Aw, ok. Ta.

So Go Donks! Do it for Gaga and meeeeee!  *cheerleadery stuff*  and  

and that just proves my point. It's so tight here that nobody see's the problems.....or they do see them but don't want to say. 

I have nothing more to add so this is me saying .....bye 

No, it was just me not seeing I suspect. I defer to better informed FMs.  

Doesn't mean I'm not gonna take any notice however!  

Not sure what you're saying, Cags.

In my experience, people who need help eventually ask for it. I'm shit at giving it, but quite good at seeing when it's asked for, or needed. 

I'll leave it to others to give 'good' advice.

I do apologise. Can't sleep and just a bit narky (2 feet in my ribs does that). I do hope you help your friend though. Honesty again? I've seen many people self destruct on here and other places. I love a bit of scandal but if you can help then good on you 

Aww. I remember it well. 

Velvet either needs meds, or counselling, or both. I don't think anyone can deny that.

Scandalous is my BIL leaving the marital home two weeks before his silver wedding anniversary, after having the best relationship out of six siblings. There is no rhyme or reason, apart from an effed up brain.  

Tell me about it Blizzie. one of my best friends' husband is in Kabul. She's out on the town. If that was my man I'd be gutted. I'd not be out partying.

I've got 2 feet wiggling about near my ribs too like Cags so am up as the birds are chirping.

I've read the whole thread now, and I hope VD doesn't delete it because I think there's a lot of good discussion, good randomness and everything in between here. I don't have any advice though. besides I'm not sure if any was asked for. 

Cagney.Two words one of them are off.

Bit ambiguous there Erin. Are you expressing surprise at what Cagney wrote?

eh?! I'm seeing velvet saying he's alright, but just missing that whatever it is that would make him 100% happy . Think a lot of us would say the same really .

Agreeing here with that unpronounceable goddess one, and suzy . (edited to clarify - suzy's post on not being sure advice was being sought!)

and hallo pirate! ! Good to see you! 

And Soozy!! Agggghhh my eyes! ! Brilliant but disturbing! 

Hope you're ok Velvet.

This thread is an epic read! I've just read the whole thing and it's got it all..... It's got giggles, melting mars bars... some random called Dominic , tear away teens....A pirate... concealed mobile phones... Stolen jeans!.... Bowie and Jagger... and more....

So i just have to say thank you to you all for a good read annoyed i went to bed REALLY early now

I could blame the booze but I can't drink just now  

awww are you pregnant Cagney

hope you ok velvet

Yep. Not long to go. Thank God. I need a night out.......with booze 

OMG  It seems like no time since your last wee one.

See, this makes me feel a bit happy.

Sorry pirate, lovely to see you back.

I say not long to go Col but it seems to be taking FOREVER  Conor is 2 now so not a lot between them. I got a pic made last week with the new wee man's name on it. I hope that scan was right 

Cross fingers.  I'm made up for you.

Thank you 

After this one I'm deffo getting something done. Probably send him for the snip  

I'm not good at puzzles 

I am good with grammar though and that should be "one of them IS off" 

More sanctimonious bullsh*t.

Strangely enough I did have a nap there. I NEVER nap. I should do it more often though coz I feel completely refreshed 

I live in hope .

I shall never drink Gin again, tonight. 

Harsh 

Same here.  I keep pretending to myself and everyone else.

But I'm at the point where it's hey ho, smile 

Donks  and everyone else that's having troubles 

Hope it all works out for you all 

where you been hiding

Well....you know....here and there. Just stuff keeping me off here at the mo  Everyone needs a break sometimes 

Was wondering where you'd been. You not watching BB?

Nah, I never did   

I'm just trying to get out of the habit of not being on here as much 

Let's hope you don't lose that habit  

Soz but, it's one habit I'm really trying to break 

Nooooooooooo, you have to be here at the very least 3 times a week! I know i'm one to talk

VD it's taken me since yesterday to reply in this thread,but yes I will....

Am I happy?,happy is ever evolving imo and I try,hard,Sometimes the pieces fit,rarely,what doesn't fit is filed away in the *I'll deal with that  later* file which does become cramped and then  I fold.There are voids that I can never fill,never ever again fill,pieces that will never fit again,ever ,things and people I've had to walk away from,things I can't sacrifice again so no going back...What is happy?,I look at my sons and I am happy ,happy and proud what we raised and sent into this world,...I look and hold my grandkids and I am happy,We change.our perception of happiness,happiness changes ,we change what we can ,what we can't we either walk away from or store it in the unimportant file.

Lee, that reads as a beautiful prose poem. I understand many of the sentiments. Thank you.