christopher shut up
What !! Like you are talking about them Hell-on 
Two faced cow.
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Why are Helen and Winston bickering?
no idea...editing is shit,....well it all is
Originally Posted by prettycocoaeyes:
Winston will be nominated this week.
Looks like he might get Helen's vote.
Winston has his opinion and it differs from Helen's so Winston must be wrong .
Why can't Christopher not speak to his mates about what has happened between himself and Mark ?
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Why are Helen and Winston bickering?
Winston disagreed with her.....simples!
Originally Posted by Amythist:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Why are Helen and Winston bickering?
no idea...editing is shit,....well it all is
Good point.
I'm glad Christopher aint my friend
Originally Posted by Kaytee:
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Kaytee:
Maybe she needed straightening out....if so it didn't work
Well that's true enough!
My daughter was the teen from hell....convent boarding schools went through my mind more than once, but like all teens the time passed and she turned into a credit to us both, I would never have put her into care though, but then she didn't move in with a bf at 16 and had far too much sense than to get pregnant
had much the same experience within my own family Kaytee.... hate to think what would have happened if the parents involved had stopped trying.
Originally Posted by Syd:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Why are Helen and Winston bickering?
Winston disagreed with her.....simples!
Silly boy, does he have a death wish?
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by prettycocoaeyes:
Winston will be nominated this week.
Looks like he might get Helen's vote.
She will get Ash and Mark to nominate him.
Originally Posted by Baz:
I don't think it actually matters if she is a prostitute .....she's a very nasty person , that's why she gets my grrrrrrr
Ditto.
Goodnight all
Goodnight all.
Originally Posted by Baz:
Yet there's loads of young girls out that have had far worse starts in life, who've also had teenage pregnancies and bringing up babies who DON'T turn to prostitution or sell stories to rags. She had a better start than most, she has said herself she ut her family through hell, God knows what she was like during the terrible teens.
Exactly Bethni 
You mean because they were a middle class family
Don't think that can be said, who knows what life was like behind their closed doors and the mask of the 'respectable middle class family'
Don't know about her mum but she certainly didn't appear to have had any support from her father when she 'went off the rails' as so many teenagers do.
Night all, that was a teal boring show
Thank **** that is over, I'll not get that time back again. What an absolute waste of my time. This show never fails to surprise me in it's banality.
Good night folks, I'm offski to play with my telly box
And this forum is far too coggy to even attempt to post tonight.
Well cogs aside, another pleasant evening in good company Thank you all, til tomorrow
Well that was....
goodnight
I'm warming to Winston for the first time
So you're happy to hop into bed with someone that is Fake then Christopher?
Both massive players conducting a fauxmance imo.
Winston is clearly trying to wind Helen up, disagreeing with her for the sake of it.
g'night allAnd it's goodnight from me....xxx
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Baz:
Yet there's loads of young girls out that have had far worse starts in life, who've also had teenage pregnancies and bringing up babies who DON'T turn to prostitution or sell stories to rags. She had a better start than most, she has said herself she ut her family through hell, God knows what she was like during the terrible teens.
Exactly Bethni
You mean because they were a middle class family Don't think that can be said, who knows what life was like behind their closed doors and the mask of the 'respectable middle class family'
Don't know about her mum but she certainly didn't appear to have had much support from her father when she 'went off the rails' as so many teenagers do.
I think the point being made is that lots of girls get a worse start than Helen, and don't turn out like she has .....
Originally Posted by Baz:
I don't think it actually matters if she is a prostitute .....she's a very nasty person , that's why she gets my grrrrrrr
and me ,her 'job' is not my concern .
Her vile nasty aggressive behaviour is why I hate her .
The Matt argument that resulted in her 15th warning should have seen her removed imo.
Helen rules that house and every Hm that has been evicted has confirmed that ,the 'experts' on the panel of BBBOTS have all also said the same ...we can't all be wrong .Journey my arse.
Originally Posted by Kaytee:
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Kaytee:
Maybe she needed straightening out....if so it didn't work
Well that's true enough!
