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Originally Posted by sparkles:

After Denise had pulled the trousers down, you could see the cogs going around in Carissa's head..... She smiled and said 'I am not sure that I am happy with that...  I am not sure I am comfortable with that,' as she was thinking 'what can I make of THIS for publicity and attention???'  

they haven't claimed to be able to read  other's minds yet tho...

jacksonb
Originally Posted by sparkles:

After Denise had pulled the trousers down, you could see the cogs going around in Carissa's head..... She smiled and said 'I am not sure that I am happy with that...  I am not sure I am comfortable with that,' as she was thinking 'what can I make of THIS for publicity and attention???'  

After she says I am not cool with that, Denise says sorry and the twin gets back on the sofa to continue dancing and Denise reaches up to do it again.

 I don't care if the girls get their bits out in the middle of a busy high street that is their choice. In the house they had chosen not to show their bodies that is also their choice. Her choice was taken away by some drunk lush who doesn't know that she shouldn't invade someone elses boundaries.

longcat
Originally Posted by longcat:
Originally Posted by sparkles:

After Denise had pulled the trousers down, you could see the cogs going around in Carissa's head..... She smiled and said 'I am not sure that I am happy with that...  I am not sure I am comfortable with that,' as she was thinking 'what can I make of THIS for publicity and attention???'  

After she says I am not cool with that, Denise says sorry and the twin gets back on the sofa to continue dancing and Denise reaches up to do it again.

 I don't care if the girls get their bits out in the middle of a busy high street that is their choice. In the house they had chosen not to show their bodies that is also their choice. Her choice was taken away by some drunk lush who doesn't know that she shouldn't invade someone elses boundaries.

It was only an innocent prank  said Denise ..the twins have no right to object they do it for a living .. so it is okay.. in Denise's head ..she will say anything to justfy her behaviour .. its like saying a prostitute can be raped but it does not matter because they do it for a living,I find those pictures of Denise with her hands touching her breasts and bottom pretty sickening,unfortunately because of the arguement that followed Denise has come out of this smelling of roses,and could actually win..she should get an oscar for best playing actress ..who  plays the sympathy card the best.

 

Marguerita
Originally Posted by Marguerita:
Originally Posted by longcat:
Originally Posted by sparkles:

After Denise had pulled the trousers down, you could see the cogs going around in Carissa's head..... She smiled and said 'I am not sure that I am happy with that...  I am not sure I am comfortable with that,' as she was thinking 'what can I make of THIS for publicity and attention???'  

After she says I am not cool with that, Denise says sorry and the twin gets back on the sofa to continue dancing and Denise reaches up to do it again.

 I don't care if the girls get their bits out in the middle of a busy high street that is their choice. In the house they had chosen not to show their bodies that is also their choice. Her choice was taken away by some drunk lush who doesn't know that she shouldn't invade someone elses boundaries.

It was only an innocent prank  said Denise ..the twins have no right to object they do it for a living .. so it is okay.. in Denise's head ..she will say anything to justfy her behaviour .. its like saying a prostitute can be raped but it does not matter because they do it for a living,I find those pictures of Denise with her hands touching her breasts and bottom pretty sickening,unfortunately because of the arguement that followed Denise has come out of this smelling of roses,and could actually win..she should get an oscar for best playing actress ..who  plays the sympathy card the best.

 

People say the twins saw it as an opportunity to get Denise out but when everything's calmed down and they are all sat in the living room being quiet its Denise who walks through with a smirk on her face as if to say "job done"

 She will stay tonight and the twins will be booed out of the house and she will feel she did nothing wrong.

longcat
Originally Posted by longcat:
Originally Posted by Marguerita:
Originally Posted by longcat:
Originally Posted by sparkles:

After Denise had pulled the trousers down, you could see the cogs going around in Carissa's head..... She smiled and said 'I am not sure that I am happy with that...  I am not sure I am comfortable with that,' as she was thinking 'what can I make of THIS for publicity and attention???'  

