Turner Prize 2015
Glasgow
Is placing fur coats on chairs art?
Discuss.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34404547
Turner Prize 2015
Glasgow
Is placing fur coats on chairs art?
Discuss.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34404547
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NO
I've not read the synopsis so I don't know whether it's real or fake. Hope it's not real.
It probably is real but it's not art. When I think of art I think of pics to hang on the wall
Is it art? Yes, definitely.
The real question, however, is "Is it good art?"
(And I think it's safe to say that everyone on this board will be very certain on where they stand on that one, too... )
Is it art? Yes, definitely.
The real question, however, is "Is it good art?"
(And I think it's safe to say that everyone on this board will be very certain on where they stand on that one, too... )
I have to disagree. It's not good art either, IMO. It's just not art as I know it
Is it art? Yes, definitely.
The real question, however, is "Is it good art?"
(And I think it's safe to say that everyone on this board will be very certain on where they stand on that one, too... )
Is it art? Yes, definitely.
The real question, however, is "Is it good art?"
(And I think it's safe to say that everyone on this board will be very certain on where they stand on that one, too... )
I have to disagree. It's not good art either, IMO. It's just not art as I know it
This is more like it, healthy debate
Is it art? Yes, definitely.
The real question, however, is "Is it good art?"
(And I think it's safe to say that everyone on this board will be very certain on where they stand on that one, too... )
Is it art? Yes, definitely.
The real question, however, is "Is it good art?"
(And I think it's safe to say that everyone on this board will be very certain on where they stand on that one, too... )
I have to disagree. It's not good art either, IMO. It's just not art as I know it
This is more like it, healthy debate
I could leave me sitting room and dining room as it is now, take a photo and get peeps involved and call it art.....it's not....it's just general laziness
What's everyone's depiction of art?
The questions I have are, is the posted picture itself 'art'? is the placement of the chairs 'art'? are the coats themselves 'art'?
To the 'artist' Syd, I guess they are.....hence my question....what does everyone think of as art?
What's everyone's depiction of art?
Something that takes a degree of skill
The questions I have are, is the posted picture itself 'art'? is the placement of the chairs 'art'? are the coats themselves 'art'?
The installation itself is a representation of something the artist is interested in and finds in common practice everywhere.
I would suspect that without the artist describing the influence for the piece - no one would actually have guessed.
What gets me is there is a hefty prize for the winner of the Turner prize.
Would I get the same recognition/acceptance if I were to rock up with a line of bottles of wine increasing in number alongside a line of apples decreasing in number until there is one apple where the largest number of bottles are. The whole installation being brightly lit at the beginning where there is one wine bottle and lots of apples and in shadow at the end where there is one apple and a large number of bottles?
Is it art? Yes, definitely.
The real question, however, is "Is it good art?"
(And I think it's safe to say that everyone on this board will be very certain on where they stand on that one, too... )
Is it art? Yes, definitely.
The real question, however, is "Is it good art?"
(And I think it's safe to say that everyone on this board will be very certain on where they stand on that one, too... )
I have to disagree. It's not good art either, IMO. It's just not art as I know it
This is more like it, healthy debate
I could leave me sitting room and dining room as it is now, take a photo and get peeps involved and call it art.....it's not....it's just general laziness
Oh, I think you're selling yourself short. You've the imagination and creativity to think that up - that's one definition of "art". The difference however is that an artist would go ahead and actually do it. Is that laziness?
The questions I have are, is the posted picture itself 'art'? is the placement of the chairs 'art'? are the coats themselves 'art'?
The installation itself is a representation of something the artist is interested in and finds in common practice everywhere.
I would suspect that without the artist describing the influence for the piece - no one would actually have guessed.
What gets me is there is a hefty prize for the winner of the Turner prize.
Would I get the same recognition/acceptance if I were to rock up with a line of bottles of wine increasing in number alongside a line of apples decreasing in number until there is one apple where the largest number of bottles are. The whole installation being brightly lit at the beginning where there is one wine bottle and lots of apples and in shadow at the end where there is one apple and a large number of bottles?
Try it and see where you get you never know, given what they've accepted in the past....an unmade bed?
