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Originally posted by Gel:
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Originally posted by Demantoid:
But at least Paddy can decide for himself when he's older whether he still wants to be called it.


True Big Grin

Wow, thinking about it, I guess little paddy must now be in his mid teens Eeker

And I bet he doesn't let his mates call him Paddy Big Grin
It's a pet hate of mine, this fashion for giving kids daft versions of real names.
I've got a very classic, trad name but my family always shortened it to a 'cutesy' version when I was little.
Fine when I was a toddler, but I'm glad I had the option to use the proper version when I grew up!

I wish we had the same rule as the French - over there, you're not allowed to name your kids shortened or pet versions of real names. You can call them it, but their birth certificate must have the proper version.
Demantoid
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Originally posted by Demantoid:
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Originally posted by Gel:
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Originally posted by Demantoid:
But at least Paddy can decide for himself when he's older whether he still wants to be called it.


True Big Grin

Wow, thinking about it, I guess little paddy must now be in his mid teens Eeker

And I bet he doesn't let his mates call him Paddy Big Grin
It's a pet hate of mine, this fashion for giving kids daft versions of real names.
I've got a very classic, trad name but my family always shortened it to a 'cutesy' version when I was little.
Fine when I was a toddler, but I'm glad I had the option to use the proper version when I grew up!

I wish we had the same rule as the French - over there, you're not allowed to name your kids shortened or pet versions of real names. You can call them it, but their birth certificate must have the proper version.


I didn't know that, interesting Nod

I couldn't abide my name when growing up, but then I always insisted people call me by the full version, until I reached my early 20's I got fed up of asking people to use my full name, couldn't be bothered anymore Roll Eyes Big Grin

So Gel stuck! Big Grin
Gel
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Originally posted by Ella:
Ella Nod

If that fails then maybe: Rebecca, Olivia, Amber (my fav), Ellie, Ava
For boys: Matthew, Jamie, Morgan, Daniel, ermm....I'm all out Laugh Boys names are much harder for some reason!


Urgghhhh! Ellie? What's it short for - Elliephant?

Ellie is NOT a real name, it's short for Elizabeth, Eleanor, Elspeth, etc.
I'd ban every Ellie, Millie, Tilly etc from the planet if I could Big Grin
Demantoid
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Originally posted by Demantoid:
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Originally posted by Ella:
Ella Nod

If that fails then maybe: Rebecca, Olivia, Amber (my fav), Ellie, Ava
For boys: Matthew, Jamie, Morgan, Daniel, ermm....I'm all out Laugh Boys names are much harder for some reason!


Urgghhhh! Ellie? What's it short for - Elliephant?

Ellie is NOT a real name, it's short for Elizabeth, Eleanor, Elspeth, etc.
I'd ban every Ellie, Millie, Tilly etc from the planet if I could Big Grin


Mad Ellie is a nice name! There's are laods of names which are a variation of a 'real' name. Most 'real' names are a variation of another and so on Razzer

My name is Ellie. Ninja
Ells
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Originally posted by Demantoid:
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Ellie is a nice name! There's are laods of names which are a variation of a 'real' name. Most 'real' names are a variation of another and so on

My name is Ellie.

That's not true - but you have my sympathy Wink


I'm lying, that's not my name Laugh
But if we had to all stick with the basic names of Elizabeth, Margaret, Catherine and so on it would be tedious. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with those names (they are the names of family btw) but to keep up with the times they need to vary a little.
Ells
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Originally posted by Ella:
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Originally posted by Demantoid:
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Ellie is a nice name! There's are laods of names which are a variation of a 'real' name. Most 'real' names are a variation of another and so on

My name is Ellie.

That's not true - but you have my sympathy Wink


I'm lying, that's not my name Laugh
But if we had to all stick with the basic names of Elizabeth, Margaret, Catherine and so on it would be tedious. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with those names (they are the names of family btw) but to keep up with the times they need to vary a little.

I have one of those names Nod
My family used to shorten it when I was little, and I grew up hating that. Now I use the full version and I love it.
I've seen new babies with my name, and very old women. I don't think it needs to 'move with the times' because it's a classic that suits all ages.

Names that 'move with the times' do no such thing in reality - what really happens is they 'date' very quickly. Nod
Demantoid
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Originally posted by Demantoid:
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Originally posted by Ella:
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Originally posted by Demantoid:
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Ellie is a nice name! There's are laods of names which are a variation of a 'real' name. Most 'real' names are a variation of another and so on

My name is Ellie.

That's not true - but you have my sympathy Wink


I'm lying, that's not my name Laugh
But if we had to all stick with the basic names of Elizabeth, Margaret, Catherine and so on it would be tedious. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with those names (they are the names of family btw) but to keep up with the times they need to vary a little.

