i see its all nice here
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He was sneering at her implants
I didn't think he was. He didn't say they looked too big, too small, too wonky or whatever. He just said they were the reason she got picked.
John James is a git - but how does pointing out his faults cancel out any criticism of Ben's?
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John James can be mean and aggressive. But so far I don't recall him slagging off any of the girls for their looks. Unlike Ben.
Not condoning any of Bens remarks about Josies weight or appearance, find that offensive in fact, but JJ did slag off Sunshine's big nose and Corin for having bolt ons.
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Did he actually say anything derogatory about her face or figure? No, he confined it to a (pretty spiteful, it's true) attack on her personality
No he didn't. He said plenty behind her back. But he treated her in such a way that she just couldn't understand why on earth he was being so horrible, pretty horrible treatment in my eyes. She had only just got in there, he ruined her BB experience.
Gok Wan tells big women all the time what to wear to look better. Is he a prize bitch too? 
Btw. I don't think it suits Ben to make comments like that and he went too far, but they all bitch at each other in there and he seems to be the only one to ever apologise, appart from JJ1 who crawls after Josie apologising, but never to anybody else.
Btw. I don't think it suits Ben to make comments like that and he went too far, but they all bitch at each other in there and he seems to be the only one to ever apologise, appart from JJ1 who crawls after Josie apologising, but never to anybody else.
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John James is a git - but how does pointing out his faults cancel out any criticism of Ben's?
It's no different from derogatory Ben comments appearing in every thread, no matter how inappropriate. 
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i see its all nice here
I know.It would be nice to read a Ben thread about Ben and not JJ and vice versa. Without the tribal stuff.
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Not condoning any of Bens remarks about Josies weight or appearance, find that offensive in fact, but JJ did slag off Sunshine's big nose and Corin for having bolt ons.
I completely agree, but I fear it might be falling on deaf ears.
In the end, almost every housemate in that house is guilty of judging other people for their appearance, whether seriously or jokingly. To condemn one is to condemn them all.
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I completely agree, but I fear it might be falling on deaf ears. In the end, almost every housemate in that house is guilty of judging other people for their appearance, whether seriously or jokingly. To condemn one is to condemn them all.
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I completely agree, but I fear it might be falling on deaf ears. In the end, almost every housemate in that house is guilty of judging other people for their appearance, whether seriously or jokingly. To condemn one is to condemn them all
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Deman makes a point about Ben and everyone jumps in with "What about JJ"...anyone else says something about JJ and everyone jumps in with "What about Ben"
Exackerly! I don't like either of them. They've both bitched about people, but we're not allowed to critcise Ben, it seems.
You can criticise Ben but you may get labelled a Tweenie and Ben Buddies will be warned not to to go into the thread.
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I don't like either of them.
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You can criticise Ben but you may get labelled a Tweenie and Ben Buddies will be warned not to to go into the thread.
I dunno where this has come from, the atmosphere here the last few days is weird.
I see.... so Ben is not allowed to have an opinion on how anyone looks or dresses but it is perfectly ok for others to criticise him.
How hypocritical can you get?
How hypocritical can you get?
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How hypocritical can you get?
On a scale of one to ten?
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Mathematics online 1,326 Forum Posts Today at 4:33 PM Last Edited: Reference: Not condoning any of Bens remarks about Josies weight or appearance, find that offensive in fact, but JJ did slag off Sunshine's big nose and Corin for having bolt ons. I completely agree, but I fear it might be falling on deaf ears. In the end, almost every housemate in that house is guilty of judging other people for their appearance, whether seriously or jokingly. To condemn one is to condemn them all.
Absolutely.Also, most of us are all guilty one way or another of judging people or having opinions on how someone looks. It is human nature. Or is it just because it was Ben voicing his opinion?
Oh jeez *head-desk*
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I see.... so Ben is not allowed to have an opinion on how anyone looks or dresses but it is perfectly ok for others to criticise him. How hypocritical can you get?
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[Baz...(Ben 2, Corin 16, Mario 7)] Baz...(Ben 2, Corin 16, Mario 7) offline 54,078 Forum Posts Today at 6:07 PM Last Edited: Reference: You can criticise Ben but you may get labelled a Tweenie and Ben Buddies will be warned not to to go into the thread.
Not sure what you are confused about. You've replied to both threads with the Tweenie comments. And the other day people were warned against the Stinky Ben thread.Reference:
Reference: You can criticise Ben but you may get labelled a Tweenie and Ben Buddies will be warned not to to go into the thread. I dunno where this has come from, the atmosphere here the last few days is weird.
