I think Marcus hit the nail on the head when he said it was obvious that the producers don't care about their own show anymore!

They kept getting it wrong year after year with who they thought we would want to win, and now it seems they've had a bit of a hissy fit over it and given us this years shambles as punishment, and ultimately their arrogance has cost them...

To many contestants with agents..BB having favourites, and manipulating the nomination process.
Taking away live feed..

Totally agree - they have lost interest
But long after many viewers lost interest

It needs to take the BEST of all the other countries BB's

Make it more like Celeb Jungle

A competition to survive - not just a popularist voting scam

The social experiment idea and the study of group dynamics was fine in the first series.
But as soon as words such as "celebrity", "fame", "money" came into being, the whole nature of it changed.
Dodgy contestants were attracted to it.
The producers tried to maintain interest with more and more outragous twists and immature ideas.
It has been slowly dying for 3 or 4 years.
IT`s had it`s day.

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Originally posted by brisket:
The social experiment idea and the study of group dynamics was fine in the first series.
But as soon as words such as "celebrity", "fame", "money" came into being, the whole nature of it changed.
Dodgy contestants were attracted to it.
The producers tried to maintain interest with more and more outragous twists and immature ideas.
It has been slowly dying for 3 or 4 years.
IT`s had it`s day.

Too many dull, thick, boring and vacuous wannabees have been offered under the guise of 'entertainment'.

Cancelling Live Feed

Choosing the wrong contestants

Game show celeb attitude

Appealing to the outrageous

... i cud go on

Have the gossip mags and their readers not killed it.
The need to read about so and so's piles or such after they left BB drove normal people away from wanting to be on the show.

And BBLB stupid George in his silly pants

Scripted wannabe's, the show went downhill from BB 3!

BBlb is a shambolic p*ss take - if i may be so crude

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Originally posted by RENTON:
BBlb is a shambolic p*ss take - if i may be so crude

bbbm is worse lol

They changed the format.
22 housemates this series.
Flogged it to death.

Since Jade made being thick and obnoxious the new 'must have' as a way to a fortune for doing nothing, the wannabees have got worse and worse, and even thicker!

the fact that we've seen people like george, brian belo, jerry, marcus and jonty shows they do get odd contestents who arent in it for fame, not everyone who applies is a fame seeker but the hm selection process is very poor, a change of staff is needed.

the tasks are poor and have little spent on them (just look at some of the bb usa tasks) again a change of staff and an increased budget are needed.

the removal of the red button and internet live feeds killed the show stone dead because it prevented the buzz, remember even ofcom complaints made headlines and brought in extra viewers, despite ch4's lies this is nothing to do with budget but was just an attempt to prevent a repeat of mickey not winning last summer.

as always, screwing with the nominations process has resulted in saving hm's who should have gone long ago, keeping charlie, david and rodrigo in the house in the hopes of another showmance to push just hasnt worked.

for big brother to survive and get viewers it needs one basic change, that is not to be on ch4 and an assurance that whichever channel takes it vows not to employ anyone previously connected to the series.

It was when Sezer was sadly evicted that I thought it was doomed.

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Originally posted by Tiddly~Wink:
Since Jade made being thick and obnoxious the new 'must have' as a way to a fortune for doing nothing, the wannabees have got worse and worse, and even thicker!

Yeah, that too.

Celebrities who are famous for, well, being famous and nothing else.

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Originally posted by RENTON:
It had the potential to be the most influential TV prog of a generation - so why has it all collapsed so spectacularly?

In fairness I think it still is the most influential programme of the last 10 years, in the way that it changed the format of broadcasting and paved the way for the reality tv revolution.

I think the show always had a shelf life though; it's a bit of a one trick pony, and once people knew what to expect the novelty wore off. Constantly putting in bunches of freakish fame-hungry wannabees in a bid to keep it interesting backfired spectacularly and hastened its demise

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Originally posted by jelly vodkafish:
Constantly putting in bunches of freakish fame-hungry wannabees in a bid to keep it interesting backfired spectacularly and hastened its demise

Such as Aisleyne?

*shudders*

Probably the return of Nikki spelt the beginning of the end. Displaying such utter contempt for the wishes of the people who watched the show and even spent their own hard earned to evict her showed exactly what they thought of their audience.

