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Originally posted by Shar:

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Originally posted by The Guru:

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Originally posted by Shar:

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Originally posted by The Guru:

Her body language shows that she's irritated with him being her shadow. That is all. She's asked him for space, no biggy.

Sniping behind his back or discussing with a mate what she should do about the situation?

I'd go with the latter.

I go with the bit in bold ...

That makes no sense when weve seen her say the same to his face?

I've not seen her say the same things to his face that she's said behind his back to marcus and siavash .... If she did, then even freddie in besotted state would see right through her ... IMO ...

She discussed Freddie being sleazy, with Marcus, then told Freddie. So not behind his back.

She told Marcus Freddie was following her round then told Freddie to give her space. So not behind his back again.

Don't you ever chat with a mate if you have trouble with another mate?

As much as I don`t want him to feel hurt, I`m glad this this has happened. Walk away now Freddie. Get back to being you.

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Originally posted by Scotty:
As much as I don`t want him to feel hurt, I`m glad this this has happened. Walk away now Freddie. Get back to being you.

Correct. She's really not all that, for pity's sake. I find her boring and humourless.

Shes just a backstabber of the worst kind.
freddies outlived his use for her now he can f off as far as shes concerned.
shes going to end up friendless in that house.

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Originally posted by The Guru:

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by The Guru:
The guys in the house are acting like social retards. Assuming girls fancy them when they really don't. Wassamatta with them?

Two of the girls they put in the house this year have been sending "I really fancy you" signals at all the guys in there! That's why there are so many confused guys in there this year.

Nah, the guys have taken cuddles as a green light for a relationship.

Don't know about you but personallyme, i'd need clearer signals than a cuddle before declaring my love.

Noirin in particular was even giving Sree definite 'come on' signals. She says she does it to everybody. She did it to all the men in there and Bea is now doing the same. Why do you think all the men in the house are behaving like they are? Because they have been encouraged and made to feel that they are wanted.

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Originally posted by The Guru:

She discussed Freddie being sleazy, with Marcus, then told Freddie. So not behind his back.

She told Marcus Freddie was following her round then told Freddie to give her space. So not behind his back again.

Don't you ever chat with a mate if you have trouble with another mate?

The analogy with chatting to a mate doesn't work for me ... not the same situation at all IMO ... we're obviously on different wavelengths with this ... but if we all saw the same things it would make for pretty boring discussions ...

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Originally posted by Justafriend:
Shes just a backstabber of the worst kind.
freddies outlived his use for her now he can f off as far as shes concerned.
shes going to end up friendless in that house.

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Originally posted by Scotty:
As much as I don`t want him to feel hurt, I`m glad this this has happened. Walk away now Freddie. Get back to being you.

I agree scotty ... his usual insight has been blinded under her spell ... We want the old freddie back ...

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by The Guru:

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by The Guru:
The guys in the house are acting like social retards. Assuming girls fancy them when they really don't. Wassamatta with them?

Two of the girls they put in the house this year have been sending "I really fancy you" signals at all the guys in there! That's why there are so many confused guys in there this year.

Nah, the guys have taken cuddles as a green light for a relationship.

Don't know about you but personallyme, i'd need clearer signals than a cuddle before declaring my love.

Noirin in particular was even giving Sree definite 'come on' signals. She says she does it to everybody. She did it to all the men in there and Bea is now doing the same. Why do you think all the men in the house are behaving like they are? Because they have been encouraged and made to feel that they are wanted.

So you'd absolve the men of any responsibility?

Personallyme, i'd need more than cuddles to give me the green light to declare my love for someone.

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Originally posted by Shar:

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Originally posted by The Guru:

She discussed Freddie being sleazy, with Marcus, then told Freddie. So not behind his back.

She told Marcus Freddie was following her round then told Freddie to give her space. So not behind his back again.

Don't you ever chat with a mate if you have trouble with another mate?

The analogy with chatting to a mate doesn't work for me ... not the same situation at all IMO ... we're obviously on different wavelengths with this ... but if we all saw the same things it would make for pretty boring discussions ...

How isn't it the same situation?

You call it bitching behind backs, i call it talking to a mate about what to do about another mate. If all she did was discuss Freddie without telling Freddie anything, i'd call that bitching.

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Originally posted by The Guru:

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by The Guru:

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by The Guru:
The guys in the house are acting like social retards. Assuming girls fancy them when they really don't. Wassamatta with them?

Two of the girls they put in the house this year have been sending "I really fancy you" signals at all the guys in there! That's why there are so many confused guys in there this year.

Nah, the guys have taken cuddles as a green light for a relationship.

Don't know about you but personallyme, i'd need clearer signals than a cuddle before declaring my love.

Noirin in particular was even giving Sree definite 'come on' signals. She says she does it to everybody. She did it to all the men in there and Bea is now doing the same. Why do you think all the men in the house are behaving like they are? Because they have been encouraged and made to feel that they are wanted.

So you'd absolve the men of any responsibility?

Personallyme, i'd need more than cuddles to give me the green light to declare my love for someone.