Hey Up!
Long time no speak - you been away for a hol?
Hey up yourself I got back last night.
I suppose the 'art' is not the traditional art that we're used to. I remember how as a kid I'd spend hours browsing around The National Gallery and feeling all kinds of emotions...mainly depressed as most of the displays were of war/battles or religious scenes.
The same mood applied when I was in the Louvre although I really did like the sculptures. I suppose I'm a traditionalist - or heathen I just happen to like and appreciate my art when it's what I consider beautiful or emotionally engaging.
I'd jump in a heartbeat to stroll around with Andrew Graham Dixon and let him explain the details of whatever we were viewing at the time though
I could leave me sitting room and dining room as it is now, take a photo and get peeps involved and call it art.....it's not....it's just general laziness
Oh, I think you're selling yourself short. You've the imagination and creativity to think that up - that's one definition of "art". The difference however is that an artist would go ahead and actually do it. Is that laziness?
Touche'
The questions I have are, is the posted picture itself 'art'? is the placement of the chairs 'art'? are the coats themselves 'art'?
The installation itself is a representation of something the artist is interested in and finds in common practice everywhere.
I would suspect that without the artist describing the influence for the piece - no one would actually have guessed.
What gets me is there is a hefty prize for the winner of the Turner prize.
Would I get the same recognition/acceptance if I were to rock up with a line of bottles of wine increasing in number alongside a line of apples decreasing in number until there is one apple where the largest number of bottles are. The whole installation being brightly lit at the beginning where there is one wine bottle and lots of apples and in shadow at the end where there is one apple and a large number of bottles?
Would there be a loo with an overhead cistern at the end of your exhibit EC? If so, I would recognise and accept this as 'art'......
The questions I have are, is the posted picture itself 'art'? is the placement of the chairs 'art'? are the coats themselves 'art'?
The installation itself is a representation of something the artist is interested in and finds in common practice everywhere.
I would suspect that without the artist describing the influence for the piece - no one would actually have guessed.
Actually, on seeing the OP I had a guess at what the artist was at, and after reading the BBC's blurb it turns out I was right!
(I was going by my knowledge of how artists often "think", and my own personal experiences (I'm one of those people who leave their jacket on the chair in the office to let everyone know I'm still around. )
Would I get the same recognition/acceptance if I were to rock up with a line of bottles of wine increasing in number alongside a line of apples decreasing in number until there is one apple where the largest number of bottles are. The whole installation being brightly lit at the beginning where there is one wine bottle and lots of apples and in shadow at the end where there is one apple and a large number of bottles?
That would depend on whether the viewer was a wino or a greengrocer.
Hey Up!
Long time no speak - you been away for a hol?
Hey up yourself I got back last night.
I suppose the 'art' is not the traditional art that we're used to. I remember how as a kid I'd spend hours browsing around The National Gallery and feeling all kinds of emotions...mainly depressed as most of the displays were of war/battles or religious scenes.
The same mood applied when I was in the Louvre although I really did like the sculptures. I suppose I'm a traditionalist - or heathen I just happen to like and appreciate my art when it's what I consider beautiful or emotionally engaging.
I'd jump in a heartbeat to stroll around with Andrew Graham Dixon and let him explain the details of whatever we were viewing at the time though
For what I know about art.....me too
The questions I have are, is the posted picture itself 'art'? is the placement of the chairs 'art'? are the coats themselves 'art'?
The installation itself is a representation of something the artist is interested in and finds in common practice everywhere.
I would suspect that without the artist describing the influence for the piece - no one would actually have guessed.
Actually, on seeing the OP I had a guess at what the artist was at, and after reading the BBC's blurb it turns out I was right!
(I was going by my knowledge of how artists often "think", and my own personal experiences (I'm one of those people who leave their jacket on the chair in the office to let everyone know I'm still around. )
Or a towel on a lounger at the beach Eugene now that is art......
The questions I have are, is the posted picture itself 'art'? is the placement of the chairs 'art'? are the coats themselves 'art'?
The installation itself is a representation of something the artist is interested in and finds in common practice everywhere.
