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@El Loro posted:

I do not like Jennifer Saunders. Years ago I saw her and Dawn French in one of their sketches where they made sarcastic snide comments about someone who was not a public figure. They named the person and the job that person did and their comments were about his name and his job. That person was my brother. Anyone who knew my brother and saw the sketch would know they were talking about him. My brother never saw the sketch and luckily was out of the country on holiday at the time and I never told him abut the sketch.

That was very ignorant of them, and fortunate that your brother wasn't around to hear what was said.

I liked Dawn French in 'The Vicar of Dibley', although I do believe the majority of the humour came from the other characters. It was good Sunday viewing whilst ironing school uniforms ready for the next day

slimfern

Re Godzilla which we mentioned recently. I notice that the Talking Pictures channel is showing a 1959 film called "Behemoth the Sea Monster" tomorrow morning. That was a British/American attempt to do a film rather like the Japanese Godzilla film. Nothing exceptional about the film though Willis O'Brien had an uncredited part in dealing with the special effects. He is best known for his work on the original King Kong film.

Unusually, there were two versions released back in 1959. "Behemoth the Sea Monster" had an A certificate and ran for just over 69 minutes. That had been cut by 2 minutes from the complete version released as "The Giant Behemoth" which had an X certificate. No detail as to what was in those cuts but unlikely to be X material now.

El Loro
@El Loro posted:

Re Godzilla which we mentioned recently. I notice that the Talking Pictures channel is showing a 1959 film called "Behemoth the Sea Monster" tomorrow morning. That was a British/American attempt to do a film rather like the Japanese Godzilla film. Nothing exceptional about the film though Willis O'Brien had an uncredited part in dealing with the special effects. He is best known for his work on the original King Kong film.

Unusually, there were two versions released back in 1959. "Behemoth the Sea Monster" had an A certificate and ran for just over 69 minutes. That had been cut by 2 minutes from the complete version released as "The Giant Behemoth" which had an X certificate. No detail as to what was in those cuts but unlikely to be X material now.

It's not a film I will probably watch tbh
I'd never heard of a Behemoth until playing one of my children's computer games
It wasn't a sea monster....it lived in a cave....not a pleasant creature

I've been listening to Joyce Grenfell this morning....her monologues are funny

slimfern
@slimfern posted:

It's not a film I will probably watch tbh
I'd never heard of a Behemoth until playing one of my children's computer games
It wasn't a sea monster....it lived in a cave....not a pleasant creature

I've been listening to Joyce Grenfell this morning....her monologues are funny

A behemoth is a Jewish word and can be found in the Bible:
https://www.biblegateway.com/p...5-24&version=ESV

Joyce Grenfell's monologues were funny, a forerunner of the type Victoria Wood did

El Loro
@El Loro posted:

A behemoth is a Jewish word and can be found in the Bible:
https://www.biblegateway.com/p...5-24&version=ESV

Joyce Grenfell's monologues were funny, a forerunner of the type Victoria Wood did

Definitely a tough cookie and one I'm glad isn't real

Victoria wood was a genius at what she did....a sad loss to British comedy

Another sad loss I have just read was:
Jane Powell death: Seven Brides for Seven Brothers star dies aged 92
I loved that musical...one of my brothers was named after Russ Tamblyn

slimfern
@slimfern posted:

Definitely a tough cookie and one I'm glad isn't real

Victoria wood was a genius at what she did....a sad loss to British comedy

Another sad loss I have just read was:
Jane Powell death: Seven Brides for Seven Brothers star dies aged 92
I loved that musical...one of my brothers was named after Russ Tamblyn

A very enjoyable musical

El Loro
@slimfern posted:

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Ben Hur on ch5 today.....that was on the vatican's list ...an epic
Not really a pleasant film but was a Wow when it first came on the telly.
Biblical stories tend to be bit gruesome though...

Channel 5 are showing the 2016 remake of Ben Hur, not the famous 1959 film which was the one on the Vatican's list. Incidentally, the 1959 film was directed by William Wyler, the director of Dodsworth which you recently saw,

There was a 1925 silent version which has quite a high reputation and was the most expensive silent film made and spectacular. I decline to watch it as horses were killed during the chariot race. That's not the case in the 1959 film where more care was taken to make sure horses were not harmed.

