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@El Loro posted:


I think that's where you've had a dream where you have lost the money rather than someone else.
The only way I could lose money in connection with a client is if I have then negligent advice and that it was advice which wasn't covered by my professional indemnity insurance. For instance if I advised the client to burn down his properties - I'm hardly likely to do that

Very pleased to hear it


slimfern

On s sombre note, BBC Four is showing "Paths of Glory" (1957) late evening today. The greatest PG-rated anti-war film ever made. Directed by Stanley Kubrick and has Kirk Douglas in the best film he ever made. One of those rare films which everyone should see at least once in their lifetimes and the final scene is one of the most powerful emotional scenes in films. Yes, you are likely to be angry and may cry but you won't forget it.

Not to be confused with "Tunes of Glory" (1960) (Alec Guinness and John Mills).

El Loro
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@El Loro posted:

On s sombre note, BBC Four is showing "Paths of Glory" (1957) late evening today. The greatest PG-rated anti-war film ever made. Directed by Stanley Kubrick and has Kirk Douglas in the best film he ever made. One of those rare films which everyone should see at least once in their lifetimes and the final scene is one of the most powerful emotional scenes in films. Yes, you are likely to be angry and may cry but you won't forget it.

Not to be confused with "Tunes of Glory" (1960) (Alec Guinness and John Mills).

Ideal viewing for Ascension day...


slimfern
@slimfern posted:

I quite like Kirk Douglas, but not fond of war films and certainly not if it's going to make me cry

Kirk Douglas's best known film is Spartacus. The film was intended to be directed by Anthony Mann but after the first week's filming Douglas sacked him (Douglas had his own production company Bryna Productions named after his mother). Douglas decided to ask Stanley Kubrick to direct the film as a result of "Paths of Glory" and Kubrick agreed (as a one-off, most of his films were his idea rather than someone else).
It's the final scene of "Paths of Glory" which may bring a tear to your eye. The characters in the film are French soldiers in WW1. At the end of the film a captured German woman sings a sentimental German folk song to them and they start humming the melody. It's so emotional that it brings tears to their eyes and it's a very powerful scene.
The woman is credited as Susanne Christian. Her actual name was Christiane Susanne Harlan. She then married Stanley Kubrick and stayed married until his death just over 40 years later.

"Paths of Glory" is about the futility of war and military political expediency particularly in WW1.  It wasn't a commercial success when released but is a film which has gained in reputation over the years as it is highly intelligent and profound. It's not your typical action war film with heroes.

El Loro
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@El Loro posted:

Kirk Douglas's best known film is Spartacus. The film was intended to be directed by Anthony Mann but after the first week's filming Douglas sacked him (Douglas had his own production company Bryna Productions named after his mother). Douglas decided to ask Stanley Kubrick to direct the film as a result of "Paths of Glory" and Kubrick agreed (as a one-off, most of his films were his idea rather than someone else).
It's the final scene of "Paths of Glory" which may bring a tear to your eye. The characters in the film are French soldiers in WW1. At the end of the film a captured German woman sings a sentimental German folk song to them and they start humming the melody. It's so emotional that it brings tears to their eyes and it's a very powerful scene.
The woman is credited as Susanne Christian. Her actual name was Christiane Susanne Harlan. She then married Stanley Kubrick and stayed married until his death just over 40 years later.

"Paths of Glory" is about the futility of war and military political expediency particularly in WW1.  It wasn't a commercial success when released but is a film which has gained in reputation over the years as it is highly intelligent and profound. It's not your typical action war film with heroes.

I remember watching Spartacus and thinking it was quite brutal at the time ....great acting

slimfern
@slimfern posted:

I remember watching Spartacus and thinking it was quite brutal at the time ....great acting

There used to be a local cinema which would show older films from time to time and that's where I saw "Spartacus" for the first time. As you say great acting. A fascinating film from start to finish, the opening credits sequence (designed by Saul Bass and music by Alex North) made me realise that this was going to be an exceptional film. Yes, it's brutal at times but to be expected.

