Originally Posted by cologne 1:
I have been roundly ignorded.
I'm always ignored but - I don't have a problem with it.i did read your posts on this ............if I didn't respond directly it doesn't mean *I didn't digest them/
i did read your posts on this ............if I didn't respond directly it doesn't mean *I didn't digest them/
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
I have been roundly ignorded. Thanks to my fellow FMs which have been around as long if not longer than I have. I am here and it might be nice to say hello back to suybean, but I have actually stuck around for the duration, she didn't, but is more more thanwelcome back. 
Cologne, not sure what's up, but I read back over the thread and saw no signs of you being ignored 
Oh bloody hell
Originally Posted by stonks:
6 minutes....
I went for a pee...that's not funny...or fair 
Originally Posted by Cagney:
Originally Posted by stonks:
6 minutes....
I went for a pee...that's not funny...or fair 
Originally Posted by Slinkiwitch x:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
I have been roundly ignorded. Thanks to my fellow FMs which have been around as long if not longer than I have. I am here and it might be nice to say hello back to suybean, but I have actually stuck around for the duration, she didn't, but is more more thanwelcome back.
Cologne, not sure what's up, but I read back over the thread and saw no signs of you being ignored 
Originally Posted by stonks:
Originally Posted by Cagney:
Originally Posted by stonks:
6 minutes....
I went for a pee...that's not funny...or fair 
I'll never do it though
col you're never ignored stop being silly
Wine, sorry people. I might bow out now and go an listen to Radio 5. If it's blooming football, I'll be back.
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
I have been roundly ignorded. Thanks to my fellow FMs which have been around as long if not longer than I have. I am here and it might be nice to say hello back to suybean, but I have actually stuck around for the duration, she didn't, but is more more thanwelcome back.
Col' I replied to you at 12.18 and you didn't respond....I'm not sure what you're on about tbh....
Oh, I forgot. I was going to talk about the Jabberwaklie. For another day. 
Caloo calay! Etc!
Cologne...let's jibber jabber!
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
IGNORE ME. Sorry about caps. I think I may have something to say because I've been in the situation, but that's bollocks really, many people have beeen in a nasty situation, which is more important than anything else.
Col' are you upset that you were in a similar position and that wasn't expanded on by others? Was your comment: Where do you get from Soopes to be the best at everfink?
a dig at me
Ahh! Monty Python..
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
I have been roundly ignorded. Thanks to my fellow FMs which have been around as long if not longer than I have. I am here and it might be nice to say hello back to suybean, but I have actually stuck around for the duration, she didn't, but is more more thanwelcome back.
Col' I replied to you at 12.18 and you didn't respond....I'm not sure what you're on about tbh....Thank you soopes. I'm not angry, just in one of those moodes, Sorry. Please speak to me tomorrow, or is that today?
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Thank you soopes. I'm not angry, just in one of those moodes, Sorry. Please speak tome tomorrow, or is that today?
Okydokey, (yeah, it's today)Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Oh, I forgot. I was going to talk about the Jabberwaklie. For another day.
Goddit (I think/maybe!) This?'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!"
He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought --
So rested he by the Tumtum tree.
And stood awhile in thought.
And as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came wiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.
"And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!"
He chortled in his joy.
'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
Originally Posted by kattymieoww:
Cologne...let's jibber jabber!
I pity the fool who jibber jabbers...I do...I pity the fool Sorry...couldn't resist that one
Love the nonsense poem. Brilliant, as brilliant as Allice through the looking glass. Thank you.
It's fantastic, the sort of thing I would conger up when I was 4 or 5 I read it because my daddy had the books and loved the poetry. He had a libraby of Shiller and Goethe and lots of American writers, whom I read. And Marx and Engels 'Das Kapital', which sounded like a lot of rubbish to me even when I was 7, but actually made sense when I was a bit older.
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
It's fantastic, the sort of thing I would conger up when I was 4 or 5
It was my twin sister's favourite poem when we were little. This is my favourite bit: So rested he by the Tumtum tree. And stood awhile in thought. ......and what Alice said : "It seems very pretty," she said when she had finished it, "but it's rather hard to understand!" (You see she didn't like to confess even to herself, that she couldn't make it out at all.) "Somehow it seems to fill my head with ideas--only I don't exactly know what they are! However, somebody killed something: that's clear, at any rate---"
Clearly after this amount of pages things may have gone OT by now, but without reading all the comments until here, and I normally do this, but this is my response to the OP because I am so angry about this and the UK's response to the situation in Libya.
