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Just to let you know that Spurs beat Cheltenham 3-0. Cheltenham did come close to scoring a couple of times in the second half and they can hold their heads up high. They did not disgrace themselves.

 

They will get half the gate receipts from Spurs - that should be in excess of ÂĢ100k, and for Cheltenham that will come in very handy.

El Loro

I spotted this on the BBC website Obviously things like pineapples and melons would have been rare, but things like butter and bread weren't.

 

 

Groceries today cost one-thirteenth of what they did 150 years ago, according to a study from The Grocer magazine.

The magazine applied an inflation measure to the 1862 prices of 33 items including eggs, hot chocolate, bread, grapes, a toothbrush and sherry.

The weekly basket of food, drink and household items priced at ÂĢ93.95 now would have cost an 1862 shopper ÂĢ1,254.17 in real terms.

The magazine put the fall down to wage increases and greater imports.

The Grocer carried out the analysis to mark its 150th birthday.

While a Victorian shopper would spend a third of their money on food - today our grocery shop accounts for less than 10% of our weekly expense, it said.

It found the biggest relative changes were seen in non-native fruits.

This week a pineapple cost an average of ÂĢ1.72 but in 1862 it sold for 5s - estimated to cost ÂĢ149 in real terms.

1862 v 2012 prices in real terms

  • Pineapple: 8,553% higher
  • Grapes 1kg: 7,419% higher
  • Melon: 5,972% higher
  • Tea 250g: 2,713% higher
  • Butter 250g: 1,138% higher
  • Bread 800g: 451% higher

The magazine said this meant the 1862 price was 8,553% higher when adjusted for inflation.

Similarly, the 1862 price of 1kg of grapes was 7,419% higher while the cost of a melon was 5,971% higher, according to the calculations.

"The reason food is so much cheaper in real terms today is that wages have gone up 10-fold over the last 150 years, while technological changes have made food from around the world readily available," wrote reporter Elinor Zuke.

"In 1862 the average shopper would have spent about a third of their earnings on groceries, whereas now it is around 7% or 12% if you include eating out.

She added: "Twenty years later, in 1882, butter was shipped to the UK from New Zealand for the first time. Butter and lamb from New Zealand are a good example of how bringing food from different places has made it more available and hence cheaper."

El Loro
I saw pineapple's growing in Hawaii- I learned that from planting to picking, they take 18 months to grow! 150 years ago, transporting pineapples from Hawaii to britain would have been much more difficult than it is now, perhaps these are reasons that contribute to their high cost back then..? Sweet dreams squiggle and skylark, I hope the little one has enjoyed herself today El, shame about the score but I'm pleased Cheltenham get a chunk of money for the club
~Sparkling Summer~

Good morning everyone

 

Summer, I'm sure you are right about the reasons why pineapples were so expensive.

Here's a painting of Charles II being presented with the first pineapple grown in England in 1675.

The Latin name for pineapple is Ananas Comosus. I know that from watching that highly educational film St Trinians (which I saw as a sort of tribute to Ronald Searle).

El Loro
that's the strangest thread crossing I've ever seen! Well I'll not get that point now! I definitely started in hoochie's thread too because I had the first page up when I started posting. I was sending several emails in the background, maybe that affected it Anyway, skylark I'm pleased little one enjoyed the panto I think dance classes are a wonderful idea too (especially if nana is paying) Have a good church service all
~Sparkling Summer~
Originally Posted by ~Sweet Winter Wonderland~:
that's the strangest thread crossing I've ever seen! Well I'll not get that point now! I definitely started in hoochie's thread too because I had the first page up when I started posting. I was sending several emails in the background, maybe that affected it Anyway, skylark I'm pleased little one enjoyed the panto I think dance classes are a wonderful idea too (especially if nana is paying) Have a good church service all

I've posted a suitable comment on the bus thread .

 

Skylark, I'm glad your granddaughter loved the panto and that she is taking up dance clients. One of my clients is a dance instructor and has regular dance classes but I think Gloucester would be rather far to go to. My client is also a qualified dance examiner - it takes 7 years to qualify which is longer than it takes to become a solicitor or an accountant.

El Loro

Nice music El 

I saw that on the news Yogi  I actually felt a bit sick watching it!

Nana has booked ballet classes for 10 weeks, see how she goes. I said i would buy her the tutu, shoes etc, she says she has bought them today . Insufferable woman, she hasnt even discussed this with my daughter, the childs mother.
And breathes !

Will say goodnight, sleep well all  

FM
Originally Posted by ~Sweet Winter Wonderland~:
Crikey yogi, that poor girl! Thank goodness she survived! My decorations are down we ended up clearing out the cupboard though, lots to throw out, recycle and take to the charity shop

I've got to go to the recycling centre tomorrow. I forgot to put my plastic bottles out for collection on Friday and I can't wait another month until the binmen come back again.

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Skylark24:

Nice music El 

I saw that on the news Yogi  I actually felt a bit sick watching it!

Nana has booked ballet classes for 10 weeks, see how she goes. I said i would buy her the tutu, shoes etc, she says she has bought them today . Insufferable woman, she hasnt even discussed this with my daughter, the childs mother.
And breathes !

Will say goodnight, sleep well all  

The cheek of that woman! I don't know how you keep your cool with her.

Yogi19

I agree with others who have said that Nana seems a very high-handed woman Skylark, well done on keeping your cool with her.  I hope she doesn't ride roughshod over your daughter, is she like this in every aspect of her life? 

 

Does your recycling only come once a month Yogi? That sounds bad, ours comes every week.

 

Going to read now, speak to you all tomorrow.

squiggle
Originally Posted by squiggle:

I agree with others who have said that Nana seems a very high-handed woman Skylark, well done on keeping your cool with her.  I hope she doesn't ride roughshod over your daughter, is she like this in every aspect of her life? 

 

Does your recycling only come once a month Yogi? That sounds bad, ours comes every week.

 

Going to read now, speak to you all tomorrow.

The food recycling bins are emptied weekly and the paper, glass and cans are collected fortnightly, it's only the plastic which is monthly.

 

Goodnight Squiggle, enjoy your book.

Yogi19
Originally Posted by squiggle:

I agree with others who have said that Nana seems a very high-handed woman Skylark, well done on keeping your cool with her.  I hope she doesn't ride roughshod over your daughter, is she like this in every aspect of her life? 

 

Does your recycling only come once a month Yogi? That sounds bad, ours comes every week.

 

Going to read now, speak to you all tomorrow.

Morning xx

Yes she is squiggle, trying to keep calm , because of the current circumstances. She is her granddaughter too, of course, but would be nice if we all worked together, so to speak.
Anyway, got a busy day. Hope you all have a good one x
Hope all goes well at the dentist El x 

FM
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