I'm with you Vids.
He's a funny one that John James.

I agree Video....  I got really annoyed when Govan and others were saying, *well just apologize*, cos he already had, several times. But I just wish Ben would learn to let things drop, and walk away, instead of his constant analyzing. He only makes the situation worse for himself

Josie is the only one who knows how to deal with him, so far!

ooo erm sorry Blizzie but the devious sucky thumb Josie is one of my least favourites.
I just want Ben to tell them all especially JJ to get lost, I want him to stand up and say ok you miserable shower who did you all nominate week 1........cos 10 of you nominated (downtrodden dont let it rest pain in the butt Sunshine)

I meant she's the only one who has dealt with JJ sensibly, so far.
(if that makes any difference )

That's ridiculous. Why should he have to apologise when they all have to nominate and also all pretty much nominated her in the first week themselves?

Bloody Govan should apologise for he and Shabby losing the house the food and drink this week.

Ben's a bumbling oaf who should have kept his trap shut in the first place. It's not some moral exposition he's taking part in, it's BB...so shut up and put up!

Ben makes a lot of mistakes. He is a pilloc He is a pillock.

He's taken that 'upper class twit' stereo type and run with it. Stop explaining, stop trying to justify and stop analyzing...they are not listening, and neither am I 

I think he knows exactly what he is doing. Do something stupid, tell someone who will dob, apologise, play victim, viewers feel sorry, win game

I had to turn LF off last night - they must be so bored in there arguing about nothing all of the time.
I started off feeling sorry for Ben but he went on and on and on and on.....
Sunshine is acting like a victim - FFS what about all the other people who nominated her who are probably being nice as pie to her?
Nope - they are both hugely insecure people who need constant reassurance and it is not nice to watch all the time.

Can we see more of lovely Corin instead who is just there to have the BB experience and is very unintentionally funny.
Oh and I never thought I would say this as i don't normally agree with it BUT lets put another HM or 2 in.

No guts from Ben...illegal talk about nominations should have kept his trap shut...tis a game they are playing and rules are rules

the bloke's a prize pillock

thats probably why i like him.

I'm not saying Ben deserved the treatment but this is why they were given him grief:

Throughout the first week of BB Ben was talking about how he is loyal to his friends. During that week he formed close friendships with Dave, Mario, JJ and Sunshine, who in turn all get on together forming a group of sorts.

Obviously Ben nominated Sunshine and told Shabby , who told the group. This upset the group as they thought Ben was being disloyal when he was the one going on about loyalty the previous week. JJ wouldn't let it lie as he hates 'disloyalty'.

Sunshine even said that she doesn't care if the majority of the house nominated her but finding out Ben did (who she considered a friend) has hurt her feelings. JJ and Dave feel the same way.

Its just another stick to beat Ben with.  Why doesn't she ask the others who they nominated, surprise surprise most of them nominated her.

but not her group of friends. It all goes back to Ben talking about loyalty to his friends in the house and then nominating one of them. I suppose in an environment like the BB house that's a big deal.

because they weren't proclaiming themselves to be her friends squiggle...

As I remember Ben agonised over it in the DR.  Sunshine was being a right royal pain at the time, the first time of nomination its quite difficult to suss out who to nominate.  I don't remember such recriminations about who nommed who in BB before.

But there were 14 other people in the house, he wasn't getting on with Shabby, Govan, Nathan, Rachael, Ife or Keever.

He spent most of his time with Mario and Dave, with JJ and Sunshine coming over to join in. He was even hugging her and telling her how 'interesting' she is.

ben said himself, when he nominated her' this one may be a bit of a shock, but i am nominating some one i consider a friend'

and there was much debate about it on here.
 

They wouldn't have a stick to beat him with if he didn't keep doing sneaky things and then confessing it to the nearest person who he knows will relay it to the others.

squiggle, I have no problem with his nomination angst, but I can't bear to watch a grown man reduced to a blundering fool trying to worm his way out of it. He should just stick up 2 fingers and tell them all to naff orf  He doesn't owe JJ and Sunshine any explanation, however polite and well mannered he may appear (and lets be honest he's as much of a gossip as any of them there).

Baz I agree, he needs to shut up & let it go or tell them all to take a hike. One or the other because if he doesn't his time in there is going to be torture. Watching last nights show I felt terrible for him, it made for uncomfortable watching and I'm at the stage where I cannot watch that repulsive sly Josie and her thumb sucking anymore. I cannot bear her of JJ.

i cant stand jj,hes a snake in the grass

But that's Ben isn't it, he just doesn't.  It might irritate you but I find it a little endearing. I can see why it would annoy though.

Which part of "you must not discuss nominations" do this lot not understand? Idiots..

One of many in this years house.

Sandhurst's loss 

I can see your point squiggle. I also find it endearing to be polite, but for someone who portrays a level of integrity he's not really being his word.

I wish you wouldn`t call Ben horrible names just because he`s naive to the nastiness that goes on in the world. Yep, he is not a street wise fellow but at least he has the moral upper hand in being honest.

He's totally blind to the fact that he behaves exactly the way he complains others do.

Agree Blizzie - but at least he does it NICELY 

Unfortunately the others are not as naive as Ben is and have worked out exactly how to push his buttons... especially JJ, who IMO is turning out to be one of the biggest stirrers in the house... which he is doing right at this moment.... Talk about sanctimonious!

Yah, he's a vairy vairy nice chap 

I think people think he is allowed to because he talks nicely. But a snake is a snake no matter if it hisses or moos.