What's Nikki doing now? She used to make my skin crawl. Please tell me she's married to a Tescos checkout operator.

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:

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Originally posted by jelly vodkafish:
Constantly putting in bunches of freakish fame-hungry wannabees in a bid to keep it interesting backfired spectacularly and hastened its demise

Such as Aisleyne?

*shudders*

Your brave .

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Originally posted by brisket:
The social experiment idea and the study of group dynamics was fine in the first series.
But as soon as words such as "celebrity", "fame", "money" came into being, the whole nature of it changed.
Dodgy contestants were attracted to it.
The producers tried to maintain interest with more and more outragous twists and immature ideas.
It has been slowly dying for 3 or 4 years.
IT`s had it`s day.

Absolutely. It became a victim of it's own success. It was a Catch 22 situation to be honest. As it became more popular they sought out the type of housemates who would attract more votes from the celebrity obsessed. Sadly these housemates were so media aware they failed to engage the social dynamic that made the show so good initially thus prompting the producers to invent silly gimmicks to prop up failing interest.

The initial premise is still sound and maybe, just maybe if they had the nerve to really go back to basics there might still be a place for it.

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Originally posted by RENTON:

For me - its becos CH4 treat their own baby with contempt.
Making it no more than an outrageous gameshow.

I agree regarding that definitely. Their manipulation of us and the nomination process has not worked. Taking away LF and only letting us see what they want us to see, is contemptuous.

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Originally posted by captain marbles:
Probably the return of Nikki spelt the beginning of the end. Displaying such utter contempt for the wishes of the people who watched the show and even spent their own hard earned to evict her showed exactly what they thought of their audience.

thats' what i was going to say, that was the point at which i lost faith with ch4, then the 'dream' pete had and nikki coming back and falling into pete's arms, and i'm thinking, wtf, did i miss a chapter,to me it became scripted, and was never,from that point on, anything it had been in the past.

id go along with those who say simply "THEY CHANGED THE FORMAT" it died bit by bit with every bit they messed around with.

Agree with a few posts here....... It started off with general members of the public who were randomly selected from the phone book ... But by BB5, it descended into a load of attention seeking, publicity-seeking talentless wannabes, who just wanted to be famous as quickly as possible, with the least amount of work and effort possible.

Also, it emerged that many of them had agents already and had often already been on tv at some time. And as soon as they get out, they run to Heat magazine or Nuts, or the daily star and sell their lame little story... BB is pathetic now sadly. There aren't many people like Freddie and Marcus who are just in it for the experience. It's sad.

I think that they should pick 10 or 15 people from this forum!!!

but bb5 was a reactin to bb4, in which there were just normal people and nobody wanted to watch it,lol.

as each year passed the mental and physical age of the contestants decreased exponentially.. as did that of the production team..

Now they are all just amoebas

Sad day for British TV I say. Even though this series has been awful, I'll miss good old BB.

A TV format that only idiots could mess up. Well done C4!

Interestingly C4 say BB has run its course.

What they really mean is they've run out of token winners to make their big statements - been there, done that!

BB doesn't have to be about box ticking, but C4 had some misguided idea that it was exactly about box ticking.

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
What's Nikki doing now? She used to make my skin crawl. Please tell me she's married to a Tescos checkout operator.

What have you got against Tesco checkout operators??

What could they have done that you should be so cruel...........

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Originally posted by GreyKitten:

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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
What's Nikki doing now? She used to make my skin crawl. Please tell me she's married to a Tescos checkout operator.

What have you got against Tesco checkout operators??

What could they have done that you should be so cruel...........

Where is she? Where is she?

when they started being frightened of the media,
when everybody and his dog was phoning OFCOM if a hm as much as farted,

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Originally posted by JacksonB:
but bb5 was a reactin to bb4, in which there were just normal people and nobody wanted to watch it,lol.

ironically BB4 had the highest viewing figures of any series

I liked BB4. There, I said it

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Originally posted by jelly vodkafish:

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Originally posted by JacksonB:
but bb5 was a reactin to bb4, in which there were just normal people and nobody wanted to watch it,lol.

ironically BB4 had the highest viewing figures of any series

I liked BB4. There, I said it

I liked BB4 as well, and the show has gone downhill since then.

they didnt listen to what the consumer wanted.