Night night, sleep well, sweet dreams Buddies 
night EL slim moonsieee
Good morning everyone looks like it will be sunny intervals this morning and a cloudy afternoon.
Enjoy your day everyone 
@slimfern I see that the Great Movies Classic (Freeview channel 51) is showing "Journey into Fear" (1942) at 12.55 today. That channel is not available across the country so you may not be able to get it.
"Journey into Fear" is the third Orson Welles/Joseph Cotten film after "Citizen Kane" and "The Magnificent Ambersons". It was credited as directed by Norman Foster though generally accepted as mainly directed by Welles. It's a film noir. It's not an outstanding film but is of interest.
The film has been shown on other channels.
Some brief notes on the other French films I mentioned yesterday:
The 3 films by Jean Vigo:
"Ã propos de Nice" (1930) short travelogue film about Nice which turns into a satirical portrait of the people there.
"ZÃĐro de conduite" (1933) comedy about a repressive boys boarding school (just over 40 minutes long), a precursor to "If..." (1968)
"L'Atalante" (1934) Vigo's masterpiece, first few days of married life for a couple on a barge, one of the most romantic films ever made and very influential. Image of a DVD box:
notice any resemblance to the famous scene in "Titanic"?
Jean Vigo died from TB at the age of 29
"Les Enfants du Paradis" (1945) life in Paris in the 1840s centred on a theatrical group. Directed by Marcel CarnÃĐ. Highly regarded and made in Paris during the occupation. A long film at just over 3 hours which is why it was shown in 2 parts.
All those films are in French with subtitles.
"Fahrenheit 451" (1966) is the one most likely to have been seen by you as it's in English. Based on Ray Bradbury's book and the only film directed by Truffaut in English. Was made in this country. Not wholly successful adaptation as lacking in emotion. Although the cast were mainly English, the lead (Guy Montag) was played by Oskar Werner who had previously worked with Truffaut as Jules in "Jules et Jim" (1962).
@El Loro posted:@slimfern I see that the Great Movies Classic (Freeview channel 51) is showing "Journey into Fear" (1942) at 12.55 today. That channel is not available across the country so you may not be able to get it.
"Journey into Fear" is the third Orson Welles/Joseph Cotten film after "Citizen Kane" and "The Magnificent Ambersons". It was credited as directed by Norman Foster though generally accepted as mainly directed by Welles. It's a film noir. It's not an outstanding film but is of interest.
The film has been shown on other channels.
No El, our transmitter doesn't supply us with that Freeview channel unfortunately, it is however on 424 Virgin Media 
I may record it as not sure I'll have time to watch it at the time it is on. 
@El Loro posted:Some brief notes on the other French films I mentioned yesterday:
The 3 films by Jean Vigo:
"Ã propos de Nice" (1930) short travelogue film about Nice which turns into a satirical portrait of the people there.
"ZÃĐro de conduite" (1933) comedy about a repressive boys boarding school (just over 40 minutes long), a precursor to "If..." (1968)
"L'Atalante" (1934) Vigo's masterpiece, first few days of married life for a couple on a barge, one of the most romantic films ever made and very influential. Image of a DVD box:
Jean Vigo died from TB at the age of 29
"Les Enfants du Paradis" (1945) life in Paris in the 1840s centred on a theatrical group. Directed by Marcel CarnÃĐ. Highly regarded and made in Paris during the occupation. A long film at just over 3 hours which is why it was shown in 2 parts.
All those films are in French with subtitles."Fahrenheit 451" (1966) is the one most likely to have been seen by you as it's in English. Based on Ray Bradbury's book and the only film directed by Truffaut in English. Was made in this country. Not wholly successful adaptation as lacking in emotion. Although the cast were mainly English, the lead (Guy Montag) was played by Oskar Werner who had previously worked with Truffaut as Jules in "Jules et Jim" (1962).
Montag selects a book to memorise, 'Tales of Mystery and Imagination' by Edgar Allan Poe, and becomes one of the book people. In the book he chooses the' Book of Ecclesiastes.'
Yes I do see the similarity to the scene from 'Titanic'
I don't think I've seen any of the films you have mentioned El, Especially not the ones with subtitles. I tend to avoid films like that, I find it a distraction from watching the film trying to read at the same time, also I find very often that the subtitles don't keep up with the action. 
@slimfern posted:Montag selects a book to memorise, 'Tales of Mystery and Imagination' by Edgar Allan Poe, and becomes one of the book people. In the book he chooses the' Book of Ecclesiastes.'
