I take your point YR.

All i'll say is Luke A just sulked and was moody throughout the show last year, Nadia was mean and shouted at everyone and Pete used the women in the house to stay in,  if HM's who didn't share the life stories of those 3 former winners behaved in just the same way those 3 did I dont think they would have won.

I dunno if its insulting or more just backing the underdog.

Wanting to help someone who may otherwise struggle with life.

Because the hm's you've mentioned won it's possible the majority of voters do want them to win because of their stories so in some ways you've proved your case lol. If their reasoning was based on so called pity I can't say I agree with it because because of the reasons I mentioned, but as they say it's the people's choice, whether this year it will be Sam or someone else

  oh well, Sam seems a nice lad on first impressions, lets hope he stays that way.

Early days/day but so far he seems nice, the weeks ahead will show if he really is

I think it will be Sam, so far.

Sam was on Deal or no Deal not long ago and  he did seem to get the pity vote on there and was trying to chat up the staff 

Blimey - so he's yet another determined RTV wannabe!

 that's what put me off him straight away

It's a shame that people 'assume' that someone will win automatically on the 'pity' vote. I don't believe that'pity' alone will win it. Verne Troyer, Steve (soldier) and Mikey didn't win ...........they weren't what people wanted from a 'winner'. If Sam happens to be a nice guy then his 'disability' might give him the edge over a fellow HM - if he proves to be an arse he won't win.

It really isn't a foregone conclusion. For what it's worth I think Nadia won because it became a JC v's Lip Gloss issue .....the vote was ridiculously skewed - Dan should have won that one hands down.

Just my opinion of course.

They all made it till near the end though as a lot of them won't nominate them for fear of looking bad 

I agree with you, Soozy, Dan ought to have won that year.

I also agree that disability/sob story isn't enough to hand you the winner's trophy, otherwise Mikey and Steve would have won in their particular years. Thank goodness, they didn't!

Nadia was an arse, Pete was a total arse and Luke A bitched his head off, throughout the show, they won.

Seeing his vt and interview with Emma tonight I thought Daley the boxer came across well. Still too early though to know what they're all really like, A strange mix of hm's this year, can't say I feel really connected to the show or hm's yet

Winner will be SAM.

Can't see that at all. Think he'll pee everyone off with his inappropriate, sexist comments. Sympathy for a 'disability' will only work if you're likeable ........really don't think he is - he's a bit of a plank.

Agree with you both - although can't comment on Dan because I only started watching towards the end of that series.  I was a late BB bloomer.

Noel would chew him up and spit him out.   If he's going to stay the course they need to put bromide in his tea.

Its got nothing to with sympathy, I don't feel any sympathy for him, he doesnt need it.

I simply think he's the most normal, least egotistical in there. He has personality and looks etc. The rest wouldn't spit on each other if they were on fire. All very 'me,me,me' types. As for his sexism .. he does need to reign that in, it's immature but Jemima isn't objecting is she?

And wash out his potty mouth....he's extremely immature, hard to believe he's considerably older than JacknJoe, Sophie and Wolfy and only a year younger than Gina and Hazel, he's behaving like a 7yr old who has just discovered 'naughty words'

Thing is he won't and hasn't....so far he's being an immature prick!

If I was pushed to choose a winner from launch night one I'd go Sophie or Wolfy....night two I'd go Daley

My picks exactly Soops. 

And I agree with everything you've said about Sam too. 

Also agree atm with all you mentioned

I think Sophie has a good chance but fear she will be overshadowed by the likes of Sallie 

Great pic Leah 

Sallie will stay in for a bit I think, but she'll annoy and upset people with her 'frankness' (aka nastiness.) Sophie, I think, will get stuck in to the tasks, be fun and pleasant and will be liked by others, so won't be at high risk of nominations....early days 'though, depends on what alliances are formed and what fauxmances develop

Yes, v funny

I think your about Sophie and the tasks, I think Sallie will get quite a few nominations for her "frankness" 

Some  rumours going around about the HM and their secrets.

Jemima is not female but male

Gina is not rich but skint

and the latest rumour Sallie/Dexter are an item.

When it comes to the rumour about Gina I can't believe that's true. If it is I think BB should tell the viewers because so far the public are probably judging her on who she says she is and her lifestyle, and if they dislike her for that she could be evicted for the wrong reasons...not sure I'm getting across what I mean lol.

Gina Rio was on a TV program about UK's most spoiled kids, and she's been in paper for it numerous times, she gets an allowance. I suspect she was invited to go on the show, hence her lack of preparedness for what awaits! Bet shes never even seen the show before.

Meanwhile ...

I think Sophie will chew Sallie up and spit her out.  Or should I say....

Spi' 'err ahhhhhtttt

Maybe not immediately but give her time.

Great caricature Leah

I'm also pretty sure that Gina's been in the papers re her lifestyle (or maybe someone very similar has).

You're right Cosi http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/ho...st-spoiled-girl.html

I really hope so ........I have high hopes for young Sophie.

How sad - I feel a bit sorry for her now..

She says: “I know I’m spoiled, but I need my parents to buy me things to prove they love me.

“My dad will buy me anything that I ask for to show me how much he cares.

“I think the most expensive item was a Hermes handbag which cost £20,000.

“When I found out that he’d bought his mistress a Hermes bag, I wanted to have one that was bigger and better.

“I wanted him to prove that he loved me more than her, because she’s horrid.

“He’s my dad at the end of the day and I’m always going to love him, but he’s chosen his new family over me.”

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/ho...l.html#ixzz2WKpxOqDW

It was Leah who reminded me, Supes.

After reading that link I'm selling my car

And, what is it with these girls/women/females - can't they find bras that fit??

Yet another one who can't distinguish between a man's love for his child and his love for his wife (be it 1st, 2nd or umpteenth one)