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@El Loro posted:

Stonehenge as a solar calendar:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-...and-bristol-60573527
12 months of 30 days (subdivided into 3 weeks of 10 days) and then adjusted twice a year to catch up based on the winter and summer solstices. That could be how it worked in 2500BC.

I've been to Stonehenge the once, for a festival way back in my teens
I don't think people are allowed near them anymore are they...

Hasn't it always been thought that they were placed by the Druids as some sort of time piece?
So I guess a solar calendar wouldn't be too strange a thought..

slimfern
@slimfern posted:

It's a detailed game for the time isn't it, reminds me a little of the Zelda games which came out a few years later.

Crazy how massively games graphics have changed..

I moved from Atari to pcs (for business reasons) so never got to play any of the Zelda games though I know they were/are highly regarded

As you say, games graphics have improved since:

El Loro
@slimfern posted:

I've been to Stonehenge the once, for a festival way back in my teens
I don't think people are allowed near them anymore are they...

Hasn't it always been thought that they were placed by the Druids as some sort of time piece?
So I guess a solar calendar wouldn't be too strange a thought..

I did once go to Stonehenge but it was closed off so could only see the stones from the A303 which was a bit pointless. On the same day I went to Glastonbury (not the festival) and  went through the ruins of Glastonbury Abbey, There wasn't anyone else there at the time but there was a sense of something indefinable there. A sense of all the monks and pilgrims who had been there over the years.

I had thought much the same as you about Stonehenge being used for a purpose like that.

El Loro
@El Loro posted:

I moved from Atari to pcs (for business reasons) so never got to play any of the Zelda games though I know they were/are highly regarded

As you say, games graphics have improved since:


I remember some of those games ...Space invaders in particular...when they had the sit down game in our local public house.
My name was very often top of the leader board
I hasten to add...my brother used to take me as I was underage...just!

And the Mario game....which my children still play variations of today...slightly different of course.

The original Zelda 'The Ocarina of time' was a great adventure game ...I was dragged in to play it by the children

slimfern
@El Loro posted:

I did once go to Stonehenge but it was closed off so could only see the stones from the A303 which was a bit pointless. On the same day I went to Glastonbury (not the festival) and  went through the ruins of Glastonbury Abbey, There wasn't anyone else there at the time but there was a sense of something indefinable there. A sense of all the monks and pilgrims who had been there over the years.

I had thought much the same as you about Stonehenge being used for a purpose like that.

At Stonehenge on the summer solstice, the sun rises behind the Heel Stone in the north-east part of the horizon and its first rays shine into the heart of Stonehenge.
It's been used for centuries by various folk to celebrate parts of the year.
If I remember, the stones were closed off to the public for fear of further erosion of the stones.

I've never been to Glastonbury myself, but several members of my family have....for the festival though...not the heritage
I can imagine the sense of history to be quite strong.
I think it depends on an individuals make up as to how a place is received...there are many that wouldn't give the history a  second thought...ignorance?

slimfern
@slimfern posted:


I remember some of those games ...Space invaders in particular...when they had the sit down game in our local public house.
My name was very often top of the leader board
I hasten to add...my brother used to take me as I was underage...just!

And the Mario game....which my children still play variations of today...slightly different of course.

The original Zelda 'The Ocarina of time' was a great adventure game ...I was dragged in to play it by the children

I confess that I recognised several of those as soon as they started before the title was shown

Space Invaders was developed in Japan for arcade machines in 1978. The Atari VCS 2600 version was released in 1980.

El Loro
@slimfern posted:

At Stonehenge on the summer solstice, the sun rises behind the Heel Stone in the north-east part of the horizon and its first rays shine into the heart of Stonehenge.
It's been used for centuries by various folk to celebrate parts of the year.
If I remember, the stones were closed off to the public for fear of further erosion of the stones.

I've never been to Glastonbury myself, but several members of my family have....for the festival though...not the heritage
I can imagine the sense of history to be quite strong.
I think it depends on an individuals make up as to how a place is received...there are many that wouldn't give the history a  second thought...ignorance?

You are right as to the reason for the closure at Stonehenge.

The Glastonbury festival is about 6 miles from Glastonbury. The Abbey ruins are fairly close to Glastonbury, about a mile. As you say, many of the festival goers wouldn't give the history much thought though some might. There is a legend about Joseph of Arimathea raking the Holy Grail to Glastonbury, and so with the King Arthur Legend. The seat at the Round Table called Siege Perilous was reserved by Merlin for the knight who was successful in the quest for the Grail.

El Loro
@El Loro posted:

I confess that I recognised several of those as soon as they started before the title was shown

Space Invaders was developed in Japan for arcade machines in 1978. The Atari VCS 2600 version was released in 1980.

Yes.. it was around '79 when I first left boarding school and my brother thought the 'Local' would be the best place to introduce me to civilian life

slimfern
@El Loro posted:

You are right as to the reason for the closure at Stonehenge.