Yes I do see the similarity to the scene from 'Titanic'
I don't think I've seen any of the films you have mentioned El, Especially not the ones with subtitles. I tend to avoid films like that, I find it a distraction from watching the film trying to read at the same time, also I find very often that the subtitles don't keep up with the action.
And Montag is the French word for Monday (for anyone who didn't know),
@slimfern posted:
*whispers to El* Lundi is Monday in French....Montag is Monday in German
which goes to show that I'm useless in foreign languages, only one I was taught at school was French and when it came to the exam I got the lowest possible grade 
When it comes to watching films with subtitles I am able to scan those vey quickly so don't have problems with that.
@El Loro posted:which goes to show that I'm useless in foreign languages, only one I was taught at school was French and when it came to the exam I got the lowest possible grade
When it comes to watching films with subtitles I am able to scan those vey quickly so don't have problems with that.
But you more than make up for it in other subjects El
@slimfern posted:
That's some achievement El
Did you always want to be an accountant?
Thanks 
No, when I was at school I had thought about becoming a computer programmer. Teachers did not think that was an option as I was useless at languages.
(I doubt if they really understood what that involved)
My father worked at the local newspaper office dealing with the payroll. He suggested that I became an accountant. He had a book about this which I looked at - I think it was Munro's book-keeping and accountancy. I did an o-level on accountancy, studied it myself using a teach your self book-keeping book. Come the exam which is when I realised that book-keeping is a small part of accountancy but still managed to pass the exam though with a low grade. Considering that this was an exam for which I had done virtually none of the syllabus, not bad I don't think either of my parents understood what an accountant really does as otherwise they would have realised I was learning from the wrong book.
When I was training to be an accountant I worked on preparing accounts from incomplete records and doing audits of small companies (only privately owned ones, not public ones, in those days all companies had to have an audit). No computers in those days or personal calculators, one adding machine in the office, so one had to be good at mental arithmetic which I was. Key skills were the ability to work logically and be organised.
Eventually I moved to larger scale audits. Didn't do tax work as that was done by those in the tax department. Tax was of course part of my studying for exams.
@El Loro posted:Thanks
No, when I was at school I had thought about becoming a computer programmer. Teachers did not think that was an option as I was useless at languages.
(I doubt if they really understood what that involved)
My father worked at the local newspaper office dealing with the payroll. He suggested that I became an accountant. He had a book about this which I looked at - I think it was Munro's book-keeping and accountancy. I did an o-level on accountancy, studied it myself using a teach your self book-keeping book. Come the exam which is when I realised that book-keeping is a small part of accountancy but still managed to pass the exam though with a low grade. Considering that this was an exam for which I had done virtually none of the syllabus, not bad
When I was training to be an accountant I worked on preparing accounts from incomplete records and doing audits of small companies (only privately owned ones, not public ones, in those days all companies had to have an audit). No computers in those days or personal calculators, one adding machine in the office, so one had to be good at mental arithmetic which I was. Key skills were the ability to work logically and be organised.Eventually I moved to larger scale audits. Didn't do tax work as that was done by those in the tax department. Tax was of course part of my studying for exams.
Where did your teachers learn to teach 
....languages have nothing to do with computer programming, unless of course you are following instructions written in foreign speak
night EL slim moonsieee
Good morning everyone it's a cloudy day today with a hint of a sunny interval or two this afternoon.
Enjoy your day everyone
@slimfern posted:Where did your teachers learn to teach
I was at school a long time ago at a time where there would have been far fewer programmers and computers. Teachers then would be unlikely to have ever used computers.
As I've mentioned before, years later at the firm I worked for I went on a short computer course even though the partner thought it pointless so when we were loaned a computer a couple of years later I was the only person capable of using it and showing others how to.
I think that teachers would have take a very different view now
Recently I've seen an advert of Pip & Nut peanut butter, a rather odd advert:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwOsTZ0CTOI
The woman's hairstyle is distinctive
There's the Brooks Bobs hairstyle (named after the actress Louise Brooks (the German silent 1929 films "Pandora's Box" and "Diary of a Lost Girl")
Then there's the Cleopatra hairstyle such as Elizabeth Taylor in "Cleopatra"
And then there's the one in the advert. No idea what that's called though.
@El Loro posted:I was at school a long time ago at a time where there would have been far fewer programmers and computers. Teachers then would be unlikely to have ever used computers.
As I've mentioned before, years later at the firm I worked for I went on a short computer course even though the partner thought it pointless so when we were loaned a computer a couple of years later I was the only person capable of using it and showing others how to.