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And the other day people were warned against the Stinky Ben thread.
I think the name of that thread alone proves the point that its quite OK to criticise Ben in every aspect but not, for instance, John James.
Its almost always the ones who are in no position to criticise how someone else looks that does it 
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Not sure what you are confused about. You've replied to both threads with the Tweenie comments
Oh I see.... sorry, is that not allowed... even though there is evidence that JJ has a very large teenage fan base......??? ... I do not say ALL his fans are young, but it would appear that there is a great number of them........ And neither do I suppose that all those who criticise Ben are JJ supporters.... or vice versa....Reference: squiggle
I think the name of that thread alone proves the point that its quite OK to criticise Ben in every aspect but not, for instance, John James
That's not true.I've seen all sorts written about John James, some of it by myself.
The vast majority of Ben criticism is about his behaviour and attitude, and yet we get jumped on from a great height for it, or snidey comments about how aggressive we are!
As I have said before, most people are guilty of criticising other people for the way they look, dress, speak or act. Ben is not the exception.
although...keeva really did have a square head 
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That's not true.
I haven't seen any Stinky John James threads even though he has said he hasn't once washed his hair since he's been in there. The guy doesn't do a thing except lie in bed and whinge.
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I completely agree, but I fear it might be falling on deaf ears. In the end, almost every housemate in that house is guilty of judging other people for their appearance, whether seriously or jokingly. To condemn one is to condemn them all.
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The vast majority of Ben criticism is about his behaviour and attitude, and yet we get jumped on from a great height for it, or snidey comments about how aggressive we are!
Very true .........and yet FM's on here feel hard done by because someone dares to criticise. Personally I think Ben gets less stick on here than JJ or Josie.I guess it's where you stand. Dare I say ..........for all the talk of JJ's tweenies - some of Bens chums on here hardly show a mature/balanced attitude.
This is getting not only surreal but hysterical now.
The biggest irony is, Ben has far more fans on this forum than JJ has. Poor RR, Karma and Ditty are banging the drum for JJ mostly alone. Hahahahahahaha
Edited to add I think Soozy is a JJ fan too.
The biggest irony is, Ben has far more fans on this forum than JJ has. Poor RR, Karma and Ditty are banging the drum for JJ mostly alone. Hahahahahahaha
Edited to add I think Soozy is a JJ fan too.
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Soozywoo offline 4,565 Forum Posts Today at 5:35 PM Last Edited: Reference: The vast majority of Ben criticism is about his behaviour and attitude, and yet we get jumped on from a great height for it, or snidey comments about how aggressive we are! Very true .........and yet FM's on here feel hard done by because someone dares to criticise. Personally I think Ben gets less stick on here than JJ or Josie. I guess it's where you stand. Dare I say ..........for all the talk of JJ's tweenies - some of Bens chums on here hardly show a mature/balanced attitude.
I couldn't find a smiley that was wiggling their eyes and poking their tongue out, so I thought I would just laugh
Basically John James fans have no business being angry at Ben's remarks, lest they look like complete hypocrites.
Oh hang on Soozy, found one.....
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The biggest irony is, Ben has far more fans on this forum than JJ has. Poor RR, Karma and Ditty are banging the drum for JJ mostly alone. Hahahahahahaha
Indeed it is the biggest irony ............for every one FM shouting for JJ there must be at least twenty for Ben - most of whom post derogatory stuff about JJ .............however should anyone dare say a wrong word re Ben ......he's being picked on.That is the irony!
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Indeed it is the biggest irony ............for every one FM shouting for JJ there must be at least twenty for Ben - most of whom post derogatory stuff about JJ .............however should anyone dare say a wrong word re Ben ......he's being picked on. That is the irony!
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Indeed it is the biggest irony ............for every one FM shouting for JJ there must be at least twenty for Ben - most of whom post derogatory stuff about JJ .............however should anyone dare say a wrong word re Ben ......he's being picked on
And meanwhile every other HM is forgotten about both bad (Dave!...we almost all hate Dave) and good (whoever peoples preferences are)People moan about the JJ and Josie show this forum is turning into an increasingly hysterical, neurotic, shrieking Ben and JJ show.
*Prays someone starts a thread about Andrew's shoes, Jo's lipgloss....anything!*
A little perspective needed.Now I like Ben as a housemate,as a person If I met him in the real world less so.Anyone who thinks Thatcher was some sort of heroine should be top of my hate list,but I still laugh at him most times with his frankly out of date views.I'm not blind to his faults,but then he's not actually my friend.