After she says I am not cool with that, Denise says sorry and the twin gets back on the sofa to continue dancing and Denise reaches up to do it again.

 I don't care if the girls get their bits out in the middle of a busy high street that is their choice. In the house they had chosen not to show their bodies that is also their choice. Her choice was taken away by some drunk lush who doesn't know that she shouldn't invade someone elses boundaries.

It was only an innocent prank  said Denise ..the twins have no right to object they do it for a living .. so it is okay.. in Denise's head ..she will say anything to justfy her behaviour .. its like saying a prostitute can be raped but it does not matter because they do it for a living,I find those pictures of Denise with her hands touching her breasts and bottom pretty sickening,unfortunately because of the arguement that followed Denise has come out of this smelling of roses,and could actually win..she should get an oscar for best playing actress ..who  plays the sympathy card the best.

 

People say the twins saw it as an opportunity to get Denise out but when everything's calmed down and they are all sat in the living room being quiet its Denise who walks through with a smirk on her face as if to say "job done"

 She will stay tonight and the twins will be booed out of the house and she will feel she did nothing wrong.

She will never admit she did anything wrong this is what alcoholics do best,it is always the other persons fault that is how they justify their behaviour.. the public will be right behind her.. how dare an American upset our Denise.. the last two nights on BOTS they have had on Denise's friends and been very anti American,not really helping her in the long run to sort out her demons

Marguerita

Marg, Longcat.. agree with all you say.   I'm actually annoyed with the twins now, because they've helped her enormously in there and instead of being kicked out tonight as she should be, she's now getting the underdog vote and the jingoistic vote and will probably end up as top woman.    BotS made me sick last night - I switched off half way through.

Kaffs
Originally Posted by Marguerita:
Originally Posted by longcat:
Originally Posted by Marguerita:
Originally Posted by longcat:
Originally Posted by sparkles:

After Denise had pulled the trousers down, you could see the cogs going around in Carissa's head..... She smiled and said 'I am not sure that I am happy with that...  I am not sure I am comfortable with that,' as she was thinking 'what can I make of THIS for publicity and attention???'  

After she says I am not cool with that, Denise says sorry and the twin gets back on the sofa to continue dancing and Denise reaches up to do it again.

 I don't care if the girls get their bits out in the middle of a busy high street that is their choice. In the house they had chosen not to show their bodies that is also their choice. Her choice was taken away by some drunk lush who doesn't know that she shouldn't invade someone elses boundaries.

It was only an innocent prank  said Denise ..the twins have no right to object they do it for a living .. so it is okay.. in Denise's head ..she will say anything to justfy her behaviour .. its like saying a prostitute can be raped but it does not matter because they do it for a living,I find those pictures of Denise with her hands touching her breasts and bottom pretty sickening,unfortunately because of the arguement that followed Denise has come out of this smelling of roses,and could actually win..she should get an oscar for best playing actress ..who  plays the sympathy card the best.

 

People say the twins saw it as an opportunity to get Denise out but when everything's calmed down and they are all sat in the living room being quiet its Denise who walks through with a smirk on her face as if to say "job done"

 She will stay tonight and the twins will be booed out of the house and she will feel she did nothing wrong.

She will never admit she did anything wrong this is what alcoholics do best,it is always the other persons fault that is how they justify their behaviour.. the public will be right behind her.. how dare an American upset our Denise.. the last two nights on BOTS they have had on Denise's friends and been very anti American,not really helping her in the long run to sort out her demons

The last 2 nights of BOTS was nothing more than a glorified "Save our Denise" campaign .

longcat

Marge, longcat and Kaffy..totally agree with everything you say, I had to turn BBOTS off they don't even realise how offensive they sound saying things about The Americans..could you imagine if it was Asian HMs they were talking about..and as for Denise she made a show of herself with what she did to the twins..what she said to nicola and the way she went to snog Gareth..the woman is discusting....

stonks
Originally Posted by stonks:

Marge, longcat and Kaffy..totally agree with everything you say, I had to turn BBOTS off they don't even realise how offensive they sound saying things about The Americans..could you imagine if it was Asian HMs they were talking about..and as for Denise she made a show of herself with what she did to the twins..what she said to nicola and the way she went to snog Gareth..the woman is discusting....