Not of any responsibility no, but I think the girls are more to blame. I think confusing signals are totally wrong, what do you think? Would you be happy if you met someone and they made out they were keen to get to know you and considered you a friend, only to find they are talking about you behind your back and telling you to just plain go away? I would find it upsetting, as Sree, Marcus, Siavash and Freddie have done.

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Originally posted by tupps:
He's horny and has set his sights on Bea. It's good she has put him straight. To compare her to Noirin is laughable.. when Freddie became too cloying she has at least tried to put some distance between the two of them and spend more time with others.

Once again I see it the same way,Tupps.

Bea is doing exactly what Noirin was criticised for NOT doing.In other words,putting him in his place and making it clear where the boundaries lie.Far far crueller to offer crumbs of comfort then get uppity when the boundaries are crossed that to be straight.

Can you be more specific Squiggle, that's just a mish mash of completely different situations which makes it difficult to answer.

Or we could stick to the thread.

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:

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Originally posted by tupps:
He's horny and has set his sights on Bea. It's good she has put him straight. To compare her to Noirin is laughable.. when Freddie became too cloying she has at least tried to put some distance between the two of them and spend more time with others.

Once again I see it the same way,Tupps.

Bea is doing exactly what Noirin was criticised for NOT doing.In other words,putting him in his place and making it clear where the boundaries lie.Far far crueller to offer crumbs of comfort then get uppity when the boundaries are crossed that to be straight.

Yep, said the same too. Noirin was derided for not being clear where as Bea couldn't have been clearer.

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Originally posted by The Guru:

How isn't it the same situation?

You call it bitching behind backs, i call it talking to a mate about what to do about another mate. If all she did was discuss Freddie without telling Freddie anything, i'd call that bitching.

It isn't the same situation because I don't go along with the 'mates' analogy ... It's a game and they're all playing it, there are no 'friends' in the house ... there are only potential allies or people who can be influenced ... some of them are better at influencing people and as much as I detest the type of person Bea is, I'll give her credit for being pretty good at sowing seeds of doubt with people ... And yes, I do call it bitching behind backs ...

Oh god, we don't have another Noirin in the house do we?

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Originally posted by The Guru:
Can you be more specific Squiggle, that's just a mish mash of completely different situations which makes it difficult to answer.

Or we could stick to the thread.

I thought my post was quite clear but hey why not go with your second suggestion and we will stick to the thread.

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
Oh god, we don't have another Noirin in the house do we?

Well its just my opinion seemingly LL but I think we do. She has eyed up Freddie Isaac and Siavash so far but most probably she is just the sweetest most misunderstood girl who has not led Freddie a merry dance at all

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Originally posted by The Guru:

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Originally posted by Shar:

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Originally posted by The Guru:

She discussed Freddie being sleazy, with Marcus, then told Freddie. So not behind his back.

She told Marcus Freddie was following her round then told Freddie to give her space. So not behind his back again.

Don't you ever chat with a mate if you have trouble with another mate?

The analogy with chatting to a mate doesn't work for me ... not the same situation at all IMO ... we're obviously on different wavelengths with this ... but if we all saw the same things it would make for pretty boring discussions ...

How isn't it the same situation?

You call it bitching behind backs, i call it talking to a mate about what to do about another mate. If all she did was discuss Freddie without telling Freddie anything, i'd call that bitching.

I saw it more as sounding out a problem with a mate than actual bitching.In my mind theres a world of difference between someone asking advice before tackling a problem and two people who are tittle tattling with absolutely no intention of airing their grievance to the person causing it.

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
Oh god, we don't have another Noirin in the house do we?

Well its just my opinion seemingly LL but I think we do. She has eyed up Freddie Isaac and Siavash so far but most probably she is just the sweetest most misunderstood girl who has not led Freddie a merry dance at all

Hiya

Don't forget Marcus too

I doubt she is misunderstood or even sweet

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Originally posted by Videostar:
Bea's going to spend hours later today banging on about this to anyone who will listen, behind Freddie's back of course.

On nominations day.

I didn't hear this disagreement they had but if she really told Freddie that shes not a hippy then she lied all the time before because shes been telling everyone she was a hippy.

Bang on the money as usual Vid. There's an article on ch4 with Bea discussing it with Siavash.

she should have told him alot earlier then really, she knew how she felt, but like i said before she hadnt got totally settled in and now she has.
hes no longer needed in there by her.

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
Oh god, we don't have another Noirin in the house do we?

Well its just my opinion seemingly LL but I think we do. She has eyed up Freddie Isaac and Siavash so far but most probably she is just the sweetest most misunderstood girl who has not led Freddie a merry dance at all

Hiya

Don't forget Marcus too

I doubt she is misunderstood or even sweet

Oh yeah I forgot, she got in the bath with Marcus too and snuggled up to him yesterday, but no, nothing like Noirin at all, what WAS I thinking?

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
Oh god, we don't have another Noirin in the house do we?

Morning LL

I dont agree Beas Noirin at all.Shes been totally straight with Freddie.I dont buy that shes led him a merry dance either.She cant fart without him and his puppy dog eyes following her around.He's a pest!

