good theory that

I'm with Bea at the moment. I don't like the girl very much but this isn't the Freddie we felt sorry for in the first few weeks. Which is the real Freddie I wonder?

Yes l agree with that, and the fact she is using every opportunity to break him down. And if he dares to ask a question, or express an opinion, she is dimissing him accusing him of being negative.

It is the dismissiveness she uses that makes my blood boil

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
It is the dismissiveness she uses that makes my blood boil

It's the way that she always walks out that makes my blood boil. She drops her venom, then she's off ...

She treats him no different than Kris and Lisa did. Wont let him finish a sentence and patronises him, that's quite apart from the carp she spouts and laying guilt trips on him.

She is virtually telling him when he is allowed or not allowed to speak, and what he can or cannot say.
Can you imagine what she would be like if she was `Head of House`?

Yes she is .. but think back a week ago he was quite happy to listen and watch her tearing other HM apart ,he would sit and laugh with her he showed no empathy for anyone else especially David.

I agree Marge but I'm with her on this one. Freddie is playing a different game for the last 2 weeks. He was the first one to mention game plans way back at the start. I'm beginning to wonder if Lisa and Co were right all along.

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Originally posted by Marguerita:
Yes she is .. but think back a week ago he was quite happy to listen and watch her tearing other HM apart ,he would sit and laugh with her he showed no empathy for anyone else especially David.

Sorry Marge, but I think that's quite different. She hadn't tried to convince any of them that she was their 'special' friend, whereas she did with him. You might not like Freddie, but there are two different issues here.

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Originally posted by Marguerita:
Yes she is .. but think back a week ago he was quite happy to listen and watch her tearing other HM apart ,he would sit and laugh with her he showed no empathy for anyone else especially David.

Yes he did. Had forgotten that.Bea is a cow,she stabs them all in the back, but you are totally correct in what you say Marguerita. AND as for Bea; she still voted David, despite saying otherwise!!

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
It is the dismissiveness she uses that makes my blood boil

but we will have the opportunity soon enough to indicate our dismissiveness towards her, using our dialling fingers

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Originally posted by Tayto:
I'm with Bea at the moment. I don't like the girl very much but this isn't the Freddie we felt sorry for in the first few weeks. Which is the real Freddie I wonder?

I think we are seeing the real Freddie now.

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Originally posted by Marguerita:
Yes she is .. but think back a week ago he was quite happy to listen and watch her tearing other HM apart ,he would sit and laugh with her he showed no empathy for anyone else especially David.

Exactly Marguerita....He had no qualms taking part in ostracising Noirin either.

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Originally posted by Marguerita:
Yes she is .. but think back a week ago he was quite happy to listen and watch her tearing other HM apart ,he would sit and laugh with her he showed no empathy for anyone else especially David.

but Marg, sitting and listening is not quite the same as saying those awful things that Bea said about the others. Freddie said himself subsequent to their row that he used to 'wince' at some of the things she said but just let her carry on. Would you try to stop a steam engine in full flow?

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by Marguerita:
Yes she is .. but think back a week ago he was quite happy to listen and watch her tearing other HM apart ,he would sit and laugh with her he showed no empathy for anyone else especially David.

Sorry Marge, but I think that's quite different. She hadn't tried to convince any of them that she was their 'special' friend, whereas she did with him. You might not like Freddie, but there are two different issues here.

Hi cologne I did not like her from the begining still dont ,and although I agree with most of what she has said to Freddie what she is doing now is beyond belief I keep saying to myself.. is she for real

Cow seems too good for her.

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Originally posted by guku:
...because he straight out asked her if she fancied him.
She couldn't lie and say yes because she'd have to deliver, so she had to tell the truth and say no and now the only power she can wield over him is to be a complete bitch.
The moment Freddie asked her "the question" was also the moment when her original gameplan fell to pieces. She could no longer flirt with him to keep him on-side and she clearly hadn't given any thought to a Plan B.

That's how I see it anyway.

I thoygt it was a bit of a condesceding remark when she said 'I haven't been asked that since I was 14,' like she is sooooooooooooooo mature now SLOWLY going off Bea

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Originally posted by Marguerita:
Yes she is .. but think back a week ago he was quite happy to listen and watch her tearing other HM apart ,he would sit and laugh with her he showed no empathy for anyone else especially David.

totally agree

I have never liked bea from the day she walked into house

The minute she said she would not do anything to put freddie up for eviction in the secret task because she really liked him,after knowing him one hour didnt ring true,it was so obvious she was wanting to get in with fred who was fav to win and all that with kenny,which i didnt agree what he done but it just didnt ring true her ott performances in the first few days

Freddie always took her side,and when she came out telling him and everyone that dave was shouting at her in kitchen which was a lie because she is the biggest liar the house has seen,Freddie having been no where near kitchen pulled him up on it he hung on her every word and the facts were she was a liar and he was blind to her,i always thought fred to fair.

And that disapointed me its ok sticking up for your mates but not when you are looking a fool and dont know the facts

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Originally posted by Tayto:
I'm with Bea at the moment. I don't like the girl very much but this isn't the Freddie we felt sorry for in the first few weeks. Which is the real Freddie I wonder?

It is now hes been destroyed. I cant believe how people are so inperceptive.
He's been put down for 5 weeks. He got back up and was getting confident. Then Bea came in and he felt a bond and got all romantic. Then she slapped him down and he couldnt understand it, he felt confused and reverted to laddish behaviour as way of making sense of his male pride at being hurt and his head f**d over.
Now the ultimate betrayal as now he's up and every one seems to hate him. I just don' get it and like Freddie I feel quite depressed.
I was thinking of spending less time on the forums and I felt guilty I should have been doing something more useful. Now I think I will get a life.
Poor Freddie its like Palm Sunday one week and Good Friday the next. I have a feeling Marcus may go over the wall anyway. Its just his style. The only positive thing about this, if you can call it that, is that Bea didnt nominate him but then maybe thats to save her back!!!!

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Originally posted by Marguerita:
Yes she is .. but think back a week ago he was quite happy to listen and watch her tearing other HM apart ,he would sit and laugh with her he showed no empathy for anyone else especially David.

Oh come on who is he - Saint Fred. He is entitled not to like someone. Hell everyone does it. FFS! Anyone would think hes commited the cardinal sin in actually not liking everyone.

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:

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Originally posted by Marguerita:
Yes she is .. but think back a week ago he was quite happy to listen and watch her tearing other HM apart ,he would sit and laugh with her he showed no empathy for anyone else especially David.

but Marg, sitting and listening is not quite the same as saying those awful things that Bea said about the others. Freddie said himself subsequent to their row that he used to 'wince' at some of the things she said but just let her carry on. Would you try to stop a steam engine in full flow?

He also dared to pull her up about her bitchiness and moaning which is what started her campaigning against him. I am really very, very disappointed at all the vitriol aimed at Freddie after he has been the golden boy for being a victim he is now being pilloried for being - well human. Disgusted at these forums now. Where have all the legions of Fans gone. Leaving the sinking ship EH!

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Cow seems too good for her.

Could we call her Bea Ess Eee - as she mashes your brain?

And the onslaught continues, the girl is being an absolute horror tonight.

Well, what can I say after tonights debacle?

Bea has more than confirmed my belief.
Plus she's also quite disturbed.

Cows are beautiful sacred animals...Bea for me is more likened to a snake.

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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
Cows are beautiful sacred animals...Bea for me is more likened to a snake.

Good point, though snakes are also beautiful and sacred.