I was ashamed last night at the anti American brigade it made for very uncomfortable viewing and had it been against a black person it would have been considered racist.

longcat

I can agree that they are wrong in criticising Denise for jumping in the jacuzzi with Frankie, but not that Karissa is wrong to feel upset that Denise pulled her trousers down and then looked like she was attempting it again. If Karissa had a history of yanking down the trousers of others and was insistent that there was nothing wrong in doing so , then yes she would be a hypocrite. Just because she chooses to expose her own flesh does not make her hypocritical to object to others who do so. People may think that she was over-sensitive or that she took things too far in the diary room, but to label her a hypocrite for it is wrong.

kimota
Originally Posted by longcat:
Originally Posted by stonks:

Marge, longcat and Kaffy..totally agree with everything you say, I had to turn BBOTS off they don't even realise how offensive they sound saying things about The Americans..could you imagine if it was Asian HMs they were talking about..and as for Denise she made a show of herself with what she did to the twins..what she said to nicola and the way she went to snog Gareth..the woman is discusting....

I was ashamed last night at the anti American brigade it made for very uncomfortable viewing and had it been against a black person it would have been considered racist.

I can see the difference in that if the show was anti-Asian or black, that would clearly be racist, but the jingoistic nationalism on display was pretty nauseating anyway. I actually complained about it this morning to C5, the first time I have ever felt moved to complain about a TV show!

kimota
Originally Posted by kimota (Corin's Crib #1) FAKER # 1:

I can agree that they are wrong in criticising Denise for jumping in the jacuzzi with Frankie, but not that Karissa is wrong to feel upset that Denise pulled her trousers down and then looked like she was attempting it again. If Karissa had a history of yanking down the trousers of others and was insistent that there was nothing wrong in doing so , then yes she would be a hypocrite. Just because she chooses to expose her own flesh does not make her hypocritical to object to others who do so. People may think that she was over-sensitive or that she took things too far in the diary room, but to label her a hypocrite for it is wrong.

Good post Kimota....IMO her Diary room responses ,which were obviously edited,were centred around her butt being shown,she was wearing a thong,her PJ's were pulled down at the back to mid thigh level,so yes if BB had shown the incident from a different angle her butt  would have been seen.Her butt,her choice to show it or not,her right to complain when someone else takes it upon themselves to expose her butt,not hypocritical,her RIGHT.

~Lee~
Originally Posted by longcat:
Originally Posted by stonks:

Marge, longcat and Kaffy..totally agree with everything you say, I had to turn BBOTS off they don't even realise how offensive they sound saying things about The Americans..could you imagine if it was Asian HMs they were talking about..and as for Denise she made a show of herself with what she did to the twins..what she said to nicola and the way she went to snog Gareth..the woman is discusting....

I was ashamed last night at the anti American brigade it made for very uncomfortable viewing and had it been against a black person it would have been considered racist.

I totally agree Longcat I had to turn the programme off in the end before I blew a gasket..and good on you for complaining to ch5....

stonks
Originally Posted by stonks:
Originally Posted by longcat:
Originally Posted by stonks:

Marge, longcat and Kaffy..totally agree with everything you say, I had to turn BBOTS off they don't even realise how offensive they sound saying things about The Americans..could you imagine if it was Asian HMs they were talking about..and as for Denise she made a show of herself with what she did to the twins..what she said to nicola and the way she went to snog Gareth..the woman is discusting....

I was ashamed last night at the anti American brigade it made for very uncomfortable viewing and had it been against a black person it would have been considered racist.

I totally agree Longcat I had to turn the programme off in the end before I blew a gasket..and good on you for complaining to ch5....

