BB manufactured that entire situation to destroy Ben's standing and his friendships in the house

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SpiderMonkey

Why did BB say Pasta instead of Mario?
Why did BB say Sunshine instead of Sky?

BB singled out Ben for nomination chat when he was put in a position by BB where he needed to justify his private nomination. Having attempted in his typical blundering baffoon fashion to justify his actions, BB then called Ben to the Diary Room and instructed Ben clearly that the loss of water was entirely his fault.

Let's be clear about this. Shabby, Caoimhe, Govan and JJ were the housemates named by BB as rule breakers, however BB orchestrated and executed a plan to ensure that tonight's highlights would show Ben in the most negative light possible. Further more they successfully put strain on the various friendships he's built up over the past week.

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FairfaxMember

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however BB orchestrated and executed a plan to ensure that tonight's highlights would show Ben in the most negative light possible.

Spider I think so too.

Rotten thing to do especially the night before eviction

6/24/102:19 PM

BazMember VIP10 years

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Why did BB say Pasta instead of Mario? Why did BB say Sunshine instead of Sky?

I hadn't thought of that Spider...... but now you've pointed it out, you could be right. I just hope the GBP are astute enough to see through it, but I have my doubts

6/24/102:20 PM

Former Member

Agree Spider ,I hope the viewing public see this and NOT vote Ben out.

6/24/102:20 PM

BazMember VIP10 years

In retrospect they also showed just enough of it to do the damage, but not eough of it to let people see how nasty the others got.

6/24/102:21 PM

SpiderMonkeyMember

BB failed to show Govan saying "I'd never nominate Sunshine" while shouting at Ben. Not only was that further nomination chat which mysteriously went unpunished, but Govan was lying as he'd nominated Sunshine the same week as Ben did.

6/24/102:24 PM

Cold SweatMember 10 years

I did laugh when Ben tried to cut a deal with Big Brother so that nobody would find out. Seriously, by that point he was screwed...

BTW What part of the earlier warning had not been made clear enough for Ben?

6/24/102:28 PM

FairfaxMember

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but Govan was lying as he'd nominated Sunshine the same week as Ben did.

Yes, why wasn't that brought to light

So not fair

6/24/102:28 PM

darloboy (Play The Game!)Member

Problem is it looks bad for Ben because some viewers only watch the HL show, however Govan is definetly going tomorrow but you never know.

I do feel for Ben because the house is now against him

, then I feel he's brought it all on himself doing his own bitching and digs the hole deeper...

6/24/102:33 PM

SpiderMonkeyMember

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BTW What part of the earlier warning had not been made clear enough for Ben

He was stitched up by BB. He could either say nothing, and allow his haters to revell in what's been revealed, and his friends distance themselves, or he could at least try, having been put on the spot, to try to justify his nominations and salvage the few friendships he has in the house. This is what he tried to do, and in typical Ben style, he completely blundered it.

Remember that Ben wasn't the one who'd discussed nominations and lost the house their luxury budget. The guilty housemates were named as Govan, JJ, Shabby and Caoimhe. However BB chose to reveal that Ben "very likely nominated Sunshine". None of the guilty housemates had the details of their nominations broadcast.

6/24/102:34 PM

FairfaxMember

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However BB chose to reveal that Ben "very likely nominated Sunshine". None of the guilty housemates had the details of their nominations broadcast.

Spider thats whats made me hopping mad

6/24/102:36 PM

jononoMember

even if they are who cares? We all know it's edited, it's a tv show, not life and death and if you're daft enough to discuss it then you know they can use it. Bring it on I say!

6/24/102:36 PM

KayteeMember 10 years

I really felt tonight that BB was manipulating the edit to show Ben in the worst possible light...others were involved in that noms discussion and they appear to have escaped condemnation, poor Ben copped the lot.
As for the public vote...I think it'll be Dave for the chop, although I would love the GBP to give Gollum the heave ho

6/24/102:37 PM

FairfaxMember

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Bring it on I say!

Bring what on

6/24/102:37 PM

Cold SweatMember 10 years

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Remember that Ben wasn't the one who'd discussed nominations and lost the house their luxury budget. The guilty housemates were named as Govan, JJ, Shabby and Caoimhe. However BB chose to reveal that Ben "very likely nominated Sunshine". None of the guilty housemates had the details of their nominations broadcast.

Had the discussion between Ben and Shabby regarding his week one nominations been punished at some earlier time then?

6/24/102:41 PM

Former Member

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Bring it on I say!

Bring what on

The Fat Fiercesome Sausage?

6/24/102:43 PM

SpiderMonkeyMember

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if you're daft enough to discuss it

I don't understand your point. If this wasn't a BB forum then maybe I would.

6/24/102:43 PM

Cold SweatMember 10 years

Shabby was named by BB with involvement to both incidents and will almost certainly be nominated for a 3rd week running - and is far less popular than Ben. Ben has nothing to worry about for many weeks imo

6/24/102:44 PM

SpiderMonkeyMember

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Had the discussion between Ben and Shabby regarding his week one nominations been punished at some earlier time then?

We never got to hear the contents of that conversation so it would be complete conjecture either way to have an opinion on whether they broke the rules regarding nomination chat.

6/24/102:45 PM

PrometheusMember

I don't know why this is an issue. BB are clearly fixing it to put Ben in the worst possible light but the real issue is that they never intervene when Ben is ganged up on by the others. He's vulnerable and needs protection. Instead BB set up a task that makes him think he is accepted by Shabby so he feels more at ease knowing how upset he'll be when he finds it. This years BB producers are morally bankrupt.

6/24/102:54 PM

jacksonbMember

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I did laugh when Ben tried to cut a deal with Big Brother so that nobody would find out.

and then went out and blabbed to the first person he bumped into...

