I am not liking her anymore but she has made me laugh recently, such as when she showed David that he was in fact camp!

Much as I hate to say it.... I agree Amythist.... and I never thought I would be able to say that. While others impressed me initially, and then went down hill, Lisa has improved...just a little

I've never really disliked her, tbh ..... but I'm not sure I would want to see her win (although I think that is highly unlikely anyway).

No Im not falling for it you saw some of the old Lisa again when she was up for eviction. She is responsible for the way the house divided so early on and the way it is even now.

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Originally posted by Poker Face:
I've never really disliked her, tbh ..... but I'm not sure I would want to see her win (although I think that is highly unlikely anyway).

A slight warming doesnt mean I want her to win, oh no, just slightly less deafening boos!

I am warming to her she seems to be relaxed and smiling more definitely seeing the softer side to her.

She's got her eye on the finishing post. Nothing more. I consider it the one big failing of this BB that we weren't able to get her out when her hectoring and bullying was at its most flagrant.

There are plenty of housemates as bad/worse than she is. Specifically Marcus and Charlie.

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Originally posted by captain marbles:
She's got her eye on the finishing post. Nothing more. I consider it the one big failing of this BB that we weren't able to get her out when her hectoring and bullying was at its most flagrant.

yes,it was a missed opportunity....but Im not missing Hira!

Not really.

She's had 2 warnings for aggressive behaviour and I'm not mad keen on aggressive people.

Plus she's been a grumpy bore for most of the series.

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Originally posted by ѕρι∂єямσηкєγ:
There are plenty of housemates as bad/worse than she is. Specifically Marcus and Charlie.

I agree.

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Originally posted by Amythist:

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Originally posted by captain marbles:
She's got her eye on the finishing post. Nothing more. I consider it the one big failing of this BB that we weren't able to get her out when her hectoring and bullying was at its most flagrant.

yes,it was a missed opportunity....but Im not missing Hira!

Yeah, she was a right stirrer.

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Originally posted by CaptVimes:
No Im not falling for it you saw some of the old Lisa again when she was up for eviction. She is responsible for the way the house divided so early on and the way it is even now.

I will also never forget how she treated Freddy

Don't really like her but much prefer her to the awful Charlie

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Originally posted by Avalon Moonlight:
Don't really like her but much prefer her to the awful Charlie

I love your sig Avalon

I am, a bit. I can't forget what she was like in the early stages, she did divide the house, and she was awful to Freddie.

But, maybe she got warned, and has heeded those warnings. I've found her quite amusing, and I actually like her down-to-earth approach to most things. If people change their attitude for the better, can we not give a little forgiveness?

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by CaptVimes:
No Im not falling for it you saw some of the old Lisa again when she was up for eviction. She is responsible for the way the house divided so early on and the way it is even now.

I will also never forget how she treated Freddy

yes she was horrible , I was forgetting how bad she was....she has mellowed so much

I've had a change of heart but I wouldn't really call it warming to her. Where she was at the top of my 'dislike' list, she's now slipped down a few places as a couple of others have seriously overtaken her.

She's not half as bad as some in there.

Hmmm, Lisa. My thoughts?

Well she was rotten to begin with. She's spent most of her time on the smokers bench fagging it. She was hugely responsible for the treatment and the isolation of Freddie. in fact when Freddie got his makeover it was as though Lisa 'allowed' the other HMs to cut him some slack. I remember her standing outside the bedroom saying how cool he looked and how he'd been really different that week.....

She has backed away from a lot of conflict, and been savvy enough to keep her head down when it mattered.

She DID NOT survive an eviction though. She had more supporters than Hira on a vote to save.

On the plus side, I like her honesty and frankness that she shows at times. She is older than the others and has been fairly consistant which is a good quality. I think she's had a game head on for a lot of her time in there and i've no idea if she's as bad as I originally thought or if my view was marred because she was in an opposite camp to one of my favourite housemates.

Lately I have found her to be okay. I do not want her to win, but I'd rather she was there than say ... Charlie.

I don't know if I'm exactly 'warming' to her OP, but she's alright I suppose.

Would rather see a few go before her!
Charlie
Bea
Marcus
David
and even Rod!

No not at all.
BB is at a tricky stage now, where they have to turn inwards on each other.
She is trying to keep a lid on her nastiness because she realises it would be to her advantage.
But whatever she does now does not over-ride the unpleasantness.
I have not forgotten how nasty she can be.
Her nastiness was not a rare fleeting thing which was untypical. She IS nasty.

I've been distracted to how awful Lisa can be by the entrance of the more awful Dave and Bea.... oh and not forgettting the Prince of Clowns Charlie. I'd rather she stayed than those three, simply because she cooled her corkers when she was warned and found out she wasn't the coolest gay in town from the newbies.

She's had the odd moment
Loved her talking about visiting her nan in the nursing home, and all the other old dears thinking she was the "grandson"

But I can't get past her aggression in the early days, which was awful.