El Loro
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@El Loro posted:

Channel 5 are showing the 2016 remake of Ben Hur, not the famous 1959 film which was the one on the Vatican's list. Incidentally, the 1959 film was directed by William Wyler, the director of Dodsworth which you recently saw,

There was a 1925 silent version which has quite a high reputation and was the most expensive silent film made and spectacular. I decline to watch it as horses were killed during the chariot race. That's not the case in the 1959 film where more care was taken to make sure horses were not harmed.

I didn't know there was a remake or a first one....only know the one with Charlton Heston.
The chariot scenes were quite horrific, if I remember rightly, I hid behind a cushion...did the same whenever (I want to say Miriam...the one with leprosy) 'she' was in a scene
My Mum once bought me a massive Bible in full colour....I never got through it, it was full of horror stories

slimfern
@slimfern posted:

I didn't know there was a remake or a first one....only know the one with Charlton Heston.
The chariot scenes were quite horrific, if I remember rightly, I hid behind a cushion...did the same whenever (I want to say Miriam...the one with leprosy) 'she' was in a scene
My Mum once bought me a massive Bible in full colour....I never got through it, it was full of horror stories

The director of the silent "Ben Hur" was Fred Niblo.

Back in 1920 he made a film which had a very provocative title. One can see the film on Youtube. I haven't bothered to watch it but I think it likely that the title is the only sensational aspect of the film,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzfqTlkY408

El Loro
@El Loro posted:

The director of the silent "Ben Hur" was Fred Niblo.

Back in 1920 he made a film which had a very provocative title. One can see the film on Youtube. I haven't bothered to watch it but I think it likely that the title is the only sensational aspect of the film,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzfqTlkY408

Interesting Title and prologue El .... Wids Daily, with an eye to the box office, noted, ''Wouldn't be able to keep 'em away from this with a small-pox sign''
A character reflection of the owner of those words do you not think

slimfern
@slimfern posted:

Interesting Title and prologue El .... Wids Daily, with an eye to the box office, noted, ''Wouldn't be able to keep 'em away from this with a small-pox sign''
A character reflection of the owner of those words do you not think

I noticed that too

The prologue also mentioned Theda Bara . At the time she was one of the most famous people in film. Now, very few people have heard of her. In those days, films were on nitrate which is very flammable. Very nearly all her films were destroyed in a fire.
The film studios created a persona for her that she was Egyptian born and was interested in the occult. She was known as "The Vamp" (not the bloodsucking type). Not her real name, and possibly not a coincidence that an anagram of her name is "Arab death"
One of her films was "Cleopatra" (1917), only a few seconds of that still exists:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64jnK7GjO4w

El Loro
@El Loro posted:

I noticed that too

The prologue also mentioned Theda Bara . At the time she was one of the most famous people in film. Now, very few people have heard of her. In those days, films were on nitrate which is very flammable. Very nearly all her films were destroyed in a fire.
The film studios created a persona for her that she was Egyptian born and was interested in the occult. She was known as "The Vamp" (not the bloodsucking type). Not her real name, and possibly not a coincidence that an anagram of her name is "Arab death"
One of her films was "Cleopatra" (1917), only a few seconds of that still exists:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64jnK7GjO4w

I can see why she was considered a temptress....

Shame the films were destroyed....history lost in a way

slimfern
@slimfern posted:

I can see why she was considered a temptress....

Shame the films were destroyed....history lost in a way

One of the few films which still exists is her second one called "A Fool there Was" (1915). It's on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiTRqj6YOYw
Also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ewj60yZ_0E
Different soundtracks, first version a version of Pachelbel's Canon but just repeats over and over, second version seems more atmospheric but sounds as old as the film.

The poem shown at the beginning is by Rudyard Kipling.

The beginning of the film is quite attractive and a bit like looking at an album of very old photographs.
Then the vampire sets out on her destructive path.

(very early film from the Fox Film Corporation which who later merge to become 20th Century Fox)

El Loro
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@El Loro posted:

One of the few films which still exists is her second one called "A Fool there Was" (1915). It's on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiTRqj6YOYw
Also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ewj60yZ_0E
Different soundtracks, first version a version of Pachelbel's Canon but just repeats over and over, second version seems more atmospheric but sounds as old as the film.

The poem shown at the beginning is by Rudyard Kipling.

The beginning of the film is quite attractive and a bit like looking at an album of very old photographs.
Then the vampire sets out on her destructive path.

(very early film from the Fox Film Corporation which who later merge to become 20th Century Fox)

I watched the first right through...yes the music became a bore to listen to, to what was a fairly dramatic film.
Just a few seconds in you can sense a different pace to the film through the music change

A Prosperous merge 


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