Well said Prom..there seems to be a bit of "Let them suffer/maybe die " etc going on.Imagine if it was your husband/son etc.
Originally Posted by Prometheus:
Why should he come back if the quality of life is better for him elsewhere?
Prom, I know I'm personalising this, (for fairly obvious reasons!) but the thing is, for the people I know who work out there, their quality of life when they're actually out there is carp, they're in the middle of nowhere, away from their families and pretty much all they do is work and sleep, maybe sometimes have the odd game of cards or a bit of a quiz in one and other's houses on the camp. They have tbf in the last couple of years been given the luxury of a mobile phone signal!And as for those who are saying none of these people pay UK taxes, that's simply not true http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Mo...ntoTheUK/DG_10026136
way i see it is..
dont matter where you are-if it goes tits up and its political-get your people out
if i was in charge-i would
and a bit quick like..
dont matter where you are-if it goes tits up and its political-get your people out
if i was in charge-i would
and a bit quick like..
Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Originally Posted by Prometheus:
Why should he come back if the quality of life is better for him elsewhere?
Prom, I know I'm personalising this, (for fairly obvious reasons!) but the thing is, for the people I know who work out there, their quality of life when they're actually out there is carp, they're in the middle of nowhere, away from their families and pretty much all they do is work and sleep, maybe sometimes have the odd game of cards or a bit of a quiz in one and other's houses on the camp. They have tbf in the last couple of years been given the luxury of a mobile phone signal!And as for those who are saying none of these people pay UK taxes, that's simply not true http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Mo...ntoTheUK/DG_10026136
Why is that Soops? Is the pay that bad or are they earning good money but have nowhere to spend it? It sounds more like an existence than a life.
I'm being ignored , thanks guys, I thought I had a place in this forum, obvouisly not. 
Originally Posted by Prometheus:
Originally Posted by Cupcake:
why did he not return when things got better over here? (and they did get better...) So why stay 30 years? He must have wanted to stay out there.
Why should he come back if the quality of life is better for him elsewhere? What's your problem exactly? And contrary to your earlier post those people are our responsibility. If they have British passports and they're caught in a war zone it's our responsibility to get them out. That's not an opinion, it's a fact.
I totally agree. I'm the 1st to criticise people for shying away from contributing to this country but I draw the line at leaving a person to suffer in a conflict that they had no part of. There but for the grace of God......
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
I'm being ignored , thanks guys, I thought I had a place in this forum, obvouisly not.
Who said that?
Call me Dave and his parasite Clegg..weren't sure who was in charge etc...
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
I'm being ignored , thanks guys, I thought I had a place in this forum, obvouisly not.
I would never ignore you Col 
I'm about an hour behind here coz I'm trying to get the kids to bed, drink, post on here and watch Storm of the Century
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
I'm being ignored , thanks guys, I thought I had a place in this forum, obvouisly not.
cos you have a go on people..?
I don't think folk are being ignored Cologne,just posting a point etc.I don't always look for a direct reply,however I will re-read back.
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
I'm being ignored , thanks guys, I thought I had a place in this forum, obvouisly not.
I dont always quote ........doesn't mean I'm ignoring.n I read your posts 
Originally Posted by Cagney:
post on here and watch Storm of the Century
That's a great film Cags
I've read all posts on this thread.Cologne you have had experience of such things etc.However folk can still give an opinion,maybe not factually correct etc...still an opinion.
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
I'm being ignored , thanks guys, I thought I had a place in this forum, obvouisly not.
I dont always quote ........doesn't mean I'm ignoring.n I read your posts It's just simply not possible to reply to everyone's post
I'm on the cider again....
PROM
Cagney
Oh dear LOL ROFL LMAOF! I suggest PROM AND CAGNEY that you BOTH read the thread properly and read super's post that I was answering to, before making spiteful nasty remarks, calling me bitter and narrow minded, and spout childish remarks like 'what is your problem?!!' Super said that her brother in law's life was not good and not enjoyable and he wasn't neccesarily happy out there in LIBYA, and THAT is why I said why stay out there for THIRTY YEARS then? It can't be that bad if he has stayed all that time. It was a perfectly reasonable and valid question, and was in no way an attack or 'bitter' or narrow minded..... obviously you didn't bother to even read the thread properly or read super's post that I was responding to properly (if at all,), and you probably didn't even read my post properly either.
Feel a bit daft now? you should, because you - and by you I mean Cagney - launched a spiteful attack on me for NOTHING. Apologise when you're ready... i won't hold my breath though...
DO read peoples' posts before launching an attack though my dears, as its very easy to make yourself look rather silly if you're not careful. And as for your comment PROM,..... You do assume that YOUR opinion is the only correct one rather a lot don't you?
quote:Why should he come back if the quality of life is better for him elsewhere? What's your problem exactly? And contrary to your earlier post those people are our responsibility. If they have British passports and they're caught in a war zone it's our responsibility to get them out. That's not an opinion, it's a fact.
Cagney
quote:
I bet any person on here would do things to make their family life better.