I would suspect that without the artist describing the influence for the piece - no one would actually have guessed.
Actually, on seeing the OP I had a guess at what the artist was at, and after reading the BBC's blurb it turns out I was right!
(I was going by my knowledge of how artists often "think", and my own personal experiences (I'm one of those people who leave their jacket on the chair in the office to let everyone know I'm still around. )
Or a towel on a lounger at the beach Eugene now that is art......
You're being silly now Sydlers!
The questions I have are, is the posted picture itself 'art'? is the placement of the chairs 'art'? are the coats themselves 'art'?
The installation itself is a representation of something the artist is interested in and finds in common practice everywhere.
I would suspect that without the artist describing the influence for the piece - no one would actually have guessed.
What gets me is there is a hefty prize for the winner of the Turner prize.
Would I get the same recognition/acceptance if I were to rock up with a line of bottles of wine increasing in number alongside a line of apples decreasing in number until there is one apple where the largest number of bottles are. The whole installation being brightly lit at the beginning where there is one wine bottle and lots of apples and in shadow at the end where there is one apple and a large number of bottles?
Try it and see where you get you never know, given what they've accepted in the past....an unmade bed?
Ah yes - that bed...
All I'll say here is that a while back I went with a friend to see Charles Saatchi's collection of YBA art. We knew we'd be seeing Emin's Unmade Bed, and we weren't expecting to get much out of it. As it turned out, however, we both found it surprisingly moving.
I should stress that it wasn't the bed that we found moving (it's just a bed with rubbish strewn around it), but rather the story behind it: Emin had been on a massive bender in the midst of serious depression and relationship difficulties. The experience was so important to her that she tried to preserve it...
The questions I have are, is the posted picture itself 'art'? is the placement of the chairs 'art'? are the coats themselves 'art'?
The installation itself is a representation of something the artist is interested in and finds in common practice everywhere.
I would suspect that without the artist describing the influence for the piece - no one would actually have guessed.
What gets me is there is a hefty prize for the winner of the Turner prize.
Would I get the same recognition/acceptance if I were to rock up with a line of bottles of wine increasing in number alongside a line of apples decreasing in number until there is one apple where the largest number of bottles are. The whole installation being brightly lit at the beginning where there is one wine bottle and lots of apples and in shadow at the end where there is one apple and a large number of bottles?
Try it and see where you get you never know, given what they've accepted in the past....an unmade bed?
Ah yes - that bed...
All I'll say here is that a while back I went with a friend to see Charles Saatchi's collection of YBA art. We knew we'd be seeing Emin's Unmade Bed, and we weren't expecting to get much out of it. As it turned out, however, we both found it surprisingly moving.
I should stress that it wasn't the bed that we found moving (it's just a bed with rubbish strewn around it), but rather the story behind it: Emin had been on a massive bender in the midst of serious depression and relationship difficulties. The experience was so important to her that she tried to preserve it...
But that hadn't come out in the scheme of things...it was just simply an unmade bed *shrugs* surely that's one person's perception of life, not art?
The questions I have are, is the posted picture itself 'art'? is the placement of the chairs 'art'? are the coats themselves 'art'?
The installation itself is a representation of something the artist is interested in and finds in common practice everywhere.
I would suspect that without the artist describing the influence for the piece - no one would actually have guessed.
What gets me is there is a hefty prize for the winner of the Turner prize.
Would I get the same recognition/acceptance if I were to rock up with a line of bottles of wine increasing in number alongside a line of apples decreasing in number until there is one apple where the largest number of bottles are. The whole installation being brightly lit at the beginning where there is one wine bottle and lots of apples and in shadow at the end where there is one apple and a large number of bottles?
Try it and see where you get you never know, given what they've accepted in the past....an unmade bed?
Ah yes - that bed...
All I'll say here is that a while back I went with a friend to see Charles Saatchi's collection of YBA art. We knew we'd be seeing Emin's Unmade Bed, and we weren't expecting to get much out of it. As it turned out, however, we both found it surprisingly moving.
