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Originally posted by CharliesPlace:
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Originally posted by watchinittoomuch:
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Originally posted by CharliesPlace:
Ok what about this.


Alex was shown to be a right nasty cow (agree Confused)

So whoever selected her must have thought, right this is one nasty cow, lets put her in big brother, show her to be a right nasty cow, and see where that goes, maybe i'm being a bit niave here, but considering what happened with jade the year before, and the fact that alex was black, do you think they woul;d take the risk of more flak !

Have i wondered from the point ! i don't know, maybe i'm just showing anohter side to my personality, like we do, i have always thought that all sides of a persons personality are explored on the h/l reel and the general points of any argument opr discussion and the way people acted in any argument or discussion usually comes across as it happens.

Just to add as well, that even with live feed we still don't get the full story, because anything the producers think they could use on the show will be sound dipped to hell during the live feed.

So live feed doesn't really come into play on the big issues, more on the little issues like "does makosi wash her knickers everyday"


The only reason Alex was put in the house was for column inches, as Charley the year before caused such an uproar, created publicity for the programme, and therefore publicity equals money. Big Brother and Endemol are such a huge money making machine, and that, ultimately, is the reason behind the choice of any of the housemates....coupled with trying to keep OFCOM happy of course Wink

And yes, Alex was shown to be a right nasty cow, but this wasnt unfair editing, as she was shown to be a right nasty cow on the LF aswell...there are some aspects any amount of editing cant hide Wink

I agree that over time the LF has been diluted aswell, but it's still paramount in importance to a better rounded view of what we see. Conversations that may seem innocuous in comparison to a massive argument, are very important to the viewers insight into a housemate...they talk about everything, from politics to love, their lives to what books they like....and as far as I am concerned, its the little things aswell that help form what I truely think of someone, not just how they react in an argument, if they dont care about getting their boobs out, or if they can spear sweetcorn on the end of a toothpick.


Rachel being an example...she was shown on the LF as being a fence sitter and someone who avoided conflict, when in actual fact she was very witty at times and didnt NEED to blow up at someone to let them know they were out of line....alot of this would have been missed by the general viewer of course, because it didnt fit in.

Same with Darnell and the Aussie girl (cant remember her name Red Face ) they had a complicated relationship, but Im sure many people didnt realise just how compicated it was...



So would i be correct in assuming that what you are saying is, some people can make up thier own minds about housemates, and some people can't..which is my point in this, you only get swayed by the editing if you allow yourself to be led by others.


which is exactly what we'll be doing without the LF....'others' being the producers and editors Razzer
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Originally posted by CharliesPlace:

rachels "oh well" comment is how you percieved it to come across, whereas many others may have seen it differently.


The point is, people who watched it live saw her listening and being empathetic towards Mo, but those who saw it on the HL show, saw it as cold hearted.

I'm not expecting them to show the whole thing, but that can't have been anything but a deliberate attempt to portray her in an unsympathetic light.
Blizz'ard
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Originally posted by CharliesPlace:
I still stand by the fact that you are only swayed by the editing if you let it sway you, and that what some find good others will find bad. Razzer


You're missing the point though....without the LF no one will know if they are being swayed or not will they, so will hold back as they dont trust what they see..
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Originally posted by watchinittoomuch:
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Originally posted by CharliesPlace:
I still stand by the fact that you are only swayed by the editing if you let it sway you, and that what some find good others will find bad. Razzer


You're missing the point though....without the LF no one will know if they are being swayed or not will they, so will hold back as they dont trust what they see..


never let the facts get in the way during a forum argument about big brother. Shake Head


When you say hold back do you mean voting ?

i think voting is over rated, i prefer to sit and hope rather than try and influence anything.
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Originally posted by CharliesPlace:
I still stand by the fact that you are only swayed by the editing if you let it sway you, and that what some find good others will find bad. Razzer

But without LF how do you know if you are being swayed or not??? How do we know if what we are seeing is 100% exactly was happened. How do we know if the opinions we have formed have been manipulated???

Im dizzy now.
Sexy_Kelly
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Originally posted by Sexy_Kelly:
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Originally posted by CharliesPlace:
I still stand by the fact that you are only swayed by the editing if you let it sway you, and that what some find good others will find bad. Razzer

But without LF how do you know if you are being swayed or not??? How do we know if what we are seeing is 100% exactly was happened. How do we know if the opinions we have formed have been manipulated???