The Glastonbury festival is about 6 miles from Glastonbury. The Abbey ruins are fairly close to Glastonbury, about a mile. As you say, many of the festival goers wouldn't give the history much thought though some might. There is a legend about Joseph of Arimathea raking the Holy Grail to Glastonbury, and so with the King Arthur Legend. The seat at the Round Table called Siege Perilous was reserved by Merlin for the knight who was successful in the quest for the Grail.

Always liked Merlin

Not sure how he would have received Monty Python, had they turned up with it

slimfern
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@slimfern posted:

Always liked Merlin

Not sure how he would have received Monty Python, had they turned up with it

The classic English chronicle about King Arthur is Thomas Malory's "Le Morte d'Arthur" published in 1485. The closest adaptation of that would be John Boorman's "Excalibur" (1981) which is far removed from the TV "Merlin" and the film you refer to, "Excalibur" is not an easy film to watch but is notable for launching the careers of actors such as Liam Neeson, Patrick Stewart, Gabriel Byrne and CiarÃĄn Hinds. Quite a lot of the music is from Wagner's operas. Boorman might have made a film of "Lord of the Rings". There is the Wagnerian connection with his Ring cycle operas. So I think Boorman was trying for something Wagnerian with "Excalibur".

El Loro
@El Loro posted:

The classic English chronicle about King Arthur is Thomas Malory's "Le Morte d'Arthur" published in 1485. The closest adaptation of that would be John Boorman's "Excalibur" (1981) which is far removed from the TV "Merlin" and the film you refer to, "Excalibur" is not an easy film to watch but is notable for launching the careers of actors such as Liam Neeson, Patrick Stewart, Gabriel Byrne and CiarÃĄn Hinds. Quite a lot of the music is from Wagner's operas. Boorman might have made a film of "Lord of the Rings". There is the Wagnerian connection with his Ring cycle operas. So I think Boorman was trying for something Wagnerian with "Excalibur".

I see it also has Helen Mirren and Cherie Lunghi...I watched the trailer on you tube and yes it is very different to the tv series 'Merlin'.
I thought Nicole Williamson's costume as Merlin looked like something out of 'Flash Gordon'
Apart from that ...it looks to be a good interpretation of the Arthurian legend.
Maybe not for the faint hearted....

'R' rated -Sex, gore, and death are fairly explicit in this version of the Arthur story, with bare breasts and buttocks especially in the Lancelot-Guinevere affair.

slimfern
@El Loro posted:

Opening music for that "Excalibur" film - audio only as the scene is of a battle:

It's taken from Wagner's "GÃķtterdÃĪmmerung" opera which is the last of his Ring cycle. It means "Twilight of the gods". The piece of music is known as "Siegfried's funeral march".
Sets the mood of the film,

Heavy, dark music...I see why it's known as a funeral march

slimfern
@slimfern posted:

I see it also has Helen Mirren and Cherie Lunghi...I watched the trailer on you tube and yes it is very different to the tv series 'Merlin'.
I thought Nicole Williamson's costume as Merlin looked like something out of 'Flash Gordon'
Apart from that ...it looks to be a good interpretation of the Arthurian legend.
Maybe not for the faint hearted....

'R' rated -Sex, gore, and death are fairly explicit in this version of the Arthur story, with bare breasts and buttocks especially in the Lancelot-Guinevere affair.

Film only ever rated 15 in this country, content is in keeping with the storyline and isn't gratuitous.
No, it's not for the faint hearted, and I'm not suggesting that you watch it.

Nicol Williamson's costume was a bit eccentric. Apparently  the metal skull cap was his idea. One bit of trivia that would be of interest to you is that John Boorman had considered Max von Sydow for Merlin and he, of course, was The Emperor Ming in "Flash Gordon".  Merlin in "Excalibur" is totally different to Ming though.

El Loro
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@El Loro posted:

Film only ever rated 15 in this country, content is in keeping with the storyline and isn't gratuitous.
No, it's not for the faint hearted, and I'm not suggesting that you watch it.

Nicol Williamson's costume was a bit eccentric. One bit of trivia that would be of interest to you is that John Boorman had considered Max von Sydow for Merlin and he, of course, was The Emperor Ming in "Flash Gordon".  Merlin in "Excalibur" is totally different to Ming though.

Glad you're not suggesting I watch it cos I wouldn't want to disappoint
Actually it doesn't look too bad, I might give it a go

As for Flash Gordon, I've never actually watched it properly...it was a 'boys' series/film through my young girls eyes. I do remember the characters though cos my brother used to watch...so I did see it and would agree...Merlin is nothing like Ming

slimfern
@slimfern posted:

I see it also has Helen Mirren and Cherie Lunghi...I watched the trailer on you tube and yes it is very different to the tv series 'Merlin'.
I thought Nicole Williamson's costume as Merlin looked like something out of 'Flash Gordon'
Apart from that ...it looks to be a good interpretation of the Arthurian legend.
Maybe not for the faint hearted....

'R' rated -Sex, gore, and death are fairly explicit in this version of the Arthur story, with bare breasts and buttocks especially in the Lancelot-Guinevere affair.