It was me who complained Stonks. Anyone else who wants to can use this link:

http://www.channel5.com/contact-us

kimota
Originally Posted by kimota (Corin's Crib #1) FAKER # 1:
Originally Posted by stonks:
Originally Posted by longcat:
Originally Posted by stonks:

Marge, longcat and Kaffy..totally agree with everything you say, I had to turn BBOTS off they don't even realise how offensive they sound saying things about The Americans..could you imagine if it was Asian HMs they were talking about..and as for Denise she made a show of herself with what she did to the twins..what she said to nicola and the way she went to snog Gareth..the woman is discusting....

I was ashamed last night at the anti American brigade it made for very uncomfortable viewing and had it been against a black person it would have been considered racist.

I totally agree Longcat I had to turn the programme off in the end before I blew a gasket..and good on you for complaining to ch5....

It was me who complained Stonks. Anyone else who wants to can use this link:

http://www.channel5.com/contact-us

Soz just realised my mistake kimota..and thankyou for the idea, I've just been and complained..my first complaint ever and I will not be watching that show after tonight..I will only watch tonights to see if anything is said about people turning off or complaining....

stonks
Originally Posted by kimota (Corin's Crib #1) FAKER # 1:

In future I will only watch BOTS if they have a guest on who I like (rare) or during eviction nights.

Gawd you won't be watching it much then....since it started this year there are so many zelebs I can't stand because of the way they are on it including Rodrigo lastnight....

stonks
Originally Posted by stonks:
Originally Posted by kimota (Corin's Crib #1) FAKER # 1:

In future I will only watch BOTS if they have a guest on who I like (rare) or during eviction nights.

Gawd you won't be watching it much then....since it started this year there are so many zelebs I can't stand because of the way they are on it including Rodrigo lastnight....

I expected him (Rodrigo)to at least speak up last night when they were saying only British HM's blah blah blah,the way they went on would have excluded him from being a HM and he can forget ever being on CBB 

~Lee~
Originally Posted by kimota (Corin's Crib #1) FAKER # 1:

I can agree that they are wrong in criticising Denise for jumping in the jacuzzi with Frankie, but not that Karissa is wrong to feel upset that Denise pulled her trousers down and then looked like she was attempting it again. If Karissa had a history of yanking down the trousers of others and was insistent that there was nothing wrong in doing so , then yes she would be a hypocrite. Just because she chooses to expose her own flesh does not make her hypocritical to object to others who do so. People may think that she was over-sensitive or that she took things too far in the diary room, but to label her a hypocrite for it is wrong.

Kimoto. I am not for one minute condoning what Denise did. I think she well overstepped the mark. What you say is true, but, I am referring to Karissa saying she is reserved and shy.Ermm....Just Google her name and you can see how reserved and shy she is.

Sezit
Originally Posted by Sezit:
Originally Posted by kimota (Corin's Crib #1) FAKER # 1:

I can agree that they are wrong in criticising Denise for jumping in the jacuzzi with Frankie, but not that Karissa is wrong to feel upset that Denise pulled her trousers down and then looked like she was attempting it again. If Karissa had a history of yanking down the trousers of others and was insistent that there was nothing wrong in doing so , then yes she would be a hypocrite. Just because she chooses to expose her own flesh does not make her hypocritical to object to others who do so. People may think that she was over-sensitive or that she took things too far in the diary room, but to label her a hypocrite for it is wrong.

Kimoto. I am not for one minute condoning what Denise did. I think she well overstepped the mark. What you say is true, but, I am referring to Karissa saying she is reserved and shy.Ermm....Just Google her name and you can see how reserved and shy she is.


I can see why people are quick to say that Sezit, but there are performers and actors who go on stage and have huge personalities that have audience eating out of their hands... who's to say that it's not a similar thing?    When she's working - she has no problem acting out the 'fantasy woman' role... but when she's not 'in character' she is more reserved - and as  someone said somewhere on here (sorry to who it is I can't quite remember) maybe the fact that she exposes everything in her work makes it even more important to her that in her personal life she is more reserved?

Kaffs

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