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Good morning everyone

Sunny here though not warm outside.

Got an email from someone I know from church. Email asking for help but didn't go into details. I haven't had an email from him for quite some time but the sender's email address was not the one I have in my address book. Email sent an hour ago so I rang, straight through to answerphone so I left a message. Email headed of "Help!" and a greeting of just "Hi" without my name are typical of fraudulent scams. Someone replying to such an email would get a response saying that they were in some sort of financial difficulty and need money transferred to them.

I hope everyone has a good day

El Loro
@El Loro posted:

Good morning everyone

Sunny here though not warm outside.

Got an email from someone I know from church. Email asking for help but didn't go into details. I haven't had an email from him for quite some time but the sender's email address was not the one I have in my address book. Email sent an hour ago so I rang, straight through to answerphone so I left a message. Email headed of "Help!" and a greeting of just "Hi" without my name are typical of fraudulent scams. Someone replying to such an email would get a response saying that they were in some sort of financial difficulty and need money transferred to them.

I hope everyone has a good day

That’s disgraceful El

Moonie
@Moonie posted:

That’s disgraceful El

I don't know yet that it's a scam but one can't be too careful
Some years ago I had an email from a client saying that they were abroad on holiday, had been robbed of their money, were due to fly back that day to the UK but the holiday manager wouldn't let them go before being paid so they needed a loan from me as a matter of urgency. I rang the client who was at home - she had discovered that her email had been hacked and that the emails was being sent to others on her address book. She was having to contact everyone to tell them that the email was a scam.

That sort of scam has been going on for years, Just do a search on "Western Union" scam email (Western Union is genuine but has been used by scammers for making money transfers).

El Loro
@El Loro posted:

I don't know yet that it's a scam but one can't be too careful
Some years ago I had an email from a client saying that they were abroad on holiday, had been robbed of their money, were due to fly back that day to the UK but the holiday manager wouldn't let them go before being paid so they needed a loan from me as a matter of urgency. I rang the client who was at home - she had discovered that her email had been hacked and that the emails was being sent to others on her address book. She was having to contact everyone to tell them that the email was a scam.

That sort of scam has been going on for years, Just do a search on "Western Union" scam email (Western Union is genuine but has been used by scammers for making money transfers).

You’re right, you can’t be too careful these days

I have heard of the “Western Union” one El  

Moonie
@El Loro posted:

I don't know yet that it's a scam but one can't be too careful
Some years ago I had an email from a client saying that they were abroad on holiday, had been robbed of their money, were due to fly back that day to the UK but the holiday manager wouldn't let them go before being paid so they needed a loan from me as a matter of urgency. I rang the client who was at home - she had discovered that her email had been hacked and that the emails was being sent to others on her address book. She was having to contact everyone to tell them that the email was a scam.

That sort of scam has been going on for years, Just do a search on "Western Union" scam email (Western Union is genuine but has been used by scammers for making money transfers).

There seems to be very little retribution for these scammers...it's no wonder it has become almost prevalent in today's internet world. Worryingly so

Fortunately I have a savvy family and a Pops that does as he's told (when it involves his laptop that is)

slimfern
@slimfern posted:

There seems to be very little retribution for these scammers...it's no wonder it has become almost prevalent in today's internet world. Worryingly so

Fortunately I have a savvy family and a Pops that does as he's told (when it involves his laptop that is)

As you say, there's far too many scammers around
When I first joined up to use internet (over 20years ago), the following day I got a phone call saying that the provider needed to confirm my bank details. I did but I had some misgiving so I rang my bank who put an immediate stop and said that this was a scam. I didn't lose anything as I had acted immediately. This was in the days before such scams became much better known. But it did make me far more sceptical about phones calls and emails.

Good for your Pop

El Loro
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@El Loro posted:

As you say, there's far too many scammers around
When I first joined up to use internet (over 20years ago), the following day I got a phone call saying that the provider needed to confirm my bank details. I did but I had some misgiving so I rang my bank who put an immediate stop and said that this was a scam. I didn't lose anything as I had acted immediately. This was in the days before such scams became much better known. But it did make me far more sceptical about phones calls and emails.

Good for your Pop

Blimey! they were quick off the mark, it's as well that you were a smarter cookie than they were.

I suspect it didn't help when companies started selling on personal details of their clients.
I found it quite disturbing when having to opt out of my Doctor's surgery passing on my data to others.

slimfern
@slimfern posted:

Blimey! they were quick off the mark, it's as well that you were a smarter cookie than they were.

I suspect it didn't help when companies started selling on personal details of their clients.
I found it quite disturbing when having to opt out of my Doctor's surgery passing on my data to others.

I think the scammers may have had access to details of newcomers to the internet company, either that or an extraordinary coincidence.
When I started on the internet there were about 250 million users globally. Nowadays there are over 5.1 billion users. So about 20 times the number that there were then, allowing for population growth about 15 times.

El Loro
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@El Loro posted:

I think the scammers may have had access to details of newcomers to the internet company, either that or an extraordinary coincidence.
When I started on the internet there were about 250 million users globally. Nowadays there are over 5.1 billion users. So about 20 times the number that there were then, allowing for population growth about 15 times.

My introduction to the internet wasn't till 2009, and even then it was only to gain access to the BB forum a couple of times a week. Nowadays I spend hours on it

I did work for HMRC back in the mid 80's ...inputing data from concards to the computer, but no internet involved at that point.

slimfern
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@slimfern posted:

My introduction to the internet wasn't till 2009, and even then it was only to gain access to the BB forum a couple of times a week. Nowadays I spend hours on it

I did work for HMRC back in the mid 80's ...inputing data from concards to the computer, but no internet involved at that point.

