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@El Loro posted:

There's a housing estate in Gloucester where the roads are named after birds including thrush. Also tern, bittern, oriole, bullfinch, hawk, fieldfare, osprey, owl, heron, grebe, swift, robin, stonechat, woodcock, eagle and curlew.

We're named  after a whisky diisterally. All the best whisky's add street.



This used to be a whisky factory. The stories taxi drivers tell you.



And I can't spell     

VD
@El Loro posted:

There's a housing estate in Gloucester where the roads are named after birds including thrush. Also tern, bittern, oriole, bullfinch, hawk, fieldfare, osprey, owl, heron, grebe, swift, robin, stonechat, woodcock, eagle and curlew.

Golden Eagle was the name of the first ever pub I frequented....to play darts
There was another pub down the road called The Osprey <<<<didn't go there...too many rowdies
Brize Norton

slimfern
@El Loro posted:

There's a housing estate in Gloucester where the roads are named after birds including thrush. Also tern, bittern, oriole, bullfinch, hawk, fieldfare, osprey, owl, heron, grebe, swift, robin, stonechat, woodcock, eagle and curlew.

My husband (rip) was born in Gloucestershire...Swindon....maybe that's why he had an eye for the 'birds

slimfern
@El Loro posted:

I doubt if you know that the directors of "Some Like it Hot" (Billy Wilder), "High Noon" (Fred Zinnemann), "The Spiral Staircase" (Robert Siodmak), and lesser directors Curt Siodmak and Edward G Ulmer all worked together on a German film which in English was called "People on Sunday" back in 1929/30.

A short film ....5 directors  to make it

slimfern
@slimfern posted:

I thought it was a bit too much to have 5 directors for a 5min film
Is the full film on you tube? I'll take a look in the morning

You can see it on Youtube, but it's been ripped from the Criterion DVD so I'm not posting a link to it
German title is "Menschen am Sonntag". I don't think there's any dialogue but has German text insets with English subtitles.

El Loro
@slimfern posted:

Found it...it's 1,839 metres long......here goes

I hope you like it

One old film I strongly recommend is F W Murnau's 1927 film "Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans". Silent with a music score.
A sophisticated woman from the city attempts to seduce a farmer and get him to murder his wife.
The wife was played by Janet Gaynor.

It's a drama rather than a thriller.

Although the storyline might seem trite, the film is outstanding and is the best silent film ever made. Although one can watch it on Youtube, it's best to get it on a HD restored version on Blu-ray.

The film got 3 Oscars,
Janet Gaynor for Best Actress
Best cinematography 
and "Best Picture, Unique and Artistic Production"
Those Oscars are justified. The last one is the only time in the history of the Oscars that that award was given. If any film deserves it, Sunrise does.

Best seen at a time where you won't be disturbed. What dialogue there is is via text inserts. They get used less as the film goes on. The film is so absorbing that after a while you don't realise that it's silent.

Murnau was a German director who had made some notable films there, the most famous being the original Nosferatu. On the strength of those films he moved to the States and was provided with the finance to make Sunrise. He only made 3 more films there  before he died from a car accident.

El Loro
@El Loro posted:

I hope you like it



It was like people watching with a story running parallel.
The two men were creeps and the two young girls were ĖķeĖķaĖķsĖķyĖķ  easily led.
How long does a model need to sleep ... She needs to rid herself of her oaf/creep of a husband.
Overall it showed to me that the folk worked all week, waiting for Sunday when they could strip off and relax in family time.


slimfern
@El Loro posted:

I hope you like it

One old film I strongly recommend is F W Murnau's 1927 film "Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans". Silent with a music score.
A sophisticated woman from the city attempts to seduce a farmer and get him to murder his wife.
The wife was played by Janet Gaynor.

It's a drama rather than a thriller.

Although the storyline might seem trite, the film is outstanding and is the best silent film ever made. Although one can watch it on Youtube, it's best to get it on a HD restored version on Blu-ray.

The film got 3 Oscars,
Janet Gaynor for Best Actress
Best cinematography
and "Best Picture, Unique and Artistic Production"
Those Oscars are justified. The last one is the only time in the history of the Oscars that that award was given. If any film deserves it, Sunrise does.

Best seen at a time where you won't be disturbed. What dialogue there is is via text inserts. They get used less as the film goes on. The film is so absorbing that after a while you don't realise that it's silent.

Murnau was a German director who had made some notable films there, the most famous being the original Nosferatu. On the strength of those films he moved to the States and was provided with the finance to make Sunrise. He only made 3 more films there  before he died from a car accident.

Thanks El, I'll give it a go... 
Nosferatu is one film I wasn't able to watch, it was way too scary for me.
What a shame for him to die like that

slimfern
@slimfern posted:

Thanks El, I'll give it a go... 
Nosferatu is one film I wasn't able to watch, it was way too scary for me.
What a shame for him to die like that

One of the biggest losses to films in its history

The Murnau "Nosferatu" had Max Shreck in it as the count. Film couldn't be called Dracula for copyright reasons. There were rumours (false) that Shreck was a vampire in real life.

That was remade by Werner Herzog in 1979 with Klaus Kinski. That version has been shown on television a few times quite recently.

El Loro
@El Loro posted:

One of the biggest losses to films in its history

The Murnau "Nosferatu" had Max Shreck in it as the count. Film couldn't be called Dracula for copyright reasons. There were rumours (false) that Shreck was a vampire in real life.

That was remade by Werner Herzog in 1979 with Klaus Kinski. That version has been shown on television a few times quite recently.


