Not sure what area you are in... but from what I see there are more people losing jobs. It looks like a very selfish government at the moment, help the rich when they don't really need help... and make life for the poor harder than it was before.

I don't see come 2012 when these student tuition fees rocket making life easier/better... after they finish and start earning over £21k they are gonna be chased by debts.

Just come out of a recession...what planet are you on! Its still here! DOH!

One of the tv News a journalist spoke to a financial advisor and she made comparisons between the year 2000 and the current year. All in all the conclusion was that he was right but also wrong

He shouldn't have made the blanket statement that everyone is better off than they were, that just can't be as the law of averages would say some are worse off than they were for whatever individual reason for them.

There are people losing jobs everywhere - however we have to remember that we have a welfare system that will take care of these people.  Furthermore jobs are only one aspect of life - there are many other aspects which we really couldn't complain about - things we didn't have 20/30 years ago.

UK economy officially grew in January meaning we are out of the recession.

TBF he did say most people rather than all people.

I suppose those on lower incomes, or unemployed, and facing the prospect of moving out of high rent Cities, away from their schools, family, friends and communities, will be pleased for those with lower mortgage rates etc.

I would love to debate this with you more but given that my house has dropped in price yet again since January, the return on my pension has fell through the floor, the job situation in our area and the country as a whole is at a record low and the fact that January was ten months ago I have neither the time nor inclination


If there was nothing wrong with what he said why has he given in his resignation and Mr Cameron accepted it so graciously? Nuff said.

Because Mr Cameron is terrified of being associated with someone who may have offended a few people.

Nope..wrong again! He knows hes offended a great deal of people not a few

How would you define 'a few'?

He should speak to some of the blokes my husband knows through his work....

Oh no he can't cos several have committed suicide and quite a few more have recenlty suffered heart attacks though the stress of the work situation being so crap.

Well no-one I have spoken to today is offended. (and that doesn't include on here before anyone says it)

Who are you again? Kate Middleton? Oh to live in your little bubble

Probably the same way that we've come out of a recession

How many people are we talking about here in proportion to the whole work force - don't get me wrong it is very very sad when something like that happens but no matter what the rest of the world is going through/experiencing there will always be someone going through a bad time.


The problem with this country is we only ever discuss the "bad" aspects of our lives rather than focusing on what is good - we have countless mod cons, most of don't need to worry about where our next meal is coming from and most of us have a fair few luxuries etc hardly things to complain about are they.

In the last 3 months there ahve been about 3 heart attacks and only a couple of weeks ago a bloke had a stroke (just outside a school and careered through a central reservations and had to be cut out of his vehocle by the firebrigade....and there have been 2 suicides...I'm talking out of about 50 people.

And there are also blokes that have handed back their vehicles to the finance companies taken thousdand of £'s losses on them because they cannot actually afford to work and are better off on the dole...because at least that way they are not slipping further and further into debt ona  daily basis.

At least that option was there for them though - I have never been in such a position so I won't pretend to udnerstand how it must make a person feel but I imagine it must be pretty tough however shouldn't we consider ourselves almost dare I say it "lucky" that if we are ever in such a position there is a system there which will assist us in getting back on our feet.  That will ensure we never have to be in a positon where we have no food or no roof over our heads.

I did actually mean the whole workforce ie, the whole country - although I didn't make that very clear.

They should think themselves lucky they have lost their livlihood...and are thousands of pounds in debt to boot?

Well i was talking about the workforce i know about, some of whom have been diong the job for 30 odd years and have seen recessions come and go and they ALL say they've never had it So bad!

Oh well they can always move back in with their parents and club together to pay the heating bills

I think you have twisted what I said a little there - we are ALL lucky to have the welfare system we have in this country so that when we do fall upon times of hardship there is something there to help us.  Like I already said I don't for one second believe that thes men will feel lucky at this time and probably feeling pretty low but they would be in far more serious position if our welfare system didn't exist so in that respect we are lucky.

Try being  a front line worker in the public sector and wondering whether you are going to have a job in 6 months.


The RCN have estimated that up to 27 thousand front line workers could lose their jobs.

The subject will obviously be very raw for them therefore they  will not really be looking at the situation objectively - we as a nation always spend more time thinking about what we don't have rather than considering the things we do have.

Why are they not looking at it objectively? Are they all stupid or something? Surely if they are worse off now doing the same job than they have been in the last 30 odds years there is only one way to look at it.

When you consider how much of the population that will actually affect it is a very small amount therefore as Lord Young said MOST of the population are in a good position.  And before you say it - I am not heartless - I have every sympathy for all those whose jobs are in jeopardy at the moment but we have to put things into perspective rather than always concentrating on the negatives in life.

PP are you a tory MP?

No they're human - we have all been there at some point in our lives - in a situation which is awful and all we see is all the bad things about that situation rather than looking at what we do have.


Like I said work is one aspect of life - they may be worse off doing that job however I'm sure like most people they have a lot of other things in their lives and open to them now that they didn't have 30 years ago.

As a very rough rule of thumb "financial crisis" doesn't and didn't affect us. The end of a recession as a concept is thus irrelevant. What comes after as "the country recovers" is a lot of hardship for workers as they pick up the bill. ........... sort of.

But those negatives exist in so many walks ...you cannot look at them individually but have to add them together  and unlike maths, in this instance addinf negatives does not make positives.

No you can't however Lord Young was talking about the population as a whole and when we do this the positives far outweign the negatives.

How/

For most poeple they really don;t.

Game, set and match.

The lady`s not for turning.

Fall back on benefits?  Have you ever gone from earning £50,000 a year to getting benefits (£200 a fortnight)?  Have you ever tried to pay a mortgage, buy food, pay council tax, pay for utilities, etc., on £100 a week?  Nah, didn't think so.

But what evidence do you have to back that up??

I garee with Lord Young - I have no definitve proof to say he is right however evidence I have seen points to him being right.  The example given earlier regarding PSW is one such thing - 27,000 people losing jobs is such a small proportion of the population.  yes it's awful for each and every one of them however when considering the population as a whole it's a tiny proportion.

it's better than having nothing to fall back on.  And many people do it - plenty argue that they are better off on benefits than they are working.