My introduction to the internet was so that I could send and receive emails with clients (with those who did have access), also so that I could file tax returns online using software.

El Loro
@El Loro posted:

Good morning everyone

Sunny here though not warm outside.

Got an email from someone I know from church. Email asking for help but didn't go into details. I haven't had an email from him for quite some time but the sender's email address was not the one I have in my address book. Email sent an hour ago so I rang, straight through to answerphone so I left a message. Email headed of "Help!" and a greeting of just "Hi" without my name are typical of fraudulent scams. Someone replying to such an email would get a response saying that they were in some sort of financial difficulty and need money transferred to them.

I hope everyone has a good day

A church warden knocked on the door and I mentioned the above to him. Lots of other people have had the same email. It is a scam - they want people to but Google play gift cards for them. Church warden is going to the person's house to check up on him as it seems that his actual email address has been taken over and all phone calls are going straight to voice mail.

El Loro
@El Loro posted:

A church warden knocked on the door and I mentioned the above to him. Lots of other people have had the same email. It is a scam - they want people to but Google play gift cards for them. Church warden is going to the person's house to check up on him as it seems that his actual email address has been taken over and all phone calls are going straight to voice mail.

I hope the church warden finds everything to be alright with the individual concerned

slimfern
@El Loro posted:

Good morning everyone

Sunny here though not warm outside.

Got an email from someone I know from church. Email asking for help but didn't go into details. I haven't had an email from him for quite some time but the sender's email address was not the one I have in my address book. Email sent an hour ago so I rang, straight through to answerphone so I left a message. Email headed of "Help!" and a greeting of just "Hi" without my name are typical of fraudulent scams. Someone replying to such an email would get a response saying that they were in some sort of financial difficulty and need money transferred to them.

I hope everyone has a good day

awww that's awful ELthere is too much of this nowadays

Rocking Ros Rose

Watched "Q Planes" (1939) a British film. A quirky British Secret Service Agent tries to discover who is using a secret weapon to steal experimental planes. Leading actors were Ralph Richardson, Laurence Olivier and Valerie Hobson.

The film was released in February 1939. Ian Fleming was recruited in to the Naval Intelligence section of the Royal Navy in May 1939. Others have commented that "You Only Live Twice" has some similarities with "Q Planes".

Uncredited appearance by Ian Fleming in "Q Planes" as an air ministry appearance. However that's the Australian actor, not the famous writer.

Another point of trivia is that Patrick Macnee modelled his John Steed character after the Ralph Richardson character.

El Loro
@El Loro posted:

Watched "Q Planes" (1939) a British film. A quirky British Secret Service Agent tries to discover who is using a secret weapon to steal experimental planes. Leading actors were Ralph Richardson, Laurence Olivier and Valerie Hobson.

The film was released in February 1939. Ian Fleming was recruited in to the Naval Intelligence section of the Royal Navy in May 1939. Others have commented that "You Only Live Twice" has some similarities with "Q Planes".

Uncredited appearance by Ian Fleming in "Q Planes" as an air ministry appearance. However that's the Australian actor, not the famous writer.

Another point of trivia is that Patrick Macnee modelled his John Steed character after the Ralph Richardson character.

Known as 'Clouds Over Europe' in the United States

Worth a watch El?

slimfern
@slimfern posted:

Known as 'Clouds Over Europe' in the United States

Worth a watch El?

As you say "Q Planes" was released in the States as "Clouds over Europe" which would have been a reference to the pre-WW2 situation in Europe.

The film is watchable and not a long film. Richardson is the quirky agent and semi-humorous at times. Olivier in a role as a good looking man of action, If you've ever seen "You Only live Twice" (the one with spacecraft being hijacked and the main action in Japan) you can see how Ian Fleming could have had the idea from watching "Q Planes" Just don't expect any huge explosions in "Q Planes".

El Loro
@El Loro posted:

I see that Film 4 has Vertigo on later this afternoon. Film critics seem to regard that as the best Hitchcock film. Got it to record though I've seen it before.

It's not my favourite Hitchcock film ...is good though
I have it bought on you tube...so can watch it at will

Might give 'Q Planes' a watch over the weekend...quite like a 'Steed' type chap
I can live without explosions..gentle fireworks are more my style

slimfern
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@slimfern posted:

It's not my favourite Hitchcock film ...is good though
I have it bought on you tube...so can watch it at will

Might give 'Q Planes' a watch over the weekend...quite like a 'Steed' type chap
I can live without explosions..gentle fireworks are more my style

"Vertigo" isn't my favourite Hitchcock film either though it is good

I think the main similarity between the Ralph Richardson character and John Steed is that they had bowler hats

I don't like fireworks:
https://fireworkcampaign.com/2...ks-terrify-and-kill/

El Loro
@slimfern posted:

No me neither......sparklers maybe
I would have them banned in my world

Sparklers are the least harmful

Many many years ago my father made his own fireworks and had a small stock of chemicals to make them including black powder (gunpowder) - that was in the days where it was legal to do that, obviously not now other than licenced manufacturers.
According to my mother the most notable was a catherine wheel. However it wasn't exactly circular with the result that when lit, each time a corner was reached, there was a bang

El Loro
@El Loro posted:

Sparklers are the least harmful

Many many years ago my father made his own fireworks and had a small stock of chemicals to make them including black powder (gunpowder) - that was in the days where it was legal to do that, obviously not now other than licenced manufacturers.
According to my mother the most notable was a catherine wheel. However it wasn't exactly circular with the result that when lit, each time a corner was reached, there was a bang

awww that's cute  EL

Rocking Ros Rose
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