@slimfern posted:The delight on Stoke's face
he does have rather an emotive face 
@El Loro posted:Before dawn tomorrow, for those people who have clear skies, are on, say, a hill and get a clear view looking eastwards will get a rare chance to see Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn (and a crescent Moon between Venus and Mars) :
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/sci...environment-61910977
A rare event indeed ..well worth getting up for 
Think I'll wait to see the photos though El 
@slimfern posted:A rare event indeed ..well worth getting up for
Think I'll wait to see the photos though El
I'm sure there'll be photos to see 
Mercury is the hardest to see as it's the closest planet to the Sun, so once the Sun has risen it can't be seen against the brightness of the Sun.
@El Loro posted:Before dawn tomorrow, for those people who have clear skies, are on, say, a hill and get a clear view looking eastwards will get a rare chance to see Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn (and a crescent Moon between Venus and Mars) :
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/sci...environment-61910977
wow fantastic EL 
night EL slim moonsiee velvet
Hope you're good El 
@velvet donkey posted:Hope you're good El
Not too bad, thanks, I hope you're OK too
Doing a client's tax return at present. He was made redundant last year. Showing the amounts on his tax return isn't straightforward. Involves splitting the gross income into 4 different boxes on the return and the tax deducted into 2 different boxes.
I think I've worked it out
@El Loro posted:Doing a client's tax return at present. He was made redundant last year. Showing the amounts on his tax return isn't straightforward. Involves splitting the gross income into 4 different boxes on the return and the tax deducted into 2 different boxes.
I think I've worked it out
Think? 
Just joking, of course El
I have every confidence in your ability to do your work correctly
@Moonie posted:Think?
Just joking, of course El
I have every confidence in your ability to do your work correctly
The reason why I have to say think rather than know is because HMRC's guidance on this is inconsistent, their employment section says one thing, their additional information says another.
So I'm doing what I think is the correct way but I'll have to warn the client that it might be overridden by HMRC computers in which case I'll have to contact HMRC and get it sorted out. The way I'm doing it is consistent with the way TaxCalc are telling people. TaxCalc is one of the major providers of tax software and was conceived by Which? originally back in 1983.
@El Loro posted:The reason why I have to say think rather than know is because HMRC's guidance on this is inconsistent, their employment section says one thing, their additional information says another.
So I'm doing what I think is the correct way but I'll have to warn the client that it might be overridden by HMRC computers in which case I'll have to contact HMRC and get it sorted out. The way I'm doing it is consistent with the way TaxCalc are telling people. TaxCalc is one of the major providers of tax software and was conceived by Which? originally back in 1983.
Dear me El, how do you cope with such inconsistencies?
It sounds like a nightmare to me
night EL slim moonsieee Velvet
@slimfern posted:They must have heard us talking El
I do sometimes wonder if the BBC does look here as it wouldn't be the first time that, for instance, I've mentioned something here and a couple of days later the BBC have a news item about it. For instance recently I posted my concern over buy now pay later schemes (re Apple Pay) a day or so later there's a BBC article about concerns about them, and a few days later, there's talk of the government tightening up the rules on them. In reality, I shouldn't take the credit for that as there would have been others alarmed by Apple's announcement 
Years ago one of the channels had a series on surgery. They showed a trailer for one of the episodes which was extremely gruesome and graphic during the interval of a programme I was watching. I don't remember what I was watching but it would have been something like "Who Want's to be a Millionaire" (back when Chris Tarrant was the host). I made a formal complaint to Ofcom. My complaint was upheld. As part of my complaint I advised Ofcom to consider introducing rules about the timing of trailers particularly. In die course Ofcom amended their guidance re their code 2.3:
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__dat...2-Guidance-Notes.pdf
I'm referring to the part headed Trailers and programme promotions at the end pf page 6. That didn't exist before I made my advice and I do think that it was introduced largely as a result of my complaint.
@El Loro posted:I do sometimes wonder if the BBC does look here as it wouldn't be the first time that, for instance, I've mentioned something here and a couple of days later the BBC have a news item about it. For instance recently I posted my concern over buy now pay later schemes (re Apple Pay) a day or so later there's a BBC article about concerns about them, and a few days later, there's talk of the government tightening up the rules on them. In reality, I shouldn't take the credit for that as there would have been others alarmed by Apple's announcement
Years ago one of the channels had a series on surgery. They showed a trailer for one of the episodes which was extremely gruesome and graphic during the interval of a programme I was watching. I don't remember what I was watching but it would have been something like "Who Want's to be a Millionaire" (back when Chris Tarrant was the host). I made a formal complaint to Ofcom. My complaint was upheld. As part of my complaint I advised Ofcom to consider introducing rules about the timing of trailers particularly. In die course Ofcom amended their guidance re their code 2.3:
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__dat...2-Guidance-Notes.pdf
I'm referring to the part headed Trailers and programme promotions at the end pf page 6. That didn't exist before I made my advice and I do think that it was introduced largely as a result of my complaint.
So that was down to You !! 
How does it feel to be published? (well sort of)
@slimfern posted:So that was down to You !!
How does it feel to be published? (well sort of)
Considering that Ofcom upheld my complaint they clearly felt that it was justified and it's not often that they change their guidance. They don't do that lightly.
Although a lot of people make complaints to Ofcom the complaints tend not to get very far. For instance if a post watershed programme has a warning at the beginning and people complain about content for which there's been a warning, it's unlikely that Ofcom are going to upheld the complaint.
If someone makes a complaint that they think someone on the programme has been treated unfairly, the complaint isn't likely to get very far unless the complaint has been made by the person on the programme or by someone very closely connected.
@El Loro posted:Considering that Ofcom upheld my complaint they clearly felt that it was justified and it's not often that they change their guidance. They don't do that lightly.
Although a lot of people make complaints to Ofcom the complaints tend not to get very far. For instance if a post watershed programme has a warning at the beginning and people complain about content for which there's been a warning, it's unlikely that Ofcom are going to upheld the complaint.
If someone makes a complaint that they think someone on the programme has been treated unfairly, the complaint isn't likely to get very far unless the complaint has been made by the person on the programme or by someone very closely connected.
I expect they get lots of complaints, and I should think a good percentage are unwarranted.
@slimfern posted:I expect they get lots of complaints, and I should think a good percentage are unwarranted.
Although Ofcom list the number of complaints made against individual programmes the majority of complaints are not followed up by them, Ofcom only goes into depth when they believe that there is some reason for investigating.
Ofcom publishes their findings every couple of weeks and sometimes they can be quite interesting.
night EL Slim Moonsieee
@slimfern nothing much new on Talking Pictures tv channel this coming week.
Thursday 22.35 "Hell's Half Acre" a minor film noir about a woman search for her long-lost husband, presumed killed at Pearl Harbor. May be the only film noir from the 1940s/50s era which was set in Hawaii.
They are showing "North West Frontier" (1959) on Saturday afternoon. It's a good film but may have been shown more times on television than any other film. It's been shown on BBC fifteen times and on many other channels as well.
So you might have seen it
@El Loro posted:@slimfern nothing much new on Talking Pictures tv channel this coming week.
Thursday 22.35 "Hell's Half Acre" a minor film noir about a woman search for her long-lost husband, presumed killed at Pearl Harbor. May be the only film noir from the 1940s/50s era which was set in Hawaii.They are showing "North West Frontier" (1959) on Saturday afternoon. It's a good film but may have been shown more times on television than any other film. It's been shown on BBC fifteen times and on many other channels as well.
So you might have seen it
Thanks El
I've checked on wiki to see if I have seen 'North West Frontier' annnnnd....I don't think I have
But could have 