I have one of those names Nod
My family used to shorten it when I was little, and I grew up hating that. Now I use the full version and I love it.
I've seen new babies with my name, and very old women. I don't think it needs to 'move with the times' because it's a classic that suits all ages.

Names that 'move with the times' do no such thing in reality - what really happens is they 'date' very quickly. Nod


Agree to disagree Thumbs Up While some 'older' names (meaning they have been around longer) are classics a lot are dated. Some new names are ridiculous and hopefully don't stay around too long. I think there's a nice mix out there but wish parents would think of how the name suits both a baby and older person before they decide.

While we're on this subject does anyone know where the name Nellie came from? Is it shortened from something? Confused
Ells
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Originally posted by Ella:
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Originally posted by Demantoid:
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Originally posted by Ella:
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Originally posted by Demantoid:
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Ellie is a nice name! There's are laods of names which are a variation of a 'real' name. Most 'real' names are a variation of another and so on

My name is Ellie.

That's not true - but you have my sympathy Wink


I'm lying, that's not my name Laugh
But if we had to all stick with the basic names of Elizabeth, Margaret, Catherine and so on it would be tedious. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with those names (they are the names of family btw) but to keep up with the times they need to vary a little.

I have one of those names Nod
My family used to shorten it when I was little, and I grew up hating that. Now I use the full version and I love it.
I've seen new babies with my name, and very old women. I don't think it needs to 'move with the times' because it's a classic that suits all ages.

Names that 'move with the times' do no such thing in reality - what really happens is they 'date' very quickly. Nod


Agree to disagree Thumbs Up While some 'older' names (meaning they have been around longer) are classics a lot are dated. Some new names are ridiculous and hopefully don't stay around too long. I think there's a nice mix out there but wish parents would think of how the name suits both a baby and older person before they decide.

While we're on this subject does anyone know where the name Nellie came from? Is it shortened from something? Confused


nellie is helen
china
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Originally posted by Ella:
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Originally posted by Demantoid:
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Originally posted by Ella:
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Originally posted by Demantoid:
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Ellie is a nice name! There's are laods of names which are a variation of a 'real' name. Most 'real' names are a variation of another and so on

My name is Ellie.

That's not true - but you have my sympathy Wink


I'm lying, that's not my name Laugh
But if we had to all stick with the basic names of Elizabeth, Margaret, Catherine and so on it would be tedious. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with those names (they are the names of family btw) but to keep up with the times they need to vary a little.

I have one of those names Nod
My family used to shorten it when I was little, and I grew up hating that. Now I use the full version and I love it.
I've seen new babies with my name, and very old women. I don't think it needs to 'move with the times' because it's a classic that suits all ages.

Names that 'move with the times' do no such thing in reality - what really happens is they 'date' very quickly. Nod


Agree to disagree Thumbs Up While some 'older' names (meaning they have been around longer) are classics a lot are dated. Some new names are ridiculous and hopefully don't stay around too long. I think there's a nice mix out there but wish parents would think of how the name suits both a baby and older person before they decide.

While we're on this subject does anyone know where the name Nellie came from? Is it shortened from something? Confused

It's from Elizabeth Nod
I think that name's got more diminutives than just about any other - Liz, Lizzie, Lilibet, Beth, Betsy, Bess, Bessie, Ellie, Eliza (I like that one), Lil, etc....
Demantoid
I was almost called Nellie or Sophia Disappointed I would most definitly have begged my mum to give me the real version of the name had I been called Nellie. Sophia is a nice enough name but when you're northern Irish it doesn't sound anything like Sophia (loren) more like Sa-via Sick Thankfully my mum told her aunt she wouldn't be calling me after her because my dad wanted me to be named after his mum (Sophia). My dad's sister had her daughter 4 weeks early and stole the name Laugh Thankfully I got 'Laura' which I don't particularly like but it could have been worse Laugh
Ells
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Originally posted by china:
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Originally posted by Demantoid:
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Originally posted by china:
i thought nellie was from helen Confused

