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Originally posted by Blizzie:
Dogfish is a Catshark. Glance


LOL!

Bless him, I loved how Marcus said name that shark then could name only three. And didn't actually mention ONE (aside from dogfish) that are present in British waters. Muppet Laugh

But Bea talking shite and making out she was right really pisses me off. She is talking out of her hoop and sooooooo wrong, she couldn't be further from the truth. But of course she is right and knows best Roll Eyes

Feckwit!
langster
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Originally posted by Ņ•ÏÎđ∂Ņ”ŅÐžÏƒÎ·ÐšŅ”Îģ:
Dog fish are certainly a type of shark. I remember catching one off Cromer pier years ago and thinking it was a shark at first until someone else there corrected me. But they have typical shark shaped heads.


I am not disputing the fact that dogfish are a breed of shark, they most certainly are a member of the shark family as are their larger cousins bull huss and rays (skate) What I am saying is dogfish who grow to about 2 to 2/1 feet at most and are found on the bottom of the sea right round Britain eating prawns and crustaceans etc DO NOT grow up to be Basking sharks that can grow to over 20 feet and live on nothing but plankton. Plankton I might add is obviously a close relative of Bea. The nugget!

There are more than 1 breed of dogfish as well. The common one here is LSD, lesser spotted dogfish. Nod
langster
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Originally posted by langster:
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Originally posted by Ņ•ÏÎđ∂Ņ”ŅÐžÏƒÎ·ÐšŅ”Îģ:
Dog fish are certainly a type of shark. I remember catching one off Cromer pier years ago and thinking it was a shark at first until someone else there corrected me. But they have typical shark shaped heads.


I am not disputing the fact that dogfish are a breed of shark, they most certainly are a member of the shark family as are their larger cousins bull huss and rays (skate) What I am saying is dogfish who grow to about 2 to 2/1 feet at most and are found on the bottom of the sea right round Britain eating prawns and crustaceans etc DO NOT grow up to be Basking sharks that can grow to over 20 feet and live on nothing but plankton. Plankton I might add is obviously a close relative of Bea. The nugget!

There are more than 1 breed of dogfish as well. The common one here is LSD, lesser spotted dogfish. Nod


And are sold in fish and chip shops as Rock Salmon. Must remember to go into my local shop, in my most superior Bea voice, and ask for Basking Shark and chips please. Roll Eyes
Heartache
Urghhhh... I can't stand people like Bea, who spout off as if they know everything and prove they don't, just by opening their mouths.

Dogfish are little sharks but they do NOT "grow up" into basking sharks - they are already grown-up dogfish. And of course nurse sharks are, errr, sharks. The clue's in the name, dummy.

Marcus can be an arse ("it's a natterjack toad"), but at least he was right about the harmless crane fly on HLs the other night, when Bea and Sophie were panicking about one.
Demantoid
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Originally posted by langster:
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Originally posted by Ņ•ÏÎđ∂Ņ”ŅÐžÏƒÎ·ÐšŅ”Îģ:
Dog fish are certainly a type of shark. I remember catching one off Cromer pier years ago and thinking it was a shark at first until someone else there corrected me. But they have typical shark shaped heads.


I am not disputing the fact that dogfish are a breed of shark, they most certainly are a member of the shark family as are their larger cousins bull huss and rays (skate) What I am saying is dogfish who grow to about 2 to 2/1 feet at most and are found on the bottom of the sea right round Britain eating prawns and crustaceans etc DO NOT grow up to be Basking sharks that can grow to over 20 feet and live on nothing but plankton. Plankton I might add is obviously a close relative of Bea. The nugget!

There are more than 1 breed of dogfish as well. The common one here is LSD, lesser spotted dogfish. Nod

I've had/caught some 3 or 4ft Dogfish, they are certainly Sharks, they have a massive mouth on the underside like most sharks, and the skin is that strong that you can't cut through it with a knife without blunting it.

And if you run your hand along the skin the wrong way it will rip you to shreds.

And you want to see it's teeth. Eeker


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Pictures of Fish Dogfish Pictures and Dogfish Fishes Kind

Dogfish is a common name for number of small sharks that can be found in in the northeast Atlantic, Pacific and Mediterranean Ocean. In freshwater lakes and rivers, dogfish usually refers to Bowfin family. Dog fishes are known to have lived for many years, even up to 25-30 years. Dogfishes are generally regarded as a nuisance by the fishermen because it tends to latch onto almost anything put in the water including human hands.

Dogfishes are slender and small sharks with a flattened head and a snout tapering to a blunt tip. Their average size is 2.5-3 feet long and larger species of 4-feet and above are also known. They feed on small fish, squids and crustaceans. Dogfishes hunt both alone as well as in groups with other dogfishes. They have long jaws with low, flat, grinding teeth. They also possess a set of small and very sharp teeth. Population of dogfishes has declined sharply and hence it is illegal to kill them. However, in Britain and especially in the south of England, dogfishes are regarded as delicacy, mostly as a less costly alternative to cods.


