He has loads of fans on here

Pop into the Ben's buddies thread....

I cant help but like the chinless wonder

Not my cup of tea at all. His hair looks like it needs a triple dose of Pantene but it's his personality that really offends. He was loving playing the bitch when others - including JJ were encouraging him to. "People will get savaged"?
Then, as soon as the tables are turned, he transforms into a whiny coward. Very childish indeed. When he's finished cultivating a chin, he also needs to grow a spine.

There's worse in there, but he's a total arse, with hypocritical and dodgy beliefs, wrapped up in flowery language.

Hes starting to bore me a bit.

The only problem I see with Ben is that hes definitely gay and in denial

I'm aware Ben has flaws (who hasn't?)but I still support him.
Maz, you are not alone.

Me me me, I think he is lovely and loveable.  People go on about him as if he is pure evil but I haven't see him being nasty to anyone since he got there.  He is over-sensitive to a frightening level, he needs the confidence boost of surviving the public vote, please vote to get Govan out, if possible more than once

I liked him when he entered the house but then he became a bitchy queen who whines when he gets caught out.

LOVE LOVE LOVE him

Ben is probably my favourite, and I love his hair as well.

You're right Blizzie, but I can't help liking him, even knowing all the stupid ridiculous mistakes he's made (and will continue to make).

I wonder if people would like him so much if he was still just as much of a gossipy arse - and a coward - if he didn't have puffy hair and a nicely modulated voice? If he looked and sounded a bit rough, like Nathan?

You could be right Demantoid.

I like him. I know he has faults, but then so do we all. I just feel that his faults are fairly benign and are magnified simply because he is quite naive, and well and truly out of his comfort zone...

If he didn't look like he does or sound like he does people would be lining up to throw tomatoes at him. He is a sneaky whiny bitch.

longcat
I think people in here would be a lot less forgiving if he looked and sounded a bit more common. And his faults would seem less minor if they were delivered in a less foppish way.

Double standards. People say he's being judged by the HM's because of how he looks and sounds. I think he's being judged by them because he is a sneaky whiny little bitch. Who isn't even clever enough to get away with it.

His faults would seem less minor if they were delivered in an aggressive vindictive way eg. Gollum's or Shabby's style of bitching, who are also quite well spoken.

 Or brave enough to fight his own battles without hiding behind Mario and Dave.

Oh yes longcat I can see why you would come to that conclusion he is so pure evil compared to the sweet little pussycats like shabby and caoimhe and govan.

To put some perspective on this, Ben's crime is that he gossips.  Even his fans don't dispute this.  Beyond this, he is completely harmless and unintentionally funny.  Not everyone's taste but certainly not evil as some would like us to believe.

I don't think he's evil, but I don't believe he's the naive, little lost lamb his supporters paint him as.
He's worked successfully in the kind of sphere where someone like that wouldn't last five minutes. Occasionally the mask slips when he starts on about how the 'elite' should control the world, and how people he doesn't like will get 'savaged'.
However, he doesn't have the balls to back any of it up and plays the victim as soon as anyone challenges him.

I didn't say he was pure evil. But I don't think he's the poor-hard-done-by everybody thinks he is. Govan, Keever and Shabby are straight up nasty and we can see it. Ben is a lot more subtle, but he still bitches (not gossips) about other HM's. I think he's very clever. He manages to tell the people he know's full well don't like him things that he knows they will tell others and then when tackled plays the "OMG! I am so sorry, please don't be mean to me card" and people fall for it.

I think there is a bit of resentment of Ben by Shabby's coven because of what they see as his poshness. They appear to regard much of their difference as a class thing.
I have absolutely loathed them when they have mocked his voice.
Blatant mockery it was too!

Well then isn't that Govans crime?

 like Ben, wouldn't go so far as to say I love him though, but yes floppy hair & gormless, I just want to hug him  I do agree with what he said himself, yes he's knowledgeable, but not very intelligent   he's so right, bless his cotton socks 

I like him i cant help it.

I have a split opinion on Ben, I think he's a nice guy and knowledgeable then I think that the gossiping etc he has been doing and getting found out is his own fault because he simply messed up, if he's playing the game great but he should think next time before he speaks especially to certain people in there.

Ben, bless him, reminds me of Tim Nice but Dim!

If he was that devious do you think he would have come straight out of the DR and put his hands up to the fact that he was the reason they were going to lose the hot water?

But that's the funny thing, he knows the people he tells things to are the same people who are going to dob him to the other HM's yet he still tells them. He can't be that bloody stupid.

He's like a bumbling PG Wodehouse character.

I really like Ben.  He`d make a good gossip columnist.

Oh, I think he can be!

I'm really liking Ben

What, even as a member of the 'elite'?

Why not come join us in Ben's Buddies jessejay?