Nope - Nell Gwynn was really an Elizabeth


ok-but william is a lovely name


William is a fine name as long as it's not shortened to Willy. My OH has an uncle Willy and the kids find it strange to call him that. Not as strange as the time I talked to my mates uncle in town and said See you later *abbrveiation of Richard* Disappointed
Ells
I think picking names is a really tough decision as it is such a responsibility. Personally, I like very traditional old names, perferably English or Welsh, because that reflects my own background. We're thinking Nathanial Edward or Nathanial Ellis for a boy but we'll call him Ned as a nickname. Girls names are proving harder for us but so far Harriet, Hermione, Elizabeth, Eleanor and Betrys are on the list. I know a lot of people hate these names, I've been told I'm being snobby and boring and my mum keeps telling us we still have time to change our minds (to something that she likes ie Tilly or Mary Jane Roll Eyes) and other people keep offering up suggestions which I think are awful. Everyone will have an opinion on what you call your baby, I think you should just pick something that means something to you and that you think will be a fitting introduction for your child. My step siblings all have 'different' names, Barnabus, Thadaeus, Tryphena and Damaris. All of them have said that they wished they had something more normal sounding. At the same time, my goddaughters are called Ella and Megan, along with dozens of other little girls in their classes and playgroups, and their parents now regret picking names that were pretty but just too popular. What about family names? Is there something in your family tree that would be appropriate?
Queen of the High Teas
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Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:
I think picking names is a really tough decision as it is such a responsibility. Personally, I like very traditional old names, perferably English or Welsh, because that reflects my own background. We're thinking Nathanial Edward or Nathanial Ellis for a boy but we'll call him Ned as a nickname. Girls names are proving harder for us but so far Harriet, Hermione, Elizabeth, Eleanor and Betrys are on the list. I know a lot of people hate these names, I've been told I'm being snobby and boring and my mum keeps telling us we still have time to change our minds (to something that she likes ie Tilly or Mary Jane Roll Eyes) and other people keep offering up suggestions which I think are awful. Everyone will have an opinion on what you call your baby, I think you should just pick something that means something to you and that you think will be a fitting introduction for your child. My step siblings all have 'different' names, Barnabus, Thadaeus, Tryphena and Damaris. All of them have said that they wished they had something more normal sounding. At the same time, my goddaughters are called Ella and Megan, along with dozens of other little girls in their classes and playgroups, and their parents now regret picking names that were pretty but just too popular. What about family names? Is there something in your family tree that would be appropriate?


Eleanor is lovely. I'm sorry but I hate your mothers ideas.
PuppyDooDoo
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Originally posted by PuppyDooDoo:
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Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:
I think picking names is a really tough decision as it is such a responsibility. Personally, I like very traditional old names, perferably English or Welsh, because that reflects my own background. We're thinking Nathanial Edward or Nathanial Ellis for a boy but we'll call him Ned as a nickname. Girls names are proving harder for us but so far Harriet, Hermione, Elizabeth, Eleanor and Betrys are on the list. I know a lot of people hate these names, I've been told I'm being snobby and boring and my mum keeps telling us we still have time to change our minds (to something that she likes ie Tilly or Mary Jane Roll Eyes) and other people keep offering up suggestions which I think are awful. Everyone will have an opinion on what you call your baby, I think you should just pick something that means something to you and that you think will be a fitting introduction for your child. My step siblings all have 'different' names, Barnabus, Thadaeus, Tryphena and Damaris. All of them have said that they wished they had something more normal sounding. At the same time, my goddaughters are called Ella and Megan, along with dozens of other little girls in their classes and playgroups, and their parents now regret picking names that were pretty but just too popular. What about family names? Is there something in your family tree that would be appropriate?


Eleanor is lovely. I'm sorry but I hate your mothers ideas.

Agree Nod
I knew someone who had two kids called Natalie and Nathaniel (think it's usually spelled with an 'e' before the 'l').
And another lot whose two were called Tabitha and Tobias Big Grin
Demantoid
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Originally posted by PuppyDooDoo:
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Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:
I think picking names is a really tough decision as it is such a responsibility. Personally, I like very traditional old names, perferably English or Welsh, because that reflects my own background. We're thinking Nathanial Edward or Nathanial Ellis for a boy but we'll call him Ned as a nickname. Girls names are proving harder for us but so far Harriet, Hermione, Elizabeth, Eleanor and Betrys are on the list. I know a lot of people hate these names, I've been told I'm being snobby and boring and my mum keeps telling us we still have time to change our minds (to something that she likes ie Tilly or Mary Jane Roll Eyes) and other people keep offering up suggestions which I think are awful. Everyone will have an opinion on what you call your baby, I think you should just pick something that means something to you and that you think will be a fitting introduction for your child. My step siblings all have 'different' names, Barnabus, Thadaeus, Tryphena and Damaris. All of them have said that they wished they had something more normal sounding. At the same time, my goddaughters are called Ella and Megan, along with dozens of other little girls in their classes and playgroups, and their parents now regret picking names that were pretty but just too popular. What about family names? Is there something in your family tree that would be appropriate?


Eleanor is lovely. I'm sorry but I hate your mothers ideas.


Don't be sorry, I hate her ideas too. Big Grin
Queen of the High Teas

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