6/24/102:54 PM

jacksonbMember

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BB are clearly fixing it to put Ben in the worst possible light

just like they are doing everything to keep shabby in show...

6/24/102:55 PM

FairfaxMember

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He's vulnerable and needs protection. Instead BB set up a task that makes him think he is accepted by Shabby so he feels more at ease knowing how upset he'll be when he finds it. This years BB producers are morally bankrupt.

Prom, thats the part that I find difficult.Its just plain wrong

6/24/102:55 PM

SpiderMonkeyMember

Taken from the BB website:

Despite there being some booze in the House and the other housemates letting their hair down, Ben has decided to opt for another deep and meaningful with Dave.
The gossiping duo are back in the same bed discussing Ben’s time in the House and tomorrow’s eviction. Dave has said that he thinks Govan will go. Ben said that Govan’s behaviour today made him feel ill, ‘what almost made me sick today was the way he was fussing around Sunshine. He knew she was peeved with me and saw it as a chance to score points against us. It was sickening.’

Ben confessed to Dave that he thinks they are both ‘internalizers’ and that if they do both stay how will they cope with the other people in the House. Dave reassured him by telling him that by taking it one day at a time is often the way...

Poor bugger is not having a very enjoyable BB experience. Worried more about the implications of staying than going. That's got to be wrong to feel like that...

6/24/103:03 PM

Blizz'ardMember 10 years

Hmmm, I thought BB said that the various housemates had been discussing whether it was likely that Ben nominated Sunshine.

I think they could reasonably assume that the housemates having the discussion would be turned on. Amazing that that didn't happen!

6/24/103:56 PM

kimotaMember 10 years

I don't think BB would want Ben out at this stage as along with Shabby he is the 'biggest charater' in the house and we know how BB love their 'characters'. On the other hand they were deliberately stirring it in the house and Ben got the worst of it.

6/25/105:30 AM

AmythistMember 10 years

He has been shafted.

But I want to see Govan go...it will be real close between them

6/25/105:41 AM

squiggleMember 10 years

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Let's be clear about this. Shabby, Caoimhe, Govan and JJ were the housemates named by BB as rule breakers, however BB orchestrated and executed a plan to ensure that tonight's highlights would show Ben in the most negative light possible. Further more they successfully put strain on the various friendships he's built up over the past week.

I totally agree and have just started a similar thread having caught up with the highlights just now. Sorry but I don't think it clashes with your thread which I didn't realise was there. I was just purely so boiling angry having watched it and seen everyone blaming Ben for something that horrible group of people you mention were guilty of.

6/25/105:42 AM

BazMember VIP10 years

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The gossiping duo are back

Very interesting turn of phrase from C4..... quite pejorative...... while they described Shabby the other day as the Devious Charmer...... well I guess they got one word right!

6/25/105:42 AM

squiggleMember 10 years

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BB are clearly fixing it to put Ben in the worst possible light but the real issue is that they never intervene when Ben is ganged up on by the others. He's vulnerable and needs protection. Instead BB set up a task that makes him think he is accepted by Shabby so he feels more at ease knowing how upset he'll be when he finds it. This years BB producers are morally bankrupt.

Oh you've got that spot on

6/25/105:44 AM

brisketMember Memoriam

Whatever tricks and bias BB try to pull, doesn't alter the fact that viewers can see it and most of us (said modestly) are not daft!
Their attempt at influence will not work.

6/25/105:49 AM

longcatMember

But they had already nominated him before all the code and BB stuff had happened. He received the most nominations this week.

6/25/105:54 AM

DemantoidMember

If he really was as naive and vulnerable as people seem to think, he wouldn't be capable of going down the road for a paper, never mind working for one or doing TV election coverage.

6/25/105:59 AM

BazMember VIP10 years

I think he is probably more than capable when in his own environment Deman, but is totally out of his depth with the likes of Shabby & Co.... and just doesn't have enough *nastiness* in him to be able to deal with it. What he should have done is told her, and JJ in no uncertain term where to get off, and then ignored them! Instead of which it has fed into his obvious insecurities, and is therefore forever seeking re-assurance and approval.

6/25/106:09 AM

DemantoidMember

He can not have reached the age of 30 and worked in the media without ever having met - or had to deal with - any unpleasant people before. Sorry, I just don't buy it.

6/25/106:13 AM

BazMember VIP10 years

Yes, he probably has.... but in the outside world, like I think he once said, you can get away from them...... unlike in the House.....and he is obviously useless at confrontation

Plus I am not sure he has got over the booing when he went in, which really shook him.

6/25/106:19 AM

brisketMember Memoriam

In a chat between Ben and Mario the other night Mario said something about their different attitudes to BB which I thought was interesting.
He pointed out that Ben was persuaded to do BB, and treats it quite like a game.
But Mario said that he (Mario) had such a passion for it and wanted to do it for a long time. He said this also applied to a number of other housemates who treat BB much more like reality.
He was comparing the 'game' versus 'reality/real life' approaches to BB, and I see his point.

6/25/106:21 AM

DemantoidMember

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Plus I am not sure he has got over the booing when he went in, which really shook him.

Diddums

Loads of people have been booed on the way in (Lea even got her own pee-taking thread about it), but they're generally expected to snap out of it and stop whinging.
We all know that crowd would boo each other if they were told to, it's hardly the considered verdict of 12 good men and true.

6/25/106:26 AM

Blizz'ardMember 10 years

Indeed, brisket, and Ben does remind me a bit of Nasty Nick, in that they think it is a 'just' a game and also that they are allowed to ignore the rules.
They forget that the public don't like rule breakers and that it is a popularity contest.

6/25/106:26 AM

DemantoidMember

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Ben does remind me a bit of Nasty Nick

Me too, actually

6/25/106:27 AM

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