Nah I take that back. There are some on here who are so bitter and narrow minded that the feelings of another person (never mind many people) is something way beyond their comprehension.
Oh dear LOL ROFL LMAOF! I suggest PROM AND CAGNEY that you BOTH read the thread properly and read super's post that I was answering to, before making spiteful nasty remarks, calling me bitter and narrow minded, and spout childish remarks like 'what is your problem?!!' Super said that her brother in law's life was not good and not enjoyable and he wasn't neccesarily happy out there in LIBYA, and THAT is why I said why stay out there for THIRTY YEARS then? It can't be that bad if he has stayed all that time. It was a perfectly reasonable and valid question, and was in no way an attack or 'bitter' or narrow minded..... obviously you didn't bother to even read the thread properly or read super's post that I was responding to properly (if at all,), and you probably didn't even read my post properly either.
Feel a bit daft now? you should, because you - and by you I mean Cagney - launched a spiteful attack on me for NOTHING. Apologise when you're ready... i won't hold my breath though...
DO read peoples' posts before launching an attack though my dears, as its very easy to make yourself look rather silly if you're not careful. And as for your comment PROM,..... You do assume that YOUR opinion is the only correct one rather a lot don't you? 
Originally Posted by Prometheus:
Why is that Soops? Is the pay that bad or are they earning good money but have nowhere to spend it? It sounds more like an existence than a life.
Where my bil is the pay is pretty good Prom, (not a whole lot more than if he could get the same kind of work in or around his home,) but, there's nowhere to spend it out there. It is an 'existence' when they're out there but they work month on/month off, so the compensation is the time at home.....So these people pay UK taxes, are UK residents, contribute to the UK economy etc. But Oh Yeah, let's just let 'em rot out there, they should have been more responsible blah blah blah
I like the apple and the grape..lol.
Originally Posted by Cupcake:
its very easy to make yourself look rather silly if you're not careful.
katty
FFS nobody is saying that! Why are people only seeing what they want to see on here tonight? People are only saying that if people choose a life over there and turn their backs on the UK, then why the eff should it be the UK governments responsibility to get them back? People are entitled to a view without being accused of wishing DEATH on folk!
quote:Well said Prom..there seems to be a bit of "Let them suffer/maybe die " etc going on.Imagine if it was your husband/son etc.
FFS nobody is saying that! Why are people only seeing what they want to see on here tonight? People are only saying that if people choose a life over there and turn their backs on the UK, then why the eff should it be the UK governments responsibility to get them back? People are entitled to a view without being accused of wishing DEATH on folk!
Originally Posted by Cupcake:
PROM
Cagney
Oh dear LOL ROFL LMAOF! I suggest PROM AND CAGNEY that you BOTH read the thread properly and read super's post that I was answering to, before making spiteful nasty remarks, calling me bitter and narrow minded, and spout childish remarks like 'what is your problem?!!' Super said that her brother in law's life was not good and not enjoyable and he wasn't neccesarily happy out there in LIBYA, and THAT is why I said why stay out there for THIRTY YEARS then? It can't be that bad if he has stayed all that time. It was a perfectly reasonable and valid question, and was in no way an attack or 'bitter' or narrow minded..... obviously you didn't bother to even read the thread properly or read super's post that I was responding to properly (if at all,), and you probably didn't even read my post properly either.
Feel a bit daft now? you should, because you - and by you I mean Cagney - launched a spiteful attack on me for NOTHING. Apologise when you're ready... i won't hold my breath though... DO read peoples' posts before launching an attack though my dears, as its very easy to make yourself look rather silly if you're not careful. And as for your comment PROM,..... You do assume that YOUR opinion is the only correct one rather a lot don't you?
With an unsettled economy as ours has been for the past XXX years - that it is best to stay in a dependable job to keep ones family above water ??? Wherever it may be ...and lets not forget that monies sent home to loved ones is spent here & therefore contributing to this countries ever demanding tax system !quote:Why should he come back if the quality of life is better for him elsewhere? What's your problem exactly? And contrary to your earlier post those people are our responsibility. If they have British passports and they're caught in a war zone it's our responsibility to get them out. That's not an opinion, it's a fact.
Cagney
quote:
I bet any person on here would do things to make their family life better.
Nah I take that back. There are some on here who are so bitter and narrow minded that the feelings of another person (never mind many people) is something way beyond their comprehension.
Oh dear LOL ROFL LMAOF! I suggest PROM AND CAGNEY that you BOTH read the thread properly and read super's post that I was answering to, before making spiteful nasty remarks, calling me bitter and narrow minded, and spout childish remarks like 'what is your problem?!!' Super said that her brother in law's life was not good and not enjoyable and he wasn't neccesarily happy out there in LIBYA, and THAT is why I said why stay out there for THIRTY YEARS then? It can't be that bad if he has stayed all that time. It was a perfectly reasonable and valid question, and was in no way an attack or 'bitter' or narrow minded..... obviously you didn't bother to even read the thread properly or read super's post that I was responding to properly (if at all,), and you probably didn't even read my post properly either.