On a purely humanitarian basis, yes, our government should be making every possible effort to remove anyone from Libya who feels the need to flee for fear of death, reprisals etc. It is evident to me that other nations have been prepared to take on many other nationalities on their rescue missions that our government has not even begun to start. In fact, our government has appeared to have relied on said other nations to remove anyone from wherever!
It's basically a disgrace. But at least Gadaffi isn't in charge here!
* and breathe and go to bed*
On a purely humanitarian basis, yes, our government should be making every possible effort to remove anyone from Libya who feels the need to flee for fear of death, reprisals etc. It is evident to me that other nations have been prepared to take on many other nationalities on their rescue missions that our government has not even begun to start. In fact, our government has appeared to have relied on said other nations to remove anyone from wherever!
It's basically a disgrace. But at least Gadaffi isn't in charge here!
* and breathe and go to bed*
Nothing to add to political threads except ......Xochi
Scuse my ignorance
Scuse my ignorance
Aye.................
Originally Posted by Xochiquetzal:
Clearly after this amount of pages things may have gone OT by now, but without reading all the comments until here, and I normally do this, but this is my response to the OP because I am so angry about this and the UK's response to the situation in Libya.
On a purely humanitarian basis, yes, our government should be making every possible effort to remove anyone from Libya who feels the need to flee for fear of death, reprisals etc. It is evident to me that other nations have been prepared to take on many other nationalities on their rescue missions that our government has not even begun to start. In fact, our government has appeared to have relied on said other nations to remove anyone from wherever!
It's basically a disgrace. But at least Gadaffi isn't in charge here!
* and breathe and go to bed*
XochiOn a purely humanitarian basis, yes, our government should be making every possible effort to remove anyone from Libya who feels the need to flee for fear of death, reprisals etc. It is evident to me that other nations have been prepared to take on many other nationalities on their rescue missions that our government has not even begun to start. In fact, our government has appeared to have relied on said other nations to remove anyone from wherever!
It's basically a disgrace. But at least Gadaffi isn't in charge here!
* and breathe and go to bed*
Oh oops i'm not like properly touchy hugging just, well ye know..can i you instead? Fact is even call me Dave and carp Clegg know that they have screwed up here, and tbf to them, at least they're holding their hands up to it. Yet, i come in here and there are people who appear to seriously believe that we should let folk suffer because they've been after after a fast buck... I wouldn't associate with these people in r, why am I doing so here? Consider this a mini flounce!
does it really matter why brits went to libya and does it matter how much they have earnt>?
it's the responsibility of the home office to offer help and assistance to us when we are abroad ,of course they should get the brits out of a war zone.
im not buying all this pursing of lips and ' they made their bed...' rubbish
we nambypambied around whilst the french and others thought wtf and sent their military transports in, we should have done the same.
i am also told none of them get a free flight, they all have to pay towards the cost of getting them out.
it's the responsibility of the home office to offer help and assistance to us when we are abroad ,of course they should get the brits out of a war zone.
im not buying all this pursing of lips and ' they made their bed...' rubbish
we nambypambied around whilst the french and others thought wtf and sent their military transports in, we should have done the same.
i am also told none of them get a free flight, they all have to pay towards the cost of getting them out.
I think it's a standard thing isn't it, if your citizens are caught up on a state of emergency or natural disaster, you send your troops in to get them out.
A lot of people are saying it over here (in Ireland) too about the government not acting quickly enough. But apparently protests in Libya are quite common and this one just escalated very quickly.
I think the governments are doing all they can to get their citizens out in a very difficult situation, particularly when the lunatic in control is telling his army to blow up the runways so foreign planes can't land
(allegedly)
A lot of people are saying it over here (in Ireland) too about the government not acting quickly enough. But apparently protests in Libya are quite common and this one just escalated very quickly.
I think the governments are doing all they can to get their citizens out in a very difficult situation, particularly when the lunatic in control is telling his army to blow up the runways so foreign planes can't land
(allegedly)
Supes I keep out of PP threads now for the obvious reasons I am making the exception for you,I am glad your brother in law is home and safe it must have been a terrible worry for all of the family,hopefully his friends and work mates will be home soon and safe, it never ceases to amaze me that there are some people who have little or no empathy for others ..how sad are they, and I know you are not one of them, you have always shown lots of sympathy on here when needed,take care
I keep out of PP threads now for the obvious reasons I am making the exception for you,I am glad your brother in law is home and safe it must have been a terrible worry for all of the family,hopefully his friends and work mates will be home soon and safe, it never ceases to amaze me that there are some people who have little or no empathy for others ..how sad are they, and I know you are not one of them, you have always shown lots of sympathy on here when needed,take care
I've not read all the way back but ............I did get a bit vocal last night. We'd had friends round and probably had one or two too many.
