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I fear so Spider...... All we can do is hope that Dave shoots himself in the foot by targeting both Ben and Andrew (as he has done this morning), and thereby getting both sets of fans annoyed enough to swing things. I will say, that if he does stay, I will not watch any longer.... not that I am watching much now.  Not because one of my favs has gone, cos that is just one of those things that happens... but because it will confirm in my mind that the GBP rewards (and finds funny) nastiness and *takes deep breath before using the word*, bullying.
Baz
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I fear so Spider...... All we can do is hope that Dave shoots himself in the foot by targeting both Ben and Andrew (as he has done this morning), and thereby getting both sets of fans annoyed enough to swing things. I will say, that if he does stay, I will not watch any longer.... not that I am watching much now. Not because one of my favs has gone, cos that is just one of those things that happens... but because it will confirm in my mind that the GBP rewards (and finds funny) nastiness and *takes deep breath before using the word*, bullying.
Hi Baz, I feel exactly the same.
Fairfax
I support Ben, but he does bring a lot of problems on himself by being too cowardly to confront those he bitches about head on, instead of these one to one conversations that are prone to misconstruction and Chinese whispers...he shoots himself in the foot time after time.
I really want him to stay, although I don't think that he does,we'll just have to wait and see what happens on Friday when most people get around to voting
Kaytee
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I support Ben, but he does bring a lot of problems on himself by being too cowardly to confront those he bitches about head on, instead of these one to one conversations that are prone to misconstruction and Chinese whispers...he shoots himself in the foot time after time.
I agree with you there Kaytee.... but isn't that what JJ does too.... and it doesn't seem to affect his popularity. Ok he had a go at Corin, Ben & Rachel, but he bitched like mad about most of the others, especially when Keeva was in the house, but never had the never had the nerve to front up to them....
Baz
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I fear so Spider...... All we can do is hope that Dave shoots himself in the foot by targeting both Ben and Andrew (as he has done this morning), and thereby getting both sets of fans annoyed enough to swing things. I will say, that if he does stay, I will not watch any longer.... not that I am watching much now. Not because one of my favs has gone, cos that is just one of those things that happens... but because it will confirm in my mind that the GBP rewards (and finds funny) nastiness and *takes deep breath before using the word*, bullying.
That's exactly how I feel, Baz.
Yogi19
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I support Ben, but he does bring a lot of problems on himself by being too cowardly to confront those he bitches about head on, instead of these one to one conversations that are prone to misconstruction and Chinese whispers...he shoots himself in the foot time after time. I really want him to stay, although I don't think that he does,we'll just have to wait and see what happens on Friday when most people get around to voting
Agreed but in no way does it compare with out and out backstabbing that you get from Dave.  His way of being a friend to your face and then backstabbing his lovely bhoy reaches a level of insincerity that takes your breath away.
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I agree with you there Kaytee.... but isn't that what JJ does too.... and it doesn't seem to affect his popularity. Ok he had a go at Corin, Ben & Rachel, but he bitched like mad about most of the others, especially when Keeva was in the house, but never had the never had the nerve to front up to them....
Well they are all at it to some degree or other in that house, but Ben more or less isolated himself from the rest through his preference for intimate conversations with one person at a time. I'm not saying that he's wrong to do that, it's the way he is, but it hasn't done him any favours with the 'gang mentality' prevalent in the house, where they all act like 14 year olds. I wouldn't want to mix with ANY of them in rl, but the BB house is a fake environment and Ben should have used his head a bit more in there, instead of painting a great big target on his back....but I still think he's a great HM
Kaytee
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Agreed but in no way does it compare with out and out backstabbing that you get from Dave. His way of being a friend to your face and then backstabbing his lovely bhoy reaches a level of insincerity that takes your breath away.
Dave is the nastiest piece of work that I've come across in a long time..I want to see the back of him as well...I'm just prepared for the possibility that he won't go, based upon how he's been portrayed in the HLs so far
Kaytee
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but Ben more or less isolated himself from the rest through his preference for intimate conversations with one person at a time. I'm not saying that he's wrong to do that, it's the way he is, but it hasn't done him any favours with the 'gang mentality' prevalent in the house, where they all act like 14 year olds. I wouldn't want to mix with ANY of them in rl, but the BB house is a fake environment and Ben should have used his head a bit more in there, instead of painting a great big target on his back....but I still think he's a great H
You have a point there Kaytee.... I guess it just annoys me. I know it is a game show,  and in the great scheme of things, trivial (*thinks of Josie's take on things*), but it seems the nastier you are the better...which is a sad reflection on society IMO. I also think there is some reverse snobbery going on.... which again does not surprise me, but does make me wonder .......
Baz
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You have a point there Kaytee.... I guess it just annoys me. I know it is a game show, and in the great scheme of things, trivial (*thinks of Josie's take on things*), but it seems the nastier you are the better...which is a sad reflection on society IMO. I also think there is some reverse snobbery going on.... which again does not surprise me, but does make me wonder .......
It is all smoke and mirrors Baz and nothing like rl, but people have always preferred the bitching etc than the HMs actually getting along...I suppose it's innate voyeurism when it boils down to it. How many of us would actually put up with behaviours that that lot have displayed in the House? I doubt any of us if we're honest. Yet it's these behaviours that give us talking points and keeps viewers' attention, although the show is sliding rapidly downhill into oblivion sadly
Kaytee
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No.  JJ has the largest fan base and he's been at the core of some of the most venomous bitching sessions this year with his bitching buddy Caoimhe.  As a JJ fan you should be appaulding Ben's bitching.

JJ at least bring some of his bitching to the fore, Ben doesn't just runs about telling people he loves them. Also, none of JJ's bitching has been as venomous as that of Bens over the last couple of weeks. JJ just bitches that people annoy him, Ben bitches about peoples weight, intelligence, and interests.
RiverRock

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