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Originally posted by captain marbles:
She's got her eye on the finishing post. Nothing more. I consider it the one big failing of this BB that we weren't able to get her out when her hectoring and bullying was at its most flagrant.

Totally agree, I will never be gullible enough to fall for her act, for that is all it is.

For me she has ruined this Big Brother.

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Originally posted by Demantoid:
She's had the odd moment
Loved her talking about visiting her nan in the nursing home, and all the other old dears thinking she was the "grandson"

But I can't get past her aggression in the early days, which was awful.

Yes she was bad,really ignorant and chippy with it.

But we are seeing a better side of her now,but it is probably largely due to the fact shes won....and Freddies gone.I think she is playing a careful game , keeping a lid on it.

i cant stand her i have a good memory

Yes im liking her more and more.... Loved when she shut Bea up lastnight ....

She's ok. I don't have a problem with her.

Noooo never.

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Originally posted by Amythist:
Never thought Id say it but I'm developing some degree of grudging respect for Lisa . She has calmed down a lot (probably due to having a lot of tobacco which wont run out)and was very straight with Bea about why she nominated her.I admired her for saying she didnt like her "me me me" behaviour eclipsing everyone elses messages.

Marcus says shes the only one who hasnt cahnged and is always herself.I think shes less agressive than she was at the beginning,shes more confident now, having survived all this time and an eviction.

I dont really like her but she is growing on me a bit....consireing she was public enemy number one before the new HM's came in.

Have to agree for your reasons and when she had a short chat with Marcus in the pool (I'm not a great fan of his although He's growing on me too)about him putting up barriers in defence etc - then there's her relationship with David who I love (second to Rodrigo) and her imitation of David's 'campness' was my biggest laugh to date!

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
Yes im liking her more and more.... Loved when she shut Bea up lastnight ....

Thats when I realised I didnt hate her anymore!

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Originally posted by Amythist:

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
Yes im liking her more and more.... Loved when she shut Bea up lastnight ....

Thats when I realised I didnt hate her anymore!

Me too ... Bea was stunned and couldnt believe no one was telling her she is the most wonderful-est human being

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Originally posted by Amythist:

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
Yes im liking her more and more.... Loved when she shut Bea up lastnight ....

Thats when I realised I didnt hate her anymore!

Ditto

I just think shes seems to have lightened up a bit.David seems to have brought out a more playful side to her(of course it may have always been there..we've just not seen it as the editors thought a few million hmmmmmssss were more worthy of brodcast!)

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Originally posted by gma:

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Originally posted by Amythist:
Never thought Id say it but I'm developing some degree of grudging respect for Lisa . She has calmed down a lot (probably due to having a lot of tobacco which wont run out)and was very straight with Bea about why she nominated her.I admired her for saying she didnt like her "me me me" behaviour eclipsing everyone elses messages.

Marcus says shes the only one who hasnt cahnged and is always herself.I think shes less agressive than she was at the beginning,shes more confident now, having survived all this time and an eviction.

I dont really like her but she is growing on me a bit....consireing she was public enemy number one before the new HM's came in.

Have to agree for your reasons and when she had a short chat with Marcus in the pool (I'm not a great fan of his although He's growing on me too)about him putting up barriers in defence etc - then there's her relationship with David who I love (second to Rodrigo) and her imitation of David's 'campness' was my biggest laugh to date!

Had me in stitches too

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Originally posted by Mazzystar:

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Originally posted by Amythist:

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
Yes im liking her more and more.... Loved when she shut Bea up lastnight ....

Thats when I realised I didnt hate her anymore!

Ditto

I just think shes seems to have lightened up a bit.David seems to have brought out a more playful side to her(of course it may have always been there..we've just not seen it as the editors thought a few million hmmmmmssss were more worthy of brodcast!)

Lisa is supposed to be BB10s villian and her only clips should be of her shouting the roof off or at the bus-stop chain smoking....

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Originally posted by The Guru:
Not really.

She's had 2 warnings for aggressive behaviour and I'm not mad keen on aggressive people.

Plus she's been a grumpy bore for most of the series.

my thoughts too Guru!
ps.I wrote a fairly long post on spiders'thread yesterday to air my thoughts on Lisa!!!

Nope,Freddie did not the deserve the level of hatred and spite she threw at him.Still loathe the bitch.

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Originally posted by figtree:

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Originally posted by The Guru:
Not really.

She's had 2 warnings for aggressive behaviour and I'm not mad keen on aggressive people.

Plus she's been a grumpy bore for most of the series.

my thoughts too Guru!
ps.I wrote a fairly long post on spiders'thread yesterday to air my thoughts on Lisa!!!

I just checked out your post on the thread...
'I thought Lisa was good again tonight, help!'

Agree with every word, especially the bit about people liking Lisa more just because she had a go at Bea.

Never, she's crafty and only ever thinks of herself.