I should stress that it wasn't the bed that we found moving (it's just a bed with rubbish strewn around it), but rather the story behind it: Emin had been on a massive bender in the midst of serious depression and relationship difficulties. The experience was so important to her that she tried to preserve it...
But the image does not work in and of itself without the 'words'.
To the 'artist' Syd, I guess they are.....hence my question....what does everyone think of as art?
I was once at a talk with Jake Chapman, and a self-important young lad at the front asked him "What is art?".
Jake replied "Art is what is made by artists."
The bloke in the audience then bit and asked the next obvious question: "So what is an artist?"
"Artists are people who make art", replied Jake.
By this stage the young lad was in a right old tizzy, but I have to say that I (and most of the audience) was with Jake Chapman!
To the 'artist' Syd, I guess they are.....hence my question....what does everyone think of as art?
I was once at a talk with Jake Chapman, and a self-important young lad at the front asked him "What is art?".
Jake replied "Art is what is made by artists."
The bloke in the audience then bit and asked the next obvious question: "So what is an artist?"
"Artists are people who make art", replied Jake.
By this stage the young lad was in a right old tizzy, but I have to say that I (and most of the audience) was with Jake Chapman!
Turner Prize 2015
Glasgow
Is placing fur coats on chairs art?
Discuss.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34404547
My words and thoughts on this 'exhibit'......
1) Several models have just left a meeting discussing the horrors of the 'fur trade'
2) several models have just left the room because nobody was talking to them.
3) The lady pressed the fire alarm and is now going to collect the furs to sell on Ebay.
Let me know when your display reaches the Kelvingrove art gallery EC......and I'll go see it. Much more interesting than a bunch of abandoned fur coats!
NO
I've not read the synopsis so I don't know whether it's real or fake. Hope it's not real.
They are real fur coats, apaprently obtained over Ebay.
Would I get the same recognition/acceptance if I were to rock up with a line of bottles of wine increasing in number alongside a line of apples decreasing in number until there is one apple where the largest number of bottles are. The whole installation being brightly lit at the beginning where there is one wine bottle and lots of apples and in shadow at the end where there is one apple and a large number of bottles?
Try it and see where you get you never know, given what they've accepted in the past....an unmade bed?
Ah yes - that bed...
All I'll say here is that a while back I went with a friend to see Charles Saatchi's collection of YBA art. We knew we'd be seeing Emin's Unmade Bed, and we weren't expecting to get much out of it. As it turned out, however, we both found it surprisingly moving.
I should stress that it wasn't the bed that we found moving (it's just a bed with rubbish strewn around it), but rather the story behind it: Emin had been on a massive bender in the midst of serious depression and relationship difficulties. The experience was so important to her that she tried to preserve it...
I've always scoffed at the 'unmade bed' - but I kinda see it differently now. What a difference context makes. Thanks for that Eug.
I also quite like EC's idea (honestly!)
The questions I have are, is the posted picture itself 'art'? is the placement of the chairs 'art'? are the coats themselves 'art'?
The installation itself is a representation of something the artist is interested in and finds in common practice everywhere.
I would suspect that without the artist describing the influence for the piece - no one would actually have guessed.
What gets me is there is a hefty prize for the winner of the Turner prize.
Would I get the same recognition/acceptance if I were to rock up with a line of bottles of wine increasing in number alongside a line of apples decreasing in number until there is one apple where the largest number of bottles are. The whole installation being brightly lit at the beginning where there is one wine bottle and lots of apples and in shadow at the end where there is one apple and a large number of bottles?
Try it and see where you get you never know, given what they've accepted in the past....an unmade bed?
Ah yes - that bed...
All I'll say here is that a while back I went with a friend to see Charles Saatchi's collection of YBA art. We knew we'd be seeing Emin's Unmade Bed, and we weren't expecting to get much out of it. As it turned out, however, we both found it surprisingly moving.
I should stress that it wasn't the bed that we found moving (it's just a bed with rubbish strewn around it), but rather the story behind it: Emin had been on a massive bender in the midst of serious depression and relationship difficulties. The experience was so important to her that she tried to preserve it...
Very well explained Eugene I can understand it better as "art" ie something conveying meaning now.
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