My daughter was the teen from hell....convent boarding schools went through my mind more than once, but like all teens the time passed and she turned into a credit to us both, I would never have put her into care though, but then she didn't move in with a bf at 16 and had far too much sense than to get pregnant
She didn't move in with her bf Kaytee, she ran away from home to her friends, was put into foster care and when pregnant, was moved
Originally Posted by Baz:
Nite nite everyone
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Baz:
Yet there's loads of young girls out that have had far worse starts in life, who've also had teenage pregnancies and bringing up babies who DON'T turn to prostitution or sell stories to rags. She had a better start than most, she has said herself she ut her family through hell, God knows what she was like during the terrible teens.
Exactly Bethni
You mean because they were a middle class family Don't think that can be said, who knows what life was like behind their closed doors and the mask of the 'respectable middle class family'
Don't know about her mum but she certainly didn't appear to have had any support from her father when she 'went off the rails' as so many teenagers do.
I was meaning children who have been abused, neglected, starved, not sent to school because their parents couldn't be bothered getting up to send them, never had holidays, second hand clothes that didn't fit..... the list could go on. She seems to be relatively well educated, certainly not thick.... and she chose the lifestyle she did, she wasn't dealt it.
night everybody
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Maybe she was just born evil and they were right to wash their hands of her. I just find it difficult to accept that, that's all.
Seems that what some of her haters think that. Whilst not condoning her behaviour, I'm interested in how someone should turn out like that. Plenty of us have been/had teenagers from hell but weren't disowned by their parents. Hell my older sister, (private school/ convent educated) was an absolute nightmare and got pregnant when she was 16, she put my parents through hell and back, but they supported her and the baby, both emotionally and financially
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Maybe she was just born evil and they were right to wash their hands of her. I just find it difficult to accept that, that's all.
Seems that what some of her haters think that. Whilst not condoning her behaviour, I'm interested in how someone should turn out like that. Plenty of us have been/had teenagers from hell but weren't disowned by their parents. Hell my older sister, (private school/ convent educated) was an absolute nightmare and got pregnant when she was 16, she put my parents through hell and back, but they supported her and the baby, both emotionally and financially
Nature v Nurture ? I tend to think a bit of both .....
Originally Posted by Baz:
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
So, a friends parent contacted SS who put her into care?
SS can't and don't just 'put' kids into care, the parents must have refused to have her back
I think you will find that they will , if they feel the child is out of control ...
Baz they can't put a child into care without either parental consent or a court (Care) order and believe me that won't happen in those circumstances these days, (used to many years ago) Trust me, I've worked in this field for 30 odd years
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Baz:
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
So, a friends parent contacted SS who put her into care?
SS can't and don't just 'put' kids into care, the parents must have refused to have her back
I think you will find that they will , if they feel the child is out of control ...
Oh yes they can and do.
Oh no they can't and don't
Not for a lot of years
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Baz:
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
So, a friends parent contacted SS who put her into care?
SS can't and don't just 'put' kids into care, the parents must have refused to have her back
I think you will find that they will , if they feel the child is out of control ...
Baz they can't put a child into care without either parental consent or a court (Care) order and believe me that won't happen in those circumstances these days, (used to many years ago) Trust me, I've worked in this field for 30 odd years
Oh ok ....
Originally Posted by Baz:
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Baz:
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
So, a friends parent contacted SS who put her into care?
SS can't and don't just 'put' kids into care, the parents must have refused to have her back
I think you will find that they will , if they feel the child is out of control ...
Baz they can't put a child into care without either parental consent or a court (Care) order and believe me that won't happen in those circumstances these days, (used to many years ago) Trust me, I've worked in this field for 30 odd years
Oh ok ....
A parent wouldn't need to consent if a court order was issued or a place of safety order - or is that just in Scotland? So in Helen's case, perhaps her parents didn't refuse to have her back in the house as you suggested in an earlier post, and SS applied for a court order?