He did look and act the part well

slimfern
@slimfern posted:

A few surprises on that list El...
I can see why many of them are there....because of their association with religion or because they depict a wholesome quality


As you say, the list has a few surprises.
"Andrei Rublev" which I mentioned recently is under the religion category as it's about the Russian iconographer though it would qualify the art category.

"The Passion of Joan of Arc" (1928) was directed by Carl Dreyer. A silent masterpiece with possibly the greatest performance in film history  by Falconetti as Joan. She was mainly a stage actress and this was her only notable film. Based on the trial transcripts. The film was made without any music. Music scores have been added since though they were not sanctioned by Dreyer who considered that the film should be watched in total silence. 
A must for serious film enthusiasts but ultra-austere.  Dreyer also directed "Ordet" (1955) which is in the list.

"Intolerance" (1916) was by D W Griffith which was his second major film. It's a very long film. It's a good film and epic in nature but too long for anyone to watch other than for those who love silent films.
His first major film was "Birth of a Nation" and was the first American full length film. Although the film still exists, it is highly unlikely to ever get shown on television other than very late at night with a lengthy warning given beforehand due to its very very controversial content. Strictly for film historians only, not for general viewing.

Two Ingmar Bergman films on the list "The Seventh Seal" and "Wild Strawberries" both very good films though serious. "The Seventh Seal" has been much parodied but is surprisingly watchable and life affirming even though it's set during the Black Death. That's why it's listed under the Values category.

I haven't seen either "La strada" or "8Â―", both by Federico Fellini. May be they were included as being important Italian films.
The Murnau film "Sunrise" deserves to be on that list under the Art category. More deserving than some of the films there.

El Loro
@El Loro posted:

As you say, the list has a few surprises.
"Andrei Rublev" which I mentioned recently is under the religion category as it's about the Russian iconographer though it would qualify the art category.

"The Passion of Joan of Arc" (1928) was directed by Carl Dreyer. A silent masterpiece with possibly the greatest performance in film history  by Falconetti as Joan. She was mainly a stage actress and this was her only notable film. Based on the trial transcripts. The film was made without any music. Music scores have been added since though they were not sanctioned by Dreyer who considered that the film should be watched in total silence.
A must for serious film enthusiasts but ultra-austere.  Dreyer also directed "Ordet" (1955) which is in the list.

"Intolerance" (1916) was by D W Griffith which was his second major film. It's a very long film. It's a good film and epic in nature but too long for anyone to watch other than for those who love silent films.
His first major film was "Birth of a Nation" and was the first American full length film. Although the film still exists, it is highly unlikely to ever get shown on television other than very late at night with a lengthy warning given beforehand due to its very very controversial content. Strictly for film historians only, not for general viewing.

Two Ingmar Bergman films on the list "The Seventh Seal" and "Wild Strawberries" both very good films though serious. "The Seventh Seal" has been much parodied but is surprisingly watchable and life affirming even though it's set during the Black Death. That's why it's listed under the Values category.

I haven't seen either "La strada" or "8Â―", both by Federico Fellini. May be they were included as being important Italian films.
The Murnau film "Sunrise" deserves to be on that list under the Art category. More deserving than some of the films there.

I've had a look on Wikipedia at all the films you have mentioned above El....there's a lot of depression, struggle, betrayal, darkness and death....plus a fair few abuses of a sexual nature.

I think I would rather watch 'It's a wonderful life'

and I can see why you would think 'Birth of a Nation' an unlikely showing ...I would agree 100%

slimfern
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@slimfern posted:

I've had a look on Wikipedia at all the films you have mentioned above El....there's a lot of depression, struggle, betrayal, darkness and death....plus a fair few abuses of a sexual nature.

I think I would rather watch 'It's a wonderful life'

and I can see why you would think 'Birth of a Nation' an unlikely showing ...I would agree 100%

I haven't seen all the films I mentioned and doubt if I will

I have a copy of the book "Halliwell's Top 1000" compiled by John Walker. He took over from Leslie Halliwell in compiling editions of "Halliwell's Film, Video & DVD Guide". The Top 1000 is his personal countdown of the best 1000 films made. His number one film is a 1953 Japanese film called "Tokyo Story". I've no intention of ever watching it as the storyline is so depressing. I wouldn't even check it out to see what it's about as it's that depressing

Incidentally "It's a Wonderful Life" is at 107 and another very popular film "Singin' in the Rain" is at 12.

(Halliwell's books ceased to be updated many years ago, the Top 1000 was published in 2005 so can't include any films made since)

El Loro
@El Loro posted:

I haven't seen all the films I mentioned and doubt if I will

I have a copy of the book "Halliwell's Top 1000" compiled by John Walker. He took over from Leslie Halliwell in compiling editions of "Halliwell's Film, Video & DVD Guide". The Top 1000 is his personal countdown of the best 1000 films made. His number one film is a 1953 Japanese film called "Tokyo Story". I've no intention of ever watching it as the storyline is so depressing. I wouldn't even check it out to see what it's about as it's that depressing

Incidentally "It's a Wonderful Life" is at 107 and another very popular film "Singin' in the Rain" is at 12.

(Halliwell's books ceased to be updated many years ago, the Top 1000 was published in 2005 so can't include any films made since)

I'll give that one a miss then shall I El

That's a big difference between 12 & 107   personally I wouldn't put either in front of the other...both are great films.. well maybe 'it's a wonderful life' would inch ahead ...just an iddy widdy bit

One of my sons has a book like the Halliwell one you had but for music...it's not a Halliwell's though, can't think of which one it is atm...

slimfern
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