Nicol Williamson was electric in The Bofors Gun. Basically a stage play on film. Glengarry Glenross was also a stage play on film I'd say - that had some soundtrack. I saw it in a charity shop and didn't buy it - wtf was I thinking. Both films are 10's imo.



Hope all are well     

VD

Nicol Williamson was electric in The Bofors Gun. Basically a stage play on film. Glengarry Glenross was also a stage play on film I'd say - that had some soundtrack. I saw it in a charity shop and didn't buy it - wtf was I thinking. Both films are 10's imo.



Hope all are well     

All's well here and I hope likewise for you

El Loro
@slimfern posted:

Glad you're not suggesting I watch it cos I wouldn't want to disappoint
Actually it doesn't look too bad, I might give it a go

As for Flash Gordon, I've never actually watched it properly...it was a 'boys' series/film through my young girls eyes. I do remember the characters though cos my brother used to watch...so I did see it and would agree...Merlin is nothing like Ming

Only saw "Flash Gordon" once.
Do you like Queen's music, if so you might be able to tolerate the film.
If you don't like Queen's music, it's unlikely that you could tolerate the film

El Loro
@El Loro posted:

Only saw "Flash Gordon" once.
Do you like Queen's music, if so you might be able to tolerate the film.
If you don't like Queen's music, it's unlikely that you could tolerate the film

I can take it or leave it tbh.
I do think Freddie Mercury was a great performer and was able to whip up a crowd with his songs.
But seeing as he isn't actually in the film...I think I'll give it a miss

slimfern

Nicol Williamson was electric in The Bofors Gun. Basically a stage play on film. Glengarry Glenross was also a stage play on film I'd say - that had some soundtrack. I saw it in a charity shop and didn't buy it - wtf was I thinking. Both films are 10's imo.



Hope all are well     

Took a look on Wiki re both films.....some bloody good actors

Can't say I much liked the look of 'The Bofors Gun'...bit depressing...however, John Thaw rarely chose a dud to act in.

'Glengarry Glen Ross' is littered with talent....I quite liked the look of that one.



slimfern
@El Loro posted:

Opening music for that "Excalibur" film - audio only as the scene is of a battle:

It's taken from Wagner's "GÃķtterdÃĪmmerung" opera which is the last of his Ring cycle. It means "Twilight of the gods". The piece of music is known as "Siegfried's funeral march".
Sets the mood of the film,

A very funeral like and  heavy piece of music but quite majestic as well

Rocking Ros Rose

A new film called "The Batman" which has been given a 15 certificate has been overridden by Belfast City Council to a 15A certificate. That mans that those under 15 can watch it in a cinema if accompanied by an adult so like the 12A certificate, This has only happened in Belfast.
Although the film has the character Batman, it's closer to a violent crime film than a superhero film.

Councils have had the power to change a film rating for cinemas for a very long time but don't do that very often.
The BBFC don't intend to change the existing 15 certificate. They carry out classification guidelines reviews from time to time with the public and say that parents don't want this changed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-...ern-ireland-60602622

El Loro
@El Loro posted:

A new film called "The Batman" which has been given a 15 certificate has been overridden by Belfast City Council to a 15A certificate. That mans that those under 15 can watch it in a cinema if accompanied by an adult so like the 12A certificate, This has only happened in Belfast.
Although the film has the character Batman, it's closer to a violent crime film than a superhero film.

Councils have had the power to change a film rating for cinemas for a very long time but don't do that very often.
The BBFC don't intend to change the existing 15 certificate. They carry out classification guidelines reviews from time to time with the public and say that parents don't want this changed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-...ern-ireland-60602622

I would never watch a comic book film.



Martin Scorsese was right. I wouldn't watch a horror either. In fact, do I like modern cinema?



Hope all are A1. Moons, get well soon     

Yeah they don't float my boat either Velvet...too violent.

I think a 15A isn't an over-reaction tbh, although, I can't see too many 15 year olds wanting to go to the cinema with Mum and Dad

slimfern

I would never watch a comic book film.



Martin Scorsese was right. I wouldn't watch a horror either. In fact, do I like modern cinema?



Hope all are A1. Moons, get well soon     

Although I have seen some superhero films on television, I wouldn't pay money to see them at a cinema or on a DVD. Martin Scorsese on such films "“Honestly, the closest I can think of them, as well made as they are, with actors doing the best they can under the circumstances, is theme parks. It isn’t the cinema of human beings trying to convey emotional, psychological experiences to another human being.”

I can't say I'm a fan of modern film. Such is my interest and knowledge that when I heard of the name Shia LaBeouf, I thought that was a woman

Moonie, I hope you are getting better

El Loro
@El Loro posted:

Although I have seen some superhero films on television, I wouldn't pay money to see them at a cinema or on a DVD. Martin Scorsese on such films "“Honestly, the closest I can think of them, as well made as they are, with actors doing the best they can under the circumstances, is theme parks. It isn’t the cinema of human beings trying to convey emotional, psychological experiences to another human being.”

I can't say I'm a fan of modern film. Such is my interest and knowledge that when I heard of the name Shia LaBeouf, I thought that was a woman

Moonie, I hope you are getting better

You mean she isn't???

slimfern
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