I think that teachers would have take a very different view now
I was at school then too...I think we must be around the same age 
Calculators became familiar during my early senior school years (which we weren't allowed to use in class and certainly not for exams.) No computers, that I can remember ...unless in the Headmistresses office...which of course I wouldn't have been privy to being an 
pupil.
My Headmistress btw was called Mrs Macbeth
@El Loro posted:Recently I've seen an advert of Pip & Nut peanut butter, a rather odd advert:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwOsTZ0CTOI
The woman's hairstyle is distinctive
There's the Brooks Bobs hairstyle (named after the actress Louise Brooks (the German silent 1929 films "Pandora's Box" and "Diary of a Lost Girl")
Then there's the Cleopatra hairstyle such as Elizabeth Taylor in "Cleopatra"
And then there's the one in the advert. No idea what that's called though.
It's called 'Long hair with full Baby Bangs' ...(Long hair with a full baby fringe to you and me)
Why do we call a fringe bangs?
Per the Oxford English Dictionary, "bangs" as a term for the fringe of hair lying over the forehead originated in the stables. Horses' tails were sometimes allowed to grow to a certain length, and then were cut off in an even, horizontal trim called a "bangtail." Racehorses were sometimes called bangtails.
Yum yum to the peanut butter
Yum yum to the peanut butter
@slimfern posted:I was at school then too...I think we must be around the same age
Calculators became familiar during my early senior school years (which we weren't allowed to use in class and certainly not for exams.) No computers, that I can remember ...unless in the Headmistresses office...which of course I wouldn't have been privy to being an
My Headmistress btw was called Mrs Macbeth
I'm older than you as calculators as we know them weren't around until a few years after I left school
@slimfern posted:It's called 'Long hair with full Baby Bangs'
Why do we call a fringe bangs?Per the Oxford English Dictionary, "bangs" as a term for the fringe of hair lying over the forehead originated in the stables. Horses' tails were sometimes allowed to grow to a certain length, and then were cut off in an even, horizontal trim called a "bangtail." Racehorses were sometimes called bangtails.
Yum yum to the peanut butter
I've never liked peanut butter as I don't like peanuts I like nuts , but peanuts aren't nuts.
Haven't tried Nutella which I might like as that's hazelnuts.
Freeview channel numbers changing wholescale on Wednesday 26th:
Dave ja vue changes from 23 to 25.
All channels from ITV4 23 through to Together 82 increasing by 1 so become 24 to 83.
The reason for this is that BBC Three returns to Freeview on the 1st of February on channel 23.
Channels 7 and 8 are already in use in parts of the country, 7 is Channel 4 in Wales (S4C is 4 there). 7 is Alba in Scotland. Local television channels where they exist use channels 7 and 8. So those channels can't be used for BBC Three.
@El Loro posted:
I've never liked peanut butter as I don't like peanuts
Haven't tried Nutella which I might like as that's hazelnuts.
Never realised a peanut was a legume and not a nut 
Nutella is okay...bit sweet for my liking, as am not a chocolate fan tbh...do like hazelnuts though.
Brazil nuts are my favourite ...don't like cashews or pistachio 
@El Loro posted:Freeview channel numbers changing wholescale on Wednesday 26th:
Dave ja vue changes from 23 to 25.
All channels from ITV4 23 through to Together 82 increasing by 1 so become 24 to 83.
The reason for this is that BBC Three returns to Freeview on the 1st of February on channel 23.
Channels 7 and 8 are already in use in parts of the country, 7 is Channel 4 in Wales (S4C is 4 there). 7 is Alba in Scotland. Local television channels where they exist use channels 7 and 8. So those channels can't be used for BBC Three.
I suppose it would be too much to ask for the regions to synchronise so that these changes didn't need to happen.
And all for one channel too ...bonkers!
@slimfern posted:Never realised a peanut was a legume and not a nut
Nutella is okay...bit sweet for my liking, as am not a chocolate fan tbh...do like hazelnuts though.
Brazil nuts are my favourite
I think a lot of people assume that peanuts are nuts
@slimfern posted:I suppose it would be too much to ask for the regions to synchronise so that these changes didn't need to happen.
And all for one channel too
Don't forget that the S4C channel is in Welsh and the Alba channel in Scottish Gaelic so are for those viewers who know those languages
(and although you and I can't get channel 24 those in Scotland can (they get BBC 4 channel on that channel, BBC Scotland is on channel 9 there).