For holiday or work you mean? I don't mean vet people coming for their holidays, but a system to make sure people can support themselves while they're here working (like already exists for non EU nationals). It's fair enough if other countries want to impose the same on British people going to work there too

 

I did wonder, if we leave the EU, will this affect people's fags n booze runs to Calais? Have they considered that?

 Sounds like Trev and Simon. They were ace 

And a ban on wind farms, because Global warming is just isn't true....

Well what I would like is that no one from the EU comes here ( apart from genuine asylum seekers, students and of course holiday makers ) without already having a job ....because I think most of the problem seems to stem from the the perception ( rightly , or wrongly) that a significant percentage of those arriving here join the benefit culture . (I believe that we are already doing something  along those lines for non EU members....many of which have closer * ties* to us than a lot of European countries....but I stand to be corrected on that one ) .   I don't consider it racism ....I consider it economic * prudence* .....but it's never going to happen while we are in the EU as it stands , given the totally open borders policy . 

We'd have to get visas,  can't be doing with that, if I wanted to drive to Greece, I'd have to spend hours in various embassies, getting  the right bits of paper stamped.

I think we were allowed more booze and fags before we joined the EU, reason enough to get out now...

  Oh Fluffy - they used to crack me up 

Because we are in, there is no limit to the amount of alcohol and tabs you can import, providing they are for one's own use and tax paid in the country of purchase.

Non EU immigrants already have  major restrictions placed upon them.Every time they request a visa for leave to remin, it costs the prospective immigrants  a serious amount of money, and as all requests are initially refused, they have to apply at least twice, but more commonly any number of times, this process can take months  and some times years.

If they succeed in being granted a visa and given leave to remain, they are not permitted recourse to public funds , even before they are granted a visa one of the stipulations that has to be satisified is that you have  several thousand(5 last time I looked) and if you are joining your spouse here, he/she  will have to be earning over  £18,000 a year, that's probably gone up tooby now.

When my friend came here he had to wait 9 months  and made 4 attempts to get a visa and then he had to pay heaps to take the UK citizenship test( I failed btw) all in all the whole process cost him over £3,000.

 

The situation is entirely different for asylum seekers .

I remember buying Golden Virginia in some dodgy looking Belgium cafe, years ago.

Exactly JB ....which seems wrong to me .....especially applied to say Commonwealth members ...when EU members simply jump on on a boat or plane and enter with no restrictions at all  

I should have said that my post above meant people from the EU should be required to have jobs ...I've amended it now

Blimey Baz! I used nearly a whole page in reply!!

 

I'm exhausted now...

Sorry ....It was sloppy posting on the run  

It's horses and courses  Baz, when we had the housing boom a few years back, many Brits were delighted to see the poles flood in, they sorted the plumbing and electrics, and  anything else needed, then millions went back  when the bubble burst, so that's quite a positive immigration experience.

The Romanians and Bugarians that came here  10 years ago,had to be self employed, that is why we didn't have the great waves of them racing in when the restrictions came off, those who wanted to come here,generally, already  had.

 

When we aren't so popular, folks will move on to another place and that will include us, I expect.

I love this "should we maintain a European link" coupled with "swing yer pants" LOL

I vote for the Swing Your Pants Party 

 Joining us Moonie?  

Mebee

 making sense in a world of craziness

Who is?

Offers Moonie a free guitar and loon pants... 

ROFL  

Brilliant Sainty....

The 'Swing your Pants' Party!

Imagine the Party Political Broadcast  

Stranger things have happened

 

That is a gem Soozy

More stupid

 

I'm standing for election  look:

Policy 1 - wear your trousers w-i-d-e

 

 

"Making Sense in a World of Craziness" is the perfect slogan too 

 

MeerKats must wander around in pairs

So we can effectively 'Compare the meerkat'

Or .........................'ducking and a diving - wheeling and a dealing' like the flipping crazy, mental Sister brothers.

ROFL I forgot they did that Soozy