I noted that "Attack !" (1956) is on Film 4 today. You don't want to watch that as it's a nasty (by 1950s standards) and violent war film - when it was first released it had to be cut in order to avoid getting an X certificate. Saw it on television many years ago, far too unpleasant for me. It was directed by Robert Aldrich, quite a number of his films are unpleasant. One film critic described him as "a punchy, caustic, macho and pessimistic director, who depicted corruption and evil unflinchingly, and pushed limits on violence throughout his career. His aggressive and pugnacious film-making style, often crass and crude, but never less than utterly vital and alive, warrants — and will richly reward — your immediate attention."[

El Loro
@El Loro posted:

There used to be a local cinema which would show older films from time to time and that's where I saw "Spartacus" for the first time. As you say great acting. A fascinating film from start to finish, the opening credits sequence (designed by Saul Bass and music by Alex North) made me realise that this was going to be an exceptional film. Yes, it's brutal at times but to be expected.

I noted that "Attack !" (1956) is on Film 4 today. You don't want to watch that as it's a nasty (by 1950s standards) and violent war film - when it was first released it had to be cut in order to avoid getting an X certificate. Saw it on television many years ago, far too unpleasant for me. It was directed by Robert Aldrich, quite a number of his films are unpleasant. One film critic described him as "a punchy, caustic, macho and pessimistic director, who depicted corruption and evil unflinchingly, and pushed limits on violence throughout his career. His aggressive and pugnacious film-making style, often crass and crude, but never less than utterly vital and alive, warrants — and will richly reward — your immediate attention."[

Yeah...I think I'll avoid that one thanks El

slimfern
@slimfern posted:

I thought 'Whatever happened to baby Jane' was an excellent film

All 3 of the films I mentioned are considered excellent by those who like the genres. I haven't seen WHTBJ as I haven't wanted to and of the few Robert Aldrich films I've seen I didn't enjoy them. That includes the original "The Flight of the Phoenix" (1965).

El Loro
@slimfern posted:

Even the most sparkling iconic films had it's darkness:
https://www.cheatsheet.com/cul...e-wizard-of-oz.html/

I wouldn't regard that site as wholly reliable. For instance the third item refers to 4 producers working on the film when it should be referring to the directors. The two have very different functions and if the writer of the article doesn't know the difference, then what else is inaccurate.

El Loro
@El Loro posted:

All 3 of the films I mentioned are considered excellent by those who like the genres. I haven't seen WHTBJ as I haven't wanted to and of the few Robert Aldrich films I've seen I didn't enjoy them. That includes the original "The Flight of the Phoenix" (1965).

I've seen 'the dirty dozen'...well some of it...not my cup of tea, as for 'Kiss Her Deadly' ...I don't think so, but can't find anything about it on google except an article about the book?
'The Flight of the Phoenix' has a great casting, but was too nasty for me.
WHTBJ had the fabulous Bette Davis ...I've watched it a few times (it definitely isn't a comedy)

slimfern
@El Loro posted:

I wouldn't regard that site as wholly reliable. For instance the third item refers to 4 producers working on the film when it should be referring to the directors. The two have very different functions and if the writer of the article doesn't know the difference, then what else is inaccurate.

The subtitle stated producers but the content said directors..
I don't know the site....just came across it

slimfern
@slimfern posted:

I've seen 'the dirty dozen'...well some of it...not my cup of tea, as for 'Kiss Her Deadly' ...I don't think so, but can't find anything about it on google except an article about the book?
'The Flight of the Phoenix' has a great casting, but was too nasty for me.
WHTBJ had the fabulous Bette Davis ...I've watched it a few times (it definitely isn't a comedy)

My apologies, I should have posted "Kiss Me Deadly". Neither that or what I had posted has much relevance to the film. It's based on a book by Mickey Spillane with the character he created of Mike Hammer, the very tough private detective. Not a nice film, though the final part of the film is almost unique in the film noir genre though is scientifically inaccurate.

