we've had for the past 12 years to blame. The Tories offer no real oposition since Neu Labour are basically a slightly more right wing version of them.
When people feel they are not being represented by the major partys they will seek some/any alternative. Fertile environment for a party like the BNP to rise.
which is EXACTLY what happened in Germany in the 1920s n 30s, which is why they should be fought at every oppertunity,
"rejoice not that the bastard is dead for the bitch who bore him is in heat again"
dunno who it was said that but it was spot on,
Anyways, nite nite peoples, catch you soon. xx
quote:"rejoice not that the bastard is dead for the bitch who bore him is in heat again"
Nivvor heard that afore in me life. LUVVIT!
quote:Originally posted by Sheils:quote:Originally posted by Soozy woo:
Al I've asked is why you want to vote for them? In all honesty I'm intrigued ...........as they appear to be gaining in popularity it would be interesting if someone actually spoke out about what attracts them.
Not being funny in any way but .............could it be that once it's put down in words it does seem to be irrational, racist and driven by hate?
Sorry but that is my business the reasons why i vote for a certain party, but perhaps if you read the news about the other parties then you may realise why the BNP are becoming more popular.
I only asked ................can you not say?
well ive no interest in debating about racists so i shall just say from the heart....
quote:Originally posted by electric6:quote:"rejoice not that the bastard is dead for the bitch who bore him is in heat again"
Nivvor heard that afore in me life. LUVVIT!
wish I could remember who said it, I know it comes up at the end of a film "Iron Cross" about the germans in russia, saw it years ago, but its truer now than ever before,
quote:Originally posted by Gypsie:
well ive no interest in debating about racists so i shall just say from the heart....
You shall have my first born dinkey
quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:quote:Originally posted by electric6:quote:"rejoice not that the bastard is dead for the bitch who bore him is in heat again"
Nivvor heard that afore in me life. LUVVIT!
wish I could remember who said it, I know it comes up at the end of a film "Iron Cross" about the germans in russia, saw it years ago, but its truer now than ever before,
hehe GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND, got it
âDo not rejoice in his defeat, you men.
For though the bastard is dead, the bitch that bore him is again in heat.â
Bertolt Brecht
quote:Originally posted by electric6:quote:Originally posted by Gypsie:
well ive no interest in debating about racists so i shall just say from the heart....
You shall have my first born dinkey
YAYYYY
i could want for nothing more 
Zwartboek I think it wasquote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:quote:Originally posted by electric6:quote:"rejoice not that the bastard is dead for the bitch who bore him is in heat again"
Nivvor heard that afore in me life. LUVVIT!
wish I could remember who said it, I know it comes up at the end of a film "Iron Cross" about the germans in russia, saw it years ago, but its truer now than ever before,
actually no it was coss of iron. Brill moviequote:Originally posted by Abo:Zwartboek I think it wasquote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:quote:Originally posted by electric6:quote:"rejoice not that the bastard is dead for the bitch who bore him is in heat again"
Nivvor heard that afore in me life. LUVVIT!
wish I could remember who said it, I know it comes up at the end of a film "Iron Cross" about the germans in russia, saw it years ago, but its truer now than ever before,
anyway, enough of putting the world to rights
I have a ps3 and some american teenagers are about to get "owned" on call of duty 4
I have a ps3 and some american teenagers are about to get "owned" on call of duty 4
quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:
which is EXACTLY what happened in Germany in the 1920s n 30s, which is why they should be fought at every oppertunity,
"rejoice not that the bastard is dead for the bitch who bore him is in heat again"
dunno who it was said that but it was spot on,
I agree with you but I think the nazi ideology has to be fought on more than one front. The current Govts obsession with getting us all onto a central database and carry I.D. papers (for example) really couldn't be more nazi.
T'ra OHG and love to your lovely lady xx
quote:Originally posted by electric6:quote:"rejoice not that the bastard is dead for the bitch who bore him is in heat again"
Nivvor heard that afore in me life. LUVVIT!
Its a horrible, nasty, meaningless statement.
quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:quote:Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
A lot of misdirected anger here imo...
If the BNP are rising in popularity then imo it is the Govt we've had for the past 12 years to blame. The Tories offer no real oposition since Neu Labour are basically a slightly more right wing version of them.
When people feel they are not being represented by the major partys they will seek some/any alternative. Fertile environment for a party like the BNP to rise.
which is EXACTLY what happened in Germany in the 1920s n 30s, which is why they should be fought at every oppertunity,
"rejoice not that the bastard is dead for the bitch who bore him is in heat again"
dunno who it was said that but it was spot on,
It was Brecht that said that, a brilliant playwright in my opinion.
quote:Originally posted by paace:
Its a horrible, nasty, meaningless statement.
Stand alone, mis-directed, yes I could see it would be.
