Hahah, look at Ben spinning

Ben running

They both are

...but she can't believe her luck (due to those esteem issues you mentioned).

Jeeze, I said 'issues' and I bluddy loathe using that word!

I can't believe Andrew is 19. Is he genuinely 19?!

Poor Ben is useless, you gotta love him

He's in need of a Gok-ing.

He only looks about 16...maybe it's because he's nerdy

That's what it says on his profile.

 I think he looks middle aged.

I know... me too.. we can  at each other!

I think he looks older in a way though, as well as also looking younger. Maybe he's just ageless.

Well, that's the official line. I must say, I'm surprised that everyone-else seems surprised at his age - he definitely looks like an older teen to me. 
Don't know when his birthday is, but apparently he's a Virgo (no jokes, please...), which means he may have his 20th Birthday in the house.

He's a vile, stroppy tosspot but boy, is she evil too!

I'm going to have to have a good look at him

I think JJ is similar to me in not understanding that some people hold grudges and don't just get over arguments after five minutes and still hold issues about them and just want to carry on talking to the person that's been argued with right afterwards. I can't explain this well but I feel sorry for him, basically.

Hadn't realised that before, but yes, she does, and it was there in the nest that I got a flash of the 'funnyness'.

It's the "furd time she's uuuurd i' ..."

Coo, I think she's forgotten those cameras again.

Yes, Josie - I do think you're just saying it for the sake of it (currently going with theory no 2)

Sucks the life out!

my quotes aren't working properly....Cosi I think she's as bad as him in a much sneakier way

He is really upset ,I am surprised.

See, I think he's (JJ) genuinely upset about this.

And yes MaryBee, I get you.  But I'm the sort that needs to be left alone for a few minutes after a row.

Just had another flashback when they showed that extreme close-up of Keeley eating...

Awww... JJ.   Yes Josie - you were a right bitch.

Her accent softens the sound of her vindictiveness.

Oh... nasty - and she's admitted it.

I think he's upset.....but she isn't, sitting there laughing about it

BB's reply to JJ in the DR has made him realise just how much she's shafted him.

Yep

and JJ is very loud with it.....Josie is very manpulative and nasty, but she does it with a smile, no wonder she's worried about the cameras now

Josie moves up a good few places on my hit list

Actually, BB told a fib there - they will discuss previous conversations when they're disciplining HMs over something they've said (e.g. discussing nominations).

[Unless they're being pedantic, and don't count reciting conversations as "discussions"...]

Was not greatly enamoured of Josie from the start....and I haven't seen anything to improve things.

I think they called it a 'conversation' - which is private - and somehow, to me, indicated that Josie wasn't telling the whole truth.

Lordy, now I'm confused!  And I don't really care that much frankly.

Josie is so annoying.

Ahhh....so lying is merely just having people "on".

Silly me.

I want to wipe the sneer off her face.

Stop saying 'switched on'