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Originally Posted by Bethni:
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Saint:

"Every girl's a slut to the right man" !!!! 

 Good job it'll never be you....and there's where, with 30 plus years of experience of working in child protection you give me the creeps

Supes, Saint was quoting Marlon....and indicating his DISSAPointment in him.

Yep  He was quoting the conversation Marlon and Ash had. I took the emoticon to mean Saint was as disgusted as we all are.

I can wait for the apology which I'm sure is coming

Saint

* dons Kevlar vest and wades in * While in no way agreeing with calling women the sort of names being bandied about here, as one of a small minority who ended up supporting Denise when she was in the House , i do seem to remember there weren't only un gentlemanly things said at the time , but also, if memory serves me well, quite a few unladylike remarks too  

Baz
Originally Posted by Saint:

I can wait for the apology which I'm sure is coming

Whilst you may have been quoting Marlon, I read it as you being surprised that he'd said what he thought out loud rather than being disappointed or disgusted at what he said. Hence your  rather than a or a  Let's face it, it is typical of the kind of remark you make frequently on here, and, when challenged, repeatedly say that you don't mean to offend/are only having a laugh. Yet no matter how many times you are told by people that they do find such comments offensive and misogynistic, you continue.

FM
Originally Posted by Baz:

* dons Kevlar vest and wades in * While in no way agreeing with calling women the sort of names being bandied about here, as one of a small minority who ended up supporting Denise when she was in the House , i do seem to remember there weren't only un gentlemanly things said at the time , but also, if memory serves me well, quite a few unladylike remarks too  

Some people might suggest that Denise's behaviour is very far from ladylike.

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Baz:

* dons Kevlar vest and wades in * While in no way agreeing with calling women the sort of names being bandied about here, as one of a small minority who ended up supporting Denise when she was in the House , i do seem to remember there weren't only un gentlemanly things said at the time , but also, if memory serves me well, quite a few unladylike remarks too  

Some people might suggest that Denise's behaviour is very far from ladylike.

* flashes boobettes at Yogi*  

Baz
Originally Posted by Baz:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Baz:

* dons Kevlar vest and wades in * While in no way agreeing with calling women the sort of names being bandied about here, as one of a small minority who ended up supporting Denise when she was in the House , i do seem to remember there weren't only un gentlemanly things said at the time , but also, if memory serves me well, quite a few unladylike remarks too  

Some people might suggest that Denise's behaviour is very far from ladylike.

* flashes boobettes at Yogi*  

 *faints* 

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Baz:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Baz:

* dons Kevlar vest and wades in * While in no way agreeing with calling women the sort of names being bandied about here, as one of a small minority who ended up supporting Denise when she was in the House , i do seem to remember there weren't only un gentlemanly things said at the time , but also, if memory serves me well, quite a few unladylike remarks too  

Some people might suggest that Denise's behaviour is very far from ladylike.

* flashes boobettes at Yogi*  

 *faints* 

Baz
 

Flippin' Denise Slag Bag Welch

 

 

"Every girl's a slut to the right man" !!!! 

If we are going to get annoyed with each other because our opinions differ then let's just take a few minutes to disect this using the two quotes on hand.

Let us ignore for the moment who said which quote and our personal opinions of them and just look at the quotes.

 

As I see it, the first quote is a personal opinion of ONE specific female.

The second quote however is a slur on ALL females in general, thus deserving of disgust from all, even those who may use undignified language when refering to specific persons.

 

 

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
 

Flippin' Denise Slag Bag Welch

 

 

"Every girl's a slut to the right man" !!!! 

If we are going to get annoyed with each other because our opinions differ then let's just take a few minutes to disect this using the two quotes on hand.

Let us ignore for the moment who said which quote and our personal opinions of them and just look at the quotes.

 

As I see it, the first quote is a personal opinion of ONE specific female.

The second quote however is a slur on ALL females in general, thus deserving of disgust from all, even those who may use undignified language when refering to specific persons.

 

 

I'm not annoyed by saint, because of who he is,I am annoyed by his posts, because the thread is fairly often littered with  his abusive  posts about women.

 

The similarity of the two posts exists in the  two words , which mean precisely the same thing.

 

The fact that one  refers to any and all women and the other refers to one specific woman, for me, is neither here  or there.

 

That is my last word on the issue.

 

 

edited. to spell women  correctly.

jacksonb
Last edited by jacksonb

And my last word on the issue

 

I, like many others, dislike Denise Welch and called her out in such a way as a reference to her behaviour which most of us agree is a disgrace. Not withstanding her cheating on her husband and seemingly shameless drug taking.

And so my comment was specific to her only.

As for the 'Marlon' comment, my use of  was in disbelief that he would say that and was to everyone except one - completely understandable.

As for people being offended by my comment - well, of course I don't want to deliberately offend but I won't be gagged by a small (less than a hand full) of people who seem to have a problem whilst many more seem not to - or not to the extent that they need to comment.

If I am instructed by Moderators otherwise I will comply without reservation.

Saint
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
 

Flippin' Denise Slag Bag Welch

 

 

"Every girl's a slut to the right man" !!!! 

If we are going to get annoyed with each other because our opinions differ then let's just take a few minutes to disect this using the two quotes on hand.

Let us ignore for the moment who said which quote and our personal opinions of them and just look at the quotes.