Pretty P - if I was rude I really do apologise. I haven't altered my stance but I'm sure I could have worded it better.
Pretty P - if I was rude I really do apologise. I haven't altered my stance but I'm sure I could have worded it better.
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Yet, i come in here and there are people who appear to seriously believe that we should let folk suffer because they've been after after a fast buck...
After a fast buck in totally above board and legal employment and working longer hours than UK Law just to better themselves rather than stay in the economically struggling UK and claim benefits if you please! Oh the cheek of it! One does wonder what one would have to do to appease one.
Supes, take a break if you feel you need to, but don't do the flouncey thing. Thankfully, the majority on here seem to be humane people.
Originally Posted by jacksonb:
does it really matter why brits went to libya and does it matter how much they have earnt>?
it's the responsibility of the home office to offer help and assistance to us when we are abroad ,of course they should get the brits out of a war zone.
im not buying all this pursing of lips and ' they made their bed...' rubbish
we nambypambied around whilst the french and others thought wtf and sent their military transports in, we should have done the same.
i am also told none of them get a free flight, they all have to pay towards the cost of getting them out.
Totally agrees.....get the poor beggars home, they are people not numbersit's the responsibility of the home office to offer help and assistance to us when we are abroad ,of course they should get the brits out of a war zone.
im not buying all this pursing of lips and ' they made their bed...' rubbish
we nambypambied around whilst the french and others thought wtf and sent their military transports in, we should have done the same.
i am also told none of them get a free flight, they all have to pay towards the cost of getting them out.
Her Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State Requests and requires in the Name of Her Majesty all those whom it may concern to allow the bearer to pass freely without let or hindrance, and to afford the bearer such assistance and protection as may be necessary.
There you go. If you've got the passport then there is your guarantee.
There you go. If you've got the passport then there is your guarantee.
SUPES...........I hear where you are coming from being an ex-pat North Easterner myself. There are few jobs up there and so many men are working abroad in countries they wouldn't voluntarily choose, out of the need to look after their families...I'm very glad your BIL is home safe
Originally Posted by suzybean:
Her Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State Requests and requires in the Name of Her Majesty all those whom it may concern to allow the bearer to pass freely without let or hindrance, and to afford the bearer such assistance and protection as may be necessary.
There you go. If you've got the passport then there is your guarantee.
There you go. If you've got the passport then there is your guarantee.
I haven't read back everything in this thread but imo no matter what the circumstances are,why folk were working in Libya ,on a humanitarian basis alone get them home to safety.Now is not the time to be splitting hairs.
Originally Posted by suzybean:
Her Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State Requests and requires in the Name of Her Majesty all those whom it may concern to allow the bearer to pass freely without let or hindrance, and to afford the bearer such assistance and protection as may be necessary.
There you go. If you've got the passport then there is your guarantee.
Well yeah because that worked so well with the poor so and so's kidnapped illegally and sent to Guantanmo bay and the other less visible torture camps run by the US and their mates.There you go. If you've got the passport then there is your guarantee.
Hi Suzy xxxx Not having a go at you btw just the selective application of the rules
Oh yes I do think they should be safely moved out of there, and I don't care if they have been there 30 years or 30 months. They are our people.. Someone made an excellent point earlier in the thread that the government will happily pay billions of pounds to bail out the banks, and that is true, so I see no reason why we should not get our citizens home. How could anyone think any different? I guess people are entitled to think what they like, but if baffles me how people say 'let them stay or get their own way back, its their problem!'
Supes, i am very glad your extended family is safe and well and I hope that everyone out there gets back OK. I guess people do know the risk when working in these kind of countries, but that is no reason to say 'stuff em let them stay!' To me, that is the same kind of person that makes cruel snipes to a new mommy with a young baby who is keeping her awake and spitefully says 'well YOU wanted her!' It's basically a lack of empathy and compassion. Not a nice quality. Is anyone actually surprised at the OP's opinion though? I'm not. It's classic PP.
I guess people are entitled to think what they like, but if baffles me how people say 'let them stay or get their own way back, its their problem!'Supes, i am very glad your extended family is safe and well and I hope that everyone out there gets back OK. I guess people do know the risk when working in these kind of countries, but that is no reason to say 'stuff em let them stay!' To me, that is the same kind of person that makes cruel snipes to a new mommy with a young baby who is keeping her awake and spitefully says 'well YOU wanted her!' It's basically a lack of empathy and compassion. Not a nice quality. Is anyone actually surprised at the OP's opinion though? I'm not. It's classic PP.