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And another bit of worthless info: They have beautiful white flesh and taste very nice indeed, i've eaten a few as I wasn't going to carry them all the way home from the boat and throw them away.Big Grin
Hicky
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From Wiki ;

Some species of dogfish have been considered a nuisance by fishermen because their schooling behavior can lead to high bycatch, especially in trawl and longline fisheries.[1] Dogfish are commonly eaten in Britain, especially in the south of England, where they are a less expensive alternative to cod or plaice in fish and chip shops, and are traditionally called "huss". In other parts of the country (and increasingly in London) they are marketed as "rock salmon".

Care must be taken when handling spiny dogfish because of the two spines in front of both dorsal fins. Their skin is also abrasive, thus gloves are usually worn when handling live dogfish [2].

They are a pest to fishermen - worthless in fact,nobody wants them.
porto
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Originally posted by porto:


They are a pest to fishermen - worthless in fact,nobody wants them.


You also get spur dogs and nurse hounds around the coast. And yeah they are a pest. But it's a real shame to see thousands of them in boxes on the fish markets. All still alive as they just don't ever die. Just waiting to be sold for 2p a kilo. Yup 2p a kilo, and often just thrown away. The only real use is for crab fisherman to use as extra bait when they can't get any gurnards.

When I was at sea I always used to run up the deck and throw them back. I used to hate seeing them just left to die Frowner
langster
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Originally posted by langster:
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Originally posted by porto:


They are a pest to fishermen - worthless in fact,nobody wants them.


You also get spur dogs and nurse hounds around the coast. And yeah they are a pest. But it's a real shame to see thousands of them in boxes on the fish markets. All still alive as they just don't ever die. Just waiting to be sold for 2p a kilo. Yup 2p a kilo, and often just thrown away. The only real use is for crab fisherman to use as extra bait when they can't get any gurnards.

When I was at sea I always used to run up the deck and throw them back. I used to hate seeing them just left to die Frowner



This Government - and the numpties in Brussels , constantly tell us to preserve fish stocks - its a pity the Spanish Dutch and French dont listen .If i were a Minister ( who was fighting for fishermen - and NONE have ) I would say I am not throwing dead fish back into the sea when I have a ÂĢ12 million quid boat to pay for. My men need paid and the fish are dead anyway.
porto
I'm not getting in to fisherman/fishing politics on here LOL!

I will however state that although I agree about the French and Spanish fishermen problem, especially with their size differences and quotas, all fisherman are inherently greedy and often bring about their own problems. No thought for the future and most are driven by greed. And THE ABSOLUTE ONLY way to combat the fish stocks is by zonal fisheries. I.E. the areas are interchanged every two or three years and left to recover and must be patrolled to prevent any abuse. Otherwise they are fighting a losing battle. It works in Canada and it's how they sorted their dwindling fisheries problems.

But the 12 Million pound boats you are talking about are the big factory type vessles and imho a problem in their own right. I live next to Brixham the biggest fishing port in the UK, and the biggest boats are only about 120 feet in length with maximum 7 crew on board. On a bad week at sea I would earn maybe ÂĢ4/ÂĢ500 for a week at sea and on a good week you could earn about ÂĢ3000 for a week at sea. Obviously the skippers are on double the deckhands rate and they are all share fisherman who earn a percentage of the final sales of the catch and the owners always take 40% (some take more) and the rest goes on expenses. It is still a very profitable business, it just had to be downsized a bit and the number of boats reduced, which again imho is a good thing.
langster
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Originally posted by langster:
I'm not getting in to fisherman/fishing politics on here LOL!

I will however state that although I agree about the French and Spanish fishermen problem, especially with their size differences and quotas, all fisherman are inherently greedy and often bring about their own problems. No thought for the future and most are driven by greed. And THE ABSOLUTE ONLY way to combat the fish stocks is by zonal fisheries. I.E. the areas are interchanged every two or three years and left to recover and must be patrolled to prevent any abuse. Otherwise they are fighting a losing battle. It works in Canada and it's how they sorted their dwindling fisheries problems.

But the 12 Million pound boats you are talking about are the big factory type vessles and imho a problem in their own right. I live next to Brixham the biggest fishing port in the UK, and the biggest boats are only about 120 feet in length with maximum 7 crew on board. On a bad week at sea I would earn maybe ÂĢ4/ÂĢ500 for a week at sea and on a good week you could earn about ÂĢ3000 for a week at sea. Obviously the skippers are on double the deckhands rate and they are all share fisherman who earn a percentage of the final sales of the catch and the owners always take 40% (some take more) and the rest goes on expenses. It is still a very profitable business, it just had to be downsized a bit and the number of boats reduced, which again imho is a good thing.



http://www.worldfishingtoday.c.../pd265_lunar_bow.asp


NOT a factory type vessel.Big ,good men aboard
but chilled seawater tanks.
porto

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