Im dizzy now.



Thats the beauty of it, we won't know. Smiler


Can i spank you now ?
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Originally posted by CharliesPlace:
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Originally posted by watchinittoomuch:
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Originally posted by CharliesPlace:
I still stand by the fact that you are only swayed by the editing if you let it sway you, and that what some find good others will find bad. Razzer


You're missing the point though....without the LF no one will know if they are being swayed or not will they, so will hold back as they dont trust what they see..


never let the facts get in the way during a forum argument about big brother. Shake Head


When you say hold back do you mean voting ?

i think voting is over rated, i prefer to sit and hope rather than try and influence anything.


No I mean people will hold back when throwing their support behind a housemate...no biggie out there in rL---->...a big deal when you're threatening to skin someone during a row on a BB forum tho Big Grin
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Originally posted by watchinittoomuch:
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Originally posted by CharliesPlace:
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Originally posted by watchinittoomuch:
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Originally posted by CharliesPlace:
I still stand by the fact that you are only swayed by the editing if you let it sway you, and that what some find good others will find bad. Razzer


You're missing the point though....without the LF no one will know if they are being swayed or not will they, so will hold back as they dont trust what they see..


never let the facts get in the way during a forum argument about big brother. Shake Head


When you say hold back do you mean voting ?

i think voting is over rated, i prefer to sit and hope rather than try and influence anything.


No I mean people will hold back when throwing their support behind a housemate...no biggie out there in rL---->...a big deal when you're threatening to skin someone during a row on a BB forum tho Big Grin



Laugh It will aid some and hinder others, i'm happy with my lot. Thumbs Up

But it is a shame that there is no live feed, that is a fact. Do you think there will be some live feed on c4 through the night ?
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Originally posted by CharliesPlace:
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Originally posted by Sexy_Kelly:
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Originally posted by CharliesPlace:
I still stand by the fact that you are only swayed by the editing if you let it sway you, and that what some find good others will find bad. Razzer

But without LF how do you know if you are being swayed or not??? How do we know if what we are seeing is 100% exactly was happened. How do we know if the opinions we have formed have been manipulated???
Im dizzy now.

Thats the beauty of it, we won't know. Smiler
Can i spank you now ?

*pulls down pants and bends over*
Sexy_Kelly
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Originally posted by Blizzie:
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Originally posted by CharliesPlace:
Do you think there will be some live feed on c4 through the night ?


Yes, I will be voting for the best snorer. Glance



Maybe if the rumours about there only being housemates with ages from 18-23 are true, we might have some night owls this year.As there will be no need for them to be up at 10 o clock each day, so perhaps the main action will be in through the night. Glance
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Originally posted by Sexy_Kelly:
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Originally posted by CharliesPlace:
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Originally posted by Sexy_Kelly:
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Originally posted by CharliesPlace:
I still stand by the fact that you are only swayed by the editing if you let it sway you, and that what some find good others will find bad. Razzer

But without LF how do you know if you are being swayed or not??? How do we know if what we are seeing is 100% exactly was happened. How do we know if the opinions we have formed have been manipulated???
Im dizzy now.

Thats the beauty of it, we won't know. Smiler
Can i spank you now ?

*pulls down pants and bends over*




awww, let me pull them down, thats half the fun. Blush
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Originally posted by CharliesPlace:
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Originally posted by Sexy_Kelly:
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Originally posted by CharliesPlace:
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Originally posted by Sexy_Kelly:
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Originally posted by CharliesPlace:
I still stand by the fact that you are only swayed by the editing if you let it sway you, and that what some find good others will find bad. Razzer

But without LF how do you know if you are being swayed or not??? How do we know if what we are seeing is 100% exactly was happened. How do we know if the opinions we have formed have been manipulated???
Im dizzy now.

Thats the beauty of it, we won't know. Smiler
Can i spank you now ?

*pulls down pants and bends over*

awww, let me pull them down, thats half the fun. Blush

*pulls pants back up and bends over Charlies knee*
Sexy_Kelly
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Originally posted by Poker Face:
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Originally posted by CharliesPlace:
I am really sorry but if you can't even tell that it's the producers of a show that decide what goes out then it aint even worth debating really ducky. Smiler


And now you are just being pedantic .... editor / producer .... you know what I mean Ducky! Razzer



I do now, but i have forgotten what your original statement was, was it to do with people being unable to make thier own minds up about what they watch ?
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