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"Now he's going to go straight back out there and tell the others that we`ve been talking about him," she said.

Is she for real?

Notice how she uses the "we" word with her gang,to exclude Freddie further.

(switch link) I`m glad Siavash and Marcus are telling him straight about Bea.

I don`t think I can take much more of her. I`m begining to feel more that intense dislike.
Scotty
Anybody would be paranoid knowing that a person you thought was your Friend had turned against you, and was intent on turning everybody else against you too!

I'm sure I've heard Bea in the past say that if anybody has a problem with her, to talk to her about it....alas, there is no talking to her, she just talks at you or behind your back...
The Devil In Diamante
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Originally posted by tupps:
Again, maybe not put in a way that is palatable to most but she is absolutely right.. he is paranoid. Little wonder I guess as he was subjected to sniping behind his back for weeks on end by Lisa et al.. but still.. she has a point.



I feel the same Tupps. This isn't the same Freddie we thought was being 'bullied' in the first few weeks.
Now I'm wondering if Mark 2 is the real Freddie and if Lisa and the others were blamed in the wrong.
Tayto.
She knows exactly what she is doing, she sailed in there with her hippy chick crap, reeled him in and now she is assassinating him. She belittles and dismisses him (of course once she has established an audience).He achieved more confidence because of her apparant intrest in him. She is the one with Psychology degree, and she is the one who has made out he is paranoid.
Heartache
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Originally posted by Tayto:
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Originally posted by tupps:
Again, maybe not put in a way that is palatable to most but she is absolutely right.. he is paranoid. Little wonder I guess as he was subjected to sniping behind his back for weeks on end by Lisa et al.. but still.. she has a point.



I feel the same Tupps. This isn't the same Freddie we thought was being 'bullied' in the first few weeks.
Now I'm wondering if Mark 2 is the real Freddie and if Lisa and the others were blamed in the wrong.


I've no doubt that what Team Lisa did was horrible and they are to blame for what they did and knew what they were doing and didn't care. I think it supressed him a little. That said, I think that the Freddie we are seeing now is an aspect or aspects of him that didn't come to the surface during that time. I think Freddie is who he is, which includes this Freddie who is prone to over analysis, paranoia, childishness, histrionics and 'dog with a bone' behaviour etc.

I keep remembering what Tom said when he got out of the house. He said Freddie was ok, but he was incredibly difficult to live with and aspects of him were frustrating and annoying. It's much the same as they have all said at one time or another. Even Marcus said to Bea recently that they have all had tearing their hair out times with it but some of them have managed to get past it and get back on an even keel.
tupps
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Originally posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
He's a right to be paranoid, he's been their only topic of conversation for weeks! Apart for a week or so when it dawned on them he was popular on the outside and they laid off him for a while, as Marcus said Bea's undone that and opened the whole hornets nest again.


Indeed she has, and it is twice as worse.
Liverpoollass

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