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Originally posted by Shar:

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Originally posted by The Guru:

How isn't it the same situation?

You call it bitching behind backs, i call it talking to a mate about what to do about another mate. If all she did was discuss Freddie without telling Freddie anything, i'd call that bitching.

It isn't the same situation because I don't go along with the 'mates' analogy ... It's a game and they're all playing it, there are no 'friends' in the house ... there are only potential allies or people who can be influenced ... some of them are better at influencing people and as much as I detest the type of person Bea is, I'll give her credit for being pretty good at sowing seeds of doubt with people ... And yes, I do call it bitching behind backs ...

So, because it's a game, nobodies situation is genuine. So we could easily say that Freddie is pushing for a relationship to up his coverage on the show?

I maintain bitching behind backs is only the case if it's not said directly to the person in question. It was said directly, so can't be classed as bitching.

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:
Morning LL

I dont agree Beas Noirin at all.Shes been totally straight with Freddie.I dont buy that shes led him a merry dance either.She cant fart without him and his puppy dog eyes following her around.He's a pest!

Morning Mazz

I think we have a Noirin in the making in that she did latch onto Freddy as soon as she entered the house. Telling him how lovely he was, hugging him all the time. She knew how he had been treated in the house and how he was starved of affection and friendly attention really. Knowing all this and what he is like, I think she did lead him on somewhat. Now that he seems to have served his purpose, she is finding him irritating and annoying. Yes, he does follow her about, but the poor guy is besotted with her. She set the ball in motion, so she should reap what she has sown.

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Originally posted by Scotty:
As much as I don`t want him to feel hurt, I`m glad this has happened. Walk away now Freddie. Get back to being you.

Correct. She's really not all that, for pity's sake. I find her boring and humourless.

I find her quite interesting Toid but she`s a wrong one, especially for Freddie.

Poor old Freddie is blinded by lust and is following Bea around like a lost puppy.
Bea did make a beeline for him when she entered the house and now finds the relationship cloying.
Freddy is now behaving like a wuss and Bea is playing a blinder...but once the HMs braincells have struggled to assimilate this, her game will be over and she'll be out.

Yet....there is no way on earth that I'd ever share a bed with a man, if I was unlucky enough to be in the BB house.I do have some standards

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Originally posted by Shar:

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Originally posted by Scotty:
As much as I don`t want him to feel hurt, I`m glad this has happened. Walk away now Freddie. Get back to being you.

I agree scotty ... his usual insight has been blinded under her spell ... We want the old freddie back ...

Yes please Shar.

I reckon she will definitely be up this week, possibly with Lisa or David or even Siavash?

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
I reckon she will definitely be up this week, possibly with Lisa or David or even Siavash?

Yet! I don't want her to go, nasty as she is, she has stirred them up

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Originally posted by Kaytee:

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
I reckon she will definitely be up this week, possibly with Lisa or David or even Siavash?

Yet! I don't want her to go, nasty as she is, she has stirred them up

I have to say, as much as I dislike her now, I would rather Lisa or David went.

At least she has put him straight now. I hope they stay friends as however you feel about Bea, from a tactical point of view she is an ally to Freddie, Marcus and Siavash.

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Originally posted by The Guru:

So, because it's a game, nobodies situation is genuine. So we could easily say that Freddie is pushing for a relationship to up his coverage on the show?

I maintain bitching behind backs is only the case if it's not said directly to the person in question. It was said directly, so can't be classed as bitching.

And I call it bitching when it's said behind freddie's back with the obvious intention of making him look bad ... That's how I see it ... just my opinion ... I get that you don't agree ...

LL I got a feeling she could be up against Marcus and if she is she's got to go. I would probably think it's Marcus vs Bea vs Lisa, possiblity of David?.

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Originally posted by darloboy07:
LL I got a feeling she could be up against Marcus and if she is she's got to go. I would probably think it's Marcus vs Bea vs Lisa, possiblity of David?.

Hiya darlo

If she is up against just Marcus, then yes she has to go. If it is the others, I would rather see Lisa or David go.

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Originally posted by kimota:
At least she has put him straight now. I hope they stay friends as however you feel about Bea, from a tactical point of view she is an ally to Freddie, Marcus and Siavash

At the moment.

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by Kaytee:

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
I reckon she will definitely be up this week, possibly with Lisa or David or even Siavash?

Yet! I don't want her to go, nasty as she is, she has stirred them up

I have to say, as much as I dislike her now, I would rather Lisa or David went.

Add Hira to those two and I'm with you LL

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Originally posted by Shar:

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Originally posted by The Guru:

So, because it's a game, nobodies situation is genuine. So we could easily say that Freddie is pushing for a relationship to up his coverage on the show?

I maintain bitching behind backs is only the case if it's not said directly to the person in question. It was said directly, so can't be classed as bitching.

And I call it bitching when it's said behind freddie's back with the obvious intention of making him look bad ... That's how I see it ... just my opinion ... I get that you don't agree ...

He's making himself look bad, with all the fawning. Same as Sree/Marcus and Siavash.

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Originally posted by Kaytee:

Add Hira to those two and I'm with you LL