In context (as it was) Nah. It's
quote:Originally posted by electric6:quote:Originally posted by paace:
Its a horrible, nasty, meaningless statement.
Stand alone, mis-directed, yes I could see it would be.
In context (as it was) Nah. It's
I don't know the context but I can't see any in which its okay. A mother is not totally responsible how her children turn out, and no two children are the same.
quote:Originally posted by paace:
I don't know the context but I can't see any in which its okay. A mother is not totally responsible how her children turn out, and no two children are the same.
It's about ideologies, not mothers.
quote:Originally posted by paace:
I don't know the context but I can't see any in which its okay. A mother is not totally responsible how her children turn out, and no two children are the same.
The context was all important,it had nowt to do with actual mothers...(as in female parents)
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by paace:
I don't know the context but I can't see any in which its okay. A mother is not totally responsible how her children turn out, and no two children are the same.
It's about ideologies, not mothers.
What Blizzie said ^^^ (but better than me
)I was away on another thread.
quote:Originally posted by electric6:quote:Originally posted by paace:
I don't know the context but I can't see any in which its okay. A mother is not totally responsible how her children turn out, and no two children are the same.
The context was all important,it had nowt to do with actual mothers...(as in female parents)
Thanks Blizzie and leccy. Standing alone its meaningless.
quote:Originally posted by paace:quote:Originally posted by electric6:quote:Originally posted by paace:
I don't know the context but I can't see any in which its okay. A mother is not totally responsible how her children turn out, and no two children are the same.
The context was all important,it had nowt to do with actual mothers...(as in female parents)
Thanks Blizzie and leccy. Standing alone its meaningless.
I think Blizzie is one of the wisest people on this forum.
quote:Originally posted by electric6:quote:Originally posted by Abo:
I think actually that those that Hitler mentions in his eugenics criteria is what most political parties are made up of including the BNP. And come to think of it most of society without be too general.
I have no idea what you are on about there
Do you agree with/support/sympathise with eugenics (in a general sense) and/or specifically with the Nazi criteria?
Simple question.
As an aisde, Nazi Germany wasn't the only country interested in Eugenics. I think it developed in Sweden as a social policy in the 19th century and was used right up to ~1975. Sweden steralised epileptics, the mentally disabled, and even people with 'social problems' in order to strengthen their race. They're not proud of it now and it's a very touchy subject over there.
quote:Originally posted by Essex Angel:
I think Blizzie is one of the wisest people on this forum.
Me2.
Wise and witty.
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by electric6:quote:Originally posted by Abo:
I think actually that those that Hitler mentions in his eugenics criteria is what most political parties are made up of including the BNP. And come to think of it most of society without be too general.
I have no idea what you are on about there
Do you agree with/support/sympathise with eugenics (in a general sense) and/or specifically with the Nazi criteria?
Simple question.
As an aisde, Nazi Germany wasn't the only country interested in Eugenics. I think it developed in Sweden as a social policy in the 19th century and was used right up to ~1975. Sweden steralised epileptics, the mentally disabled, and even people with 'social problems' in order to strengthen their race. They're not proud of it now and it's a very touchy subject over there.
Yeah, but look at Abba
quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddyostrich:
Yeah, but look at Abba
Don't dis da Abba.
quote:Originally posted by Irish-Princess:
The Queen would probably get on with him like a house on fire given that the Royals are one of the most sectarian and bigoted outfits in the world.
Sorry but what tosh.
quote:Originally posted by Abo:I know. And going back to nazi's constantly just shows how much people are living in the past. Look to the future peoplequote:Originally posted by Sheils:quote:Originally posted by electric6:quote:Originally posted by Abo:
No I do not agree with ethnic cleansing or the eradication of those that are deemed less than perfect
The BNP do.
Folks (rightly!) get caught up in the race debate...and that's good. People should be made aware that they (the BNP) are racist and not patriotic...but their disgusting views on other matters are usually overshadowed.
It's best to get the bigger picture
Glad to hear you disagree with them on that.
SAME OLD................racist's, racist's...try another record its getting boring now.
That's exactly what Ernst Roehm said, and look what happened to him.
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by Essex Angel:
I think Blizzie is one of the wisest people on this forum.
Me2.
Wise and witty.
Stop it, you two.
This is a serious subject!
there are seriously BNP supporters on this forum? hahahahahahhahhahhahahah
fools.
fools.
But jononono did you like my special smiley
ooh I never saw it I am too scared to look back at the nutters.
Though I am laughing at 'let's not look at the past' ha ha. Does that mean all the asylum seekers can stay then as they moved in a while back?? Glad to hear the BNP supporters are so good at accepting change and moving on!
Though I am laughing at 'let's not look at the past' ha ha. Does that mean all the asylum seekers can stay then as they moved in a while back?? Glad to hear the BNP supporters are so good at accepting change and moving on!