 

As I see it, the first quote is a personal opinion of ONE specific female.

The second quote however is a slur on ALL females in general, thus deserving of disgust from all, even those who may use undignified language when refering to specific persons.

 

 

So it's acceptable to use such pejorative language when referring to the singular rather than the plural You also seem to be missing the point that St Renton frequently uses such terms about a number of women and that the assumptions that he was not happy/ disappointed/disgusted by Marlon's comment are precisely that, assumptions, and incidentally, ones that he has not confirmed. 

FM

Oh and lastly - if you weren't aware.

my comments are never meant to be taken seriously

They are sarcasm, tongue-in-cheek and a dig in the side at a world that often takes itself far too seriously.

"Helen is what you get when women are given the vote" is a perfect example.

Its silly - yet bloomin' hilarious and thankfully understood by most.

Saint
Originally Posted by Saint:

Oh and lastly - if you weren't aware.

my comments are never meant to be taken seriously

They are sarcasm, tongue-in-cheek and a dig in the side at a world that often takes itself far too seriously.

"Helen is what you get when women are given the vote" is a perfect example.

Its silly - yet bloomin' hilarious and thankfully understood by most.

Moonie
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
 

Flippin' Denise Slag Bag Welch

 

 

"Every girl's a slut to the right man" !!!! 

If we are going to get annoyed with each other because our opinions differ then let's just take a few minutes to disect this using the two quotes on hand.

Let us ignore for the moment who said which quote and our personal opinions of them and just look at the quotes.

 

As I see it, the first quote is a personal opinion of ONE specific female.

The second quote however is a slur on ALL females in general, thus deserving of disgust from all, even those who may use undignified language when refering to specific persons.

 

 

So it's acceptable to use such pejorative language when referring to the singular rather than the plural You also seem to be missing the point that St Renton frequently uses such terms about a number of women and that the assumptions that he was not happy/ disappointed/disgusted by Marlon's comment are precisely that, assumptions, and incidentally, ones that he has not confirmed. 

Oh I have in another thread

I said he should be warned - possibly evicted

Saint
Originally Posted by moonie:
Originally Posted by Saint:

Oh and lastly - if you weren't aware.

my comments are never meant to be taken seriously

They are sarcasm, tongue-in-cheek and a dig in the side at a world that often takes itself far too seriously.

"Helen is what you get when women are given the vote" is a perfect example.

Its silly - yet bloomin' hilarious and thankfully understood by most.

Yes Mr Moons?

Saint
Originally Posted by Saint:

And my last word on the issue

 

I, like many others, dislike Denise Welch and called her out in such a way as a reference to her behaviour which most of us agree is a disgrace. Not withstanding her cheating on her husband and seemingly shameless drug taking.

And so my comment was specific to her only.

As for the 'Marlon' comment, my use of  was in disbelief that he would say that and was to everyone except one - completely understandable.

As for people being offended by my comment - well, of course I don't want to deliberately offend but I won't be gagged by a small (less than a hand full) of people who seem to have a problem whilst many more seem not to - or not to the extent that they need to comment.

If I am instructed by Moderators otherwise I will comply without reservation.

So as I thought then: disbelief/surprise rather than not happy/ disappointed/disgusted as assumed by some. Thanks for confirming my assumption.

If others, including moderators, are not offended by your constant pejorative language about women, or otherwise ageist, sexist, racist and homophobic remarks then that is a very sad statement on this forum

FM
Last edited by Former Member

Remarks by Sainty...

Some things said with jocularity (a lot of the time)

Some things said with a hint of irony (occasionally)

Some things said with sarcasm (yes but that why most of us likes him)

Some things said with the intent of supplying information (very occasionally)

But malicious...never...

Moonie
Last edited by Moonie
Originally Posted by Saint: 

Oh I have in another thread

I said he should be warned - possibly evicted

Not that I can see https://www.gagajoyjoy.com/topi...9#392690072176829949

 

You did say this however:

June 16, 2014 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by Roger the Alien:
Originally Posted by Saint:
Originally Posted by Bethni:
Originally Posted by Saint:

ASH seems ok

Except for that conversation with Marlon we haven't really seen enough of him, or heard from him to make up our minds. That bit we did hear was disgusting though.

Oh tell me please

Being pervy and calling women slutbuckets

Heh heh - nice !!!

 

Sorry  

FM
Originally Posted by Supes:
 

 

 

So it's acceptable to use such pejorative language when referring to the singular rather than the plural You also seem to be missing the point that St Renton frequently uses such terms about a number of women and that the assumptions that he was not happy/ disappointed/disgusted by Marlon's comment are precisely that, assumptions, and incidentally, ones that he has not confirmed. 

I don't know where you get this Singular/Plural nonsense from.

The point I was referring to was why Marlon's comment was seen as worse (by some) than Saint's reference to Denise, not whether either of the forms of word used was any more or less acceptible than the other.

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing
Originally Posted by Saint:
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Saint:

Supes - you now have an important responsibility to prove when I have ever been racist.

You bursting to tell a racist joke in the UKIP thread

I said I could tell a racist joke - so "could" you

When 'was' I racist?

If you can't see the fact that you wanting to tell the joke was in itself an indicator of racism then that rather confirms my point.

 

I've had enough of this nonsense now

FM

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