El Loro
@El Loro posted:

Odd coincidence, the actor Ralph Meeker who played the part of Mike Hammer in "Kiss Me Deadly" was also in "Paths of Glory" - the two films are far removed from each other.

MIke Hammer I know from 'The New Mike Hammer' series played by Stacy Keach, although I couldn't tell you any of the story lines....usual detective stuff I should imagine

Ralph Meeker was also in 'The Dirty Dozen'

slimfern
@slimfern posted:

MIke Hammer I know from 'The New Mike Hammer' series played by Stacy Keach, although I couldn't tell you any of the story lines....usual detective stuff I should imagine

Ralph Meeker was also in 'The Dirty Dozen'

I think I had heard about that series but have never seen any of them. I don's think my father thought much of Mickey Spillane. In terms of films, Raymond Chandler (Philip Marlow) and Dashiell Hammett (Sam Spade) were superior.
Humphrey Bogart & Dick Powell = Marlow and Bogart = Spade in The Maltese Falcon are the definitive films.
If you haven't seen "The Maltese Falcon", that is possibly the film which launched the film noir genre.


El Loro
@El Loro posted:

I think I had heard about that series but have never seen any of them. I don's think my father thought much of Mickey Spillane. In terms of films, Raymond Chandler (Philip Marlow) and Dashiell Hammett (Sam Spade) were superior.
Humphrey Bogart & Dick Powell = Marlow and Bogart = Spade in The Maltese Falcon are the definitive films.
If you haven't seen "The Maltese Falcon", that is possibly the film which launched the film noir genre.


My Mother would watch any murder mystery type film...if she wasn't watching then she would be reading a book of the same....anything with a bit of suspense of or whodunnit... When she lost her sight she would listen to audio books...nothing stopped her

slimfern

Possible films for Slimfern from the Talking Pictures schedule for Monday to Sunday:
Tuesday 16th 12.20 "The Devil and Miss Jones" (1941) A millionaire (Charles Coburn) masquerades as a new employee in his shop - a gentle comedy.
Thursday 18th 21.00 "An Inspector Calls" (1954) - the definitive film version of the play by J B Priestley  - Alistair Sim in one of his key films (not a comedy).
Friday 19th 9.45 am "Portrait from Life" (1948). A British army major sees a portrait in a London art gallery, finds the artist and tries to find the girl. The storyline is very interesting and I can't think of any other film quite like it.

3 very different films, all worth watching.

El Loro
@El Loro posted:

Possible films for Slimfern from the Talking Pictures schedule for Monday to Sunday:
Tuesday 16th 12.20 "The Devil and Miss Jones" (1941) A millionaire (Charles Coburn) masquerades as a new employee in his shop - a gentle comedy.
Thursday 18th 21.00 "An Inspector Calls" (1954) - the definitive film version of the play by J B Priestley  - Alistair Sim in one of his key films (not a comedy).
Friday 19th 9.45 am "Portrait from Life" (1948). A British army major sees a portrait in a London art gallery, finds the artist and tries to find the girl. The storyline is very interesting and I can't think of any other film quite like it.

3 very different films, all worth watching.

I’ve seen and like that one El

Moonie
@El Loro posted:

Possible films for Slimfern from the Talking Pictures schedule for Monday to Sunday:
Tuesday 16th 12.20 "The Devil and Miss Jones" (1941) A millionaire (Charles Coburn) masquerades as a new employee in his shop - a gentle comedy.
Thursday 18th 21.00 "An Inspector Calls" (1954) - the definitive film version of the play by J B Priestley  - Alistair Sim in one of his key films (not a comedy).
Friday 19th 9.45 am "Portrait from Life" (1948). A British army major sees a portrait in a London art gallery, finds the artist and tries to find the girl. The storyline is very interesting and I can't think of any other film quite like it.

3 very different films, all worth watching.

Alastair as always is brilliant in this film ...definitely worth a re-watch
Will look out for 'The Devil and Miss Jones', I like the sound of it...
'Portrait from life' is on you tube for free, so might give that a watch after lunch

Thank you for the recommendations El

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