He should be grateful they never set Paxo on him. Funny how the biggest bullies are always the ones to whine loudest when they get a taste of their own medicine.

Funny how that's in the Daily Hate Mail!

the world has gone completely mad

And the Daily Mail are the one's running the story. Quelle surprise.

That means the other 7 million plus viewers didn't support him, hopefully

Oh noes, the poor BNP are being persecuted again.... excuse me while I go and cry a river

hahahahahahahahahaha

HOw many complaints did Channel 4 get about Jade being a bully and racist?

Were they all from his party members?....

These words reminded me of lines from the song:
Cowboys Are Frequently Secretly Fond of Each Other


"And I believe to my soul that inside every man there's the feminine.
And inside every lady there's a deep manly voice loud and clear.
Well, a cowboy may brag about things that he's done with his women.
But the ones who brag loudest are the ones that are most likely queer."


Griffin almost choked on the word "homosexuality" last night.



The following is part of an article in The Guardian some time ago

http://www.guardian.co.uk/theo.../features.magazine37

"If Griffin's reform is not a ruse then it certainly has limits to its tolerance. In response to the protests following the Soho bomb planted by former BNP member David Copeland, Griffin wrote: 'The footage of dozens of "gay" demonstrators flaunting their perversion in front of the world's journalists showed just why so many ordinary people find these creatures so repulsive.'

Given this uncompromisingly aggressive attitude, I wonder how he was able to work so intimately with Martin Webster. Even by the eccentric standards of the far right, Webster stands out as a fascinating oddity, if for no other reason than that as leader of the violently homophobic NF, he was openly gay among fellow activists. Griffin was one of his closest lieutenants for three years.

'Erm,' Griffin pauses, 'it was uncomfortable sometimes. He'd come into the office and put his arm around you and give you a kiss on the cheek and you'd go "Yuck."'

He says he didn't protest because he was busy plotting against Webster. A couple of years ago, Webster claimed that he and Griffin had been lovers - something which Griffin, a father of four, vehemently denies.

He says the BNP's policy on homosexuality is no longer to recriminalise it, but instead to extend Clause 28 to encompass, among other things, the media. 'There's plenty of people making soap operas that present homosexuality as a wonderful lifestyle,' he explains, 'which as a matter of fact it very often isn't. But plenty of people promoting it are heterosexual. So if you fined or even imprisoned a BBC filmmaker for breaching those laws, then it's not persecuting a homosexual necessarily, it's persecuting someone for breaking those laws.'"


A man with such extreme views should expect strong reactions.

really the only thing I didn't like about QT last night was Jack Straw & him constantly saying my constituants & that Bonnie nobody preaching evolution. If that offends anyone...........

Yep, vile publication MUCK!

I wonder how many complaints are from within the BNP itself, or it's supporters, looking to help spin the aftermath in a certain direction....

How do you think we got here (humans, that is)?

Whinge, whinge, whinge...
Boohoohoo, the nasty BBC and those horrible London-ites.
Is it me, or is there some kind of poetic symmetry about Griffin complaining about being the victim of bullying, prejudice and supposition?
Cry me a river, slug-face..

From all that "begatting" in the bible.

weak, sniveling,gutless rabble rousing, smarmy vile cretinous  plank,

showed himself up to be  just what he is and now he wants to set the agenda so he can hide his repulsive policies and his repugnant self.

well tough titties  , yaaa booo sucks to yoooo.

I believe in God not evolution.

Well, they did gang up on him but he knew they would and he's so far from the other political parties and the other likely guests that it's to be expected.  It's like turning up in a clown suit to a funeral and wondering why people are staring and looking a bit disgruntled.

exactly & I like the clown suit line - classic

One extreme begets another extreme.
Yin Yang principle. The pendulum swings back.
His views are going to generate lots of anger and are not always going to be received in a placid fashion.
He must be very stupid not to realise that - so why complain?

They aren't necessarily mutually exclusive...but I guess that's a whole other debate.

But erm, well...I'm a bit stumped for what else to say

You don't need to believe in evolution, the evidence for it is so broad and overwhelming that you can pretty much consider it a fact.

And you can still keep your belief in a god at the same time.

Does that mean that we are all Middle Eastern immigrants?

Ah! Irish Jesus again!

Well, if English was good enough for Jesus then it's good enough for me.

I have an opinion & you lot are like a pack of wild dogs

I was actually thinking about Sarah Palin, not you...

The trouble is, people tend to pity the underdog.  He was the underdog last night.  That's why I felt it was silly to have him on (BBC being impartial) and then have a totally partial audience not letting him finish his answers.

OMG you are the people Nick Griffin warned us against  wiv your creepy Sarah Palin fixation!!1!!11!!11

Evening Leccy


On the subject of there being gay members of the BNP, there were several prominent Nazis who were either gay or had lifestyles that the Nazis persecuted in others.
Usual politico behaviour of don't do as I do, do as I say.

Oh and on the subject of poor ickle Thicky getting bullied, give me a moment to tune up

I watched QT last night and I do think that there was a mob mentality at play with regard to Nick Griffin.  Whether you abhor the BNP or not, on a human level it was unfair.  In the interests of fair play, there should have been a limit placed on the amount of flak levelled at this man.  It was plainly obvious that he was nervous, fearful and on edge, and his hands were visibly shaking.  My personal view is that there was a bullying aspect to the whole thing, wherein he wasn't granted the courtesy of giving his replies in full.  And as to why Bonnie Greer was invited to sit on the panel next to him, spouting her Americanised version of British thinking, beats me.   

One does not have to support the BNP to disagree with Nick Griffin's treatment.  I am Irish so my thinking is independent and neutral.

Extreme views will often beget extreme opposite views. A bit like the Yin Yang principle.
Mr Griffin, if he wants to be influential, cannot always be protected and given an audience of the `converted`.
If he has any common sense he will realise that he will attract flack.

Awwww, my heart bleeds for the man!

Veggie, your tiny violin pic reminded me of this boy we had in yr 6 last year with Aspergers.

If you said something to him and you wanted a little sympathy or pretend sympathy, he would always rub his thumb and fore finger together to play the pretend mini violin.

He was hilarious!

Hello Veggie!

hi brisket   I do agree with you that extreme views prompt an extreme reaction.  I don't know how many people were actually in the audience on QT, but Nick Griffin was on his own against this audience.  Whether you agree with his political thinking or not, I would say that one person pitted against an audience/mob is an unequal fight in any scenario and it is for that reason that I believe Nick Griffin was in a position whereby it could be perceived that he was being bullied.

Hi Twee

Depressing reading: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8322626.stm