super

CC, I hate the job I'm doing (and am currently looking for a new one due to bullying by my boss - me and another girl) but until I can get one that money is keeping a roof over my head. I suspect that's a case with some of these folks also 

Please don't respond to me either...ta thanks 

You also only read what you want to read and that doesn't make for a good debate.

Super, i wasn't being horrible, I just genuinely didn't get why your brother would stay in Libya 30 years if it was so bad.  I mean that is a LONG time....  I know jobs arent always easy to come by, but it just baffled me why someone would stay that long because there have been spells when there have been plenty of jobs/career opportunities in the UK AND other countries since 1980, so I find it hard to believe he had no other choice.  JMO of course...

Cupcake !

Everyone here has a valid point without subject to villification (not sure I spelt that right - ME! with a private education *tuts*)

Breath deep breaths & take it on the chin ! Tommorrow is another day!  

Cagney

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You also only read what you want to read and that doesn't make for a good debate.

I agree ............i'm sure a lot see the jobs 'over there' as a bed of roses. They are a means to an end ........earning a living (good as it is) the best way possible. Does that mean we should abandon them when the country descends into mayhem 'civil war' even?where's the humanity? Folks do what they have to do to make a living.

In all honesty - I'm glad the government see fit to make a rescue plan for Briots in trouble .............how can anyone begrudge that? What about if things in Egypt had turned really nasty and holiday makers were under threat? Wouldn't we all have wanted a rescue operation? Where's the difference?

Thank you slimfern.  And I am off too.  Have a good night everyone.

FFS, I did not say, not once, that my bil was unhappy in Libya.....It's no picnic when he's working, but is work a picnic for any of us? For most folk, as he, it's a means to an end, to pay the bills, put food on the table etc. etc.

super dont get upset hun, hope your bil isnt one of them left in Lybia

Believe me..I don't care. Now can you do the same as you always do and go peddle your drama somewhere else. No actually.....don't. People like it  

You always seem to take away from the subject and bring it onto you. Good going.  The only person who took this thread OT was you.

My girls would call you a Nippy Sweety......but I'm not that rude

Oh well a contentioous thread that got a bit personal maybe.Who'd have thunk it on a Friday night.Such is forum life....  Apologies to all if needed,I can't be arsed to read back.

ooooooooooooooooooooh .............I've been away but - it's all good!

I get mega peed off and took a voluntary  leave of absence but , I'm back  - there really is nothing like it is there

Thing is, most of us can have a good solid debate without resorting to attacks  and it's that we have to keep in mind 

Har Soozy!

What peed you off to that extent? 

For the record..............I'm not wrong 

Well .............................surprisingly - it had nowt to do with you 
Does it matter? We all have an Achilles heel don't we?

It's not a case of saying let them rot but is it right that the British government are footing the bill - surely their employers are the ones that should be paying for their rescue. 

The other thing that really drives me insane though is the way that people are criticising the government - maybe things could have been done better but getting people out of a country like Libya when it falls apart doesn't come with instructions and isn't an easy task therefore mistakes are bound to be made - at the end of the day those living iver there have to remember that they made the choice to go.

Apology accepted 

CC, I'm certainly not in here for a fight, in fact this thread has been the biggest eye opener that I've ever had on here, people so preoccupied with arguing and point scoring that not once did anyone bother to ask if my bil was safe. CC with respect, I don't think you read my posts properly, or at least you put your own incorrect interpretation on them, just as you're accusing others of. I didn't ever say he was unhappy, hates it etc nor did I say he had no choice. Yes I imagine he could have probably found something outside of his area of expertise/ training/ qualifications, but I'm also sure that would have been on a much much lesser salary, that wouldn't have been able to cover the mortgage etc. so in that sense he made his choice, I suppose, to work out there 6 months of the year and be home 6 months and provide well for his family.

Peers intently....

Super.....more or less what I said up there^^^ it's about keeping a roof over your family's head   

Thanks for asking Justa, No he's home now and safe thank God, (although he does have friends/colleagues who are still stuck out there.)

Indeed. I seem to have more heels than the average person 

i agree Cags, so we must both be right

Yes they did but .............................if they are in danger would you not want to see a rescue plan put into operation? Would yo rather see them tortured or possibly killed? It's not really as if this sort of thing happens every week is it? They are Britons abroad that have got caught up in a nightmare .................do you honestly begrudge the expense? In the grand scale of things - it's a drop in the ocean - how would you feel if it was a relative stuck out there making a legitimate living?

The company I work for has in the past few weeks returned many employees from Cairo, Bahrain and Tripoli at company expense to their home countries.  As far as I know none of these people returned to their home countries via a government flight.

The Government acted far too slow - pure & simple!

Guess that's why Cameron apologised

Please don't take offence at this but the message I am getting from this post is that he has satyed out there for money - chosen to risk his life for money - now that is completely his choice and I don't wish any harm upon him but I think people in his situation have to understand that they are responsible for their current situation and stop trying to lay the blame at the Governments door for making mistakes in getting them out of there.  He and many others have gone out of choice and whilst I hope that they all get back safely I really don't think that the Governemnt should be the ones footing the bill for that.

But who wouldn't want to provide the best they can for their family? and.......I say it again........a roof over their head.

Okay when holiday firms etc collapse,we usually get them home etc.I see no difference  in the situation with those that have been working abroad,no matter the circumstances...just get them home, the money/blame etc can be worked out later.Just do it..without a cost effective accountant deeming it worthwhile.

6 minutes....

A family needs more than money - surely taking a risk with your life isn't providing the best for your family - yes it may provide material items but we are in a sorry state of affirs when that becomes the most important thing in life.

Love him or hate him - Gadaffi has governed a stable country (not one we approve of but stable all the same) for the last forty years. I really don't see how working in Lybia has been risking your life. PP ...........you  do say some very silly things to back up your points.

Shurrup you! I'm trying to keep the peace 

i don't think it's a matter of who is footing the bill PP, (although I'm sure I read somewhere someone saying something like they've made their bed, let them lay in it, I'd have to go back to check.) I'm sure that every single one of them out there with the means would happily pay for the flight themselves, if those flights were available......I know it's not easy .....Would it please you if and when the people I know who are still out there get back I wag my finger at them and say "Hey, well, it was your choice"

I agree....