Feel a bit daft now? you should, because you - and by you I mean Cagney - launched a spiteful attack on me for NOTHING. Apologise when you're ready... i won't hold my breath though...
DO read peoples' posts before launching an attack though my dears, as its very easy to make yourself look rather silly if you're not careful. And as for your comment PROM,..... You do assume that YOUR opinion is the only correct one rather a lot don't you? 
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
I'm being ignored , thanks guys, I thought I had a place in this forum, obvouisly not.
I replied Col....
Thanks sproot, people REALLY need to read posts PROPERLY before launching spiteful and scathing attacks. 
Originally Posted by Cupcake:
I don't really buy this... Yes in the 80s, it was a tough time (as it is now,) and some folk went abroad to work, but I find it hard to believe that your BIL couldn't get any work in any other country outside of the middle east for 30 years. I mean, there was a rough time for a while, but why did he not return when things got better over here? (and they did get better...) So why stay 30 years? He must have wanted to stay out there.
"I don't really buy this". I just thought I'd post Cupcake's full quote for her as she has selective amnesia again and has completely forgotten what she was bleating on about earlier.
Fffffssss sake.!...did I mention you by name...no...you assumed,carry on.Oh Friday nights...
Originally Posted by Cupcake:
Thanks sproot, people REALLY need to read posts PROPERLY before launching spiteful and scathing attacks.
Actually CC, I'm trying to be diplomatic when I refer to your posts re my editing. Could you chill out and have a sensible debate please? quote:With an unsettled economy as ours has been for the past XXX years - that it is best to stay in a dependable job to keep ones family above water ??? Wherever it may be ...and lets not forget that monies sent home to loved ones is spent here & therefore contributing to this countries ever demanding tax system !
Thanks Slim. Good point I guess, but that is all i was querying; why stay? If he hates it so? Because i am sure there are other jobs elsewhere that pay well.... I didn't deserve to be attacked... but as I said, the person/people in question obviously didn't even read my post properly OR super's, because the attacks don't even make sense....
Originally Posted by Cupcake:
Super said that her brother in law's life was not good and not enjoyable and he wasn't neccesarily happy out there in LIBYA,
Did I? I don't remember that.So, to prevent any further misunderstanding, the lifestyle when he is out there is a far cry from the stereotype of Brit's living it up abroad on mega tax fee salaries that seems to being perpetuated by some on here, but he does have a 'comfortable' life when he's at home and his family are well cared for.
Oh, and thanks for all of those who asked me if he's okay/safe btw...Oh oops, no-one did, never mind!
Originally Posted by Cupcake:
Feel a bit daft now? you should, because you - and by you I mean Cagney - launched a spiteful attack on me for NOTHING. Apologise when you're ready... i won't hold my breath though...
DO read peoples' posts before launching an attack though my dears, as its very easy to make yourself look rather silly if you're not careful. And as for your comment PROM,..... You do assume that YOUR opinion is the only correct one rather a lot don't you? 
An awful lot of people are in jobs they aren't that whoop-de-doo about. Decent salary does not equal deep career joy.
Supes
Supes
I am not even responding to your posts again on here PROM, as you're clearly not only spoiling for a fight, but you also can't be arsed to even read or 'get' my posts. Super had said her BIL was unhappy in Libya, and yet he stayed for 30 years and I just asked why... now do me a favour, buggar off and pick on someone else... I asked perfectly reasonable questions, and don't have to answer to you, so now shan't be responding to you again on here, because you're just seeing what you want to see. As usual.!
Ahm aff tae the hammy thread!
i think if they can be got out then get them out. i dont want to think about what would happen to them if gadafis men got to them.
CAGNEY
Yes but you CARE enough to have a nasty spiteful dig at me Cagney, UNDESERVED of course, as you now realise..... now you can do the same as Prom and go pick on someone else! I am not talking to you again on here either. Will you admit you're wrong? of course not... then you would have to apologise... to me... as if you would....
quote:Spiteful? That would be valid if I even knew you. I don't know you...I don't care about you.
Yes but you CARE enough to have a nasty spiteful dig at me Cagney,
UNDESERVED of course, as you now realise..... now you can do the same as Prom and go pick on someone else! I am not talking to you again on here either. Will you admit you're wrong? of course not... then you would have to apologise... to me... as if you would.... Originally Posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Originally Posted by Cupcake:
Super said that her brother in law's life was not good and not enjoyable and he wasn't neccesarily happy out there in LIBYA,
Did I? I don't remember that.So, to prevent any further misunderstanding, the lifestyle when he is out there is a far cry from the stereotype of Brit's living it up abroad on mega tax fee salaries that seems to being perpetuated by some on here, but he does have a 'comfortable' life when he's at home and his family are well cared for.
Oh, and thanks for all of those who asked me if he's okay/safe btw...Oh oops, no-one did, never mind!
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
I'm being ignored , thanks guys, I thought I had a place in this forum, obvouisly not.
Col, I'm sorry if you felt ignored/I didn't reply to your posts...I was a little preoccupied with replying to others, I'm sure you will understand why, given how v real and personal this is for me atm. Maybe that should be my cue to leave this thread