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Originally posted by Yellow Rose:
BB were nasty in playing that tape, they know how bad he feels since getting involved with the awful Noirin.

He's obviously worried about the questions he'll get, if I was him I'd just say I'm not going to talk about it, they can't control him once he's left the house

He wasn't reminded of it once Yelloe Rose, he had to endure it three night running in what should have been a fun and relaxing final few days for ALL hosemates.

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Originally posted by Dame_Ann_Average:

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Originally posted by Shar:


Yes ... which can be mistaken for conniving and game-planning for those who choose to believe that is what he is doing ... I don't ... I think he's genuine ... I think there are people out there who do have a conscience and morals ... even people who go on BB ... and before anyone starts on about him cheating on his GF ... yes, he did ... but also consider that, while living in the bubble of the BB house, the repercussions of this have not been in his face UNTIL BB decided to throw it in his face ... When this happened and he saw the footage as the public would see it, of course it's going to affect him ... wouldn't the same have been true of the others if BB had shown, for instance, some of the horrible bullying of Freddie that was rife by almost all of them in the first few weeks ...?

It's been totally unfair, I've never known a final week like it. There again it never was a level playing field from the first week of nominations!

Which is why I REALLY hope these dirty tactics backfire completely on BB by The Vash being crowned the winner ...

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Originally posted by Shar:


Which is why I REALLY hope these dirty tactics backfire completely on BB by The Vash being crowned the winner ...

Me too, I'm still voting for The Vash

I hope Siavash's mother is there tomorrow night watching how Davina conducts herself with her son, whether he wins or loses. Any mother watching her son be subjected to the humiliation Siavash has suffered over the past week would be on fire and angry, not only with BB but with anyone who dared to criticise him after what he has had to endure. I hope Mrs S is appropriately fired-up, awaiting the divine Davina when she goes into Siavash-bashing mode.

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
I hope Siavash's mother is there tomorrow night watching how Davina conducts herself with her son, whether he wins or loses. Any mother watching her son be subjected to the humiliation Siavash has suffered over the past week would be on fire and angry, not only with BB but with anyone who dared to criticise him after what he has had to endure. I hope Mrs S is appropriately fired-up, awaiting the divine Davina when she goes into Siavash-bashing mode.

He made a stupid mistake, and now regrets it and he's carrying the guilt. We've all done something we regret, even Davina!

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Originally posted by Dame_Ann_Average:

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Originally posted by Yellow Rose:
BB were nasty in playing that tape, they know how bad he feels since getting involved with the awful Noirin.

He's obviously worried about the questions he'll get, if I was him I'd just say I'm not going to talk about it, they can't control him once he's left the house

He wasn't reminded of it once Yelloe Rose, he had to endure it three night running in what should have been a fun and relaxing final few days for ALL hosemates.

It was a deliberately insensitive thing to do, and if he had walked they should have blamed themselves.

He's been like this throughout the show. Everything is calculated for the airtime and drama. Twat!

If this series hadnt been so short of action they wouldnt need to keep relating it all back to him and noirin...theres been a couple of argumnets but not much else...kris and sophie were unwatchable and isaac left before he came in almost......

In one way this'll work for the Vash.....I fully expect to see him and Noirin on a couple of covers, telling their tale. G'luck to them....hope they make a few bob after this debacle.

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Originally posted by BROXI:
He's been like this throughout the show. Everything is calculated for the airtime and drama. Twat!

I'm sorry but I disagree, no one has looked for more air time than Charlie, Rodrigo and Dave.

Hello peeps.
I am not easily duped by falseness. I genuinely believe Siavash was struggling to make a hard decision, based on his conscience and guilt. He wanted to do what he felt was right.
As there waw only 1 more day to go, I don't think it would have made any difference to his ex if he left yesterday, or a week ago, or 2 weeks ago, or Friday.
I am glad he's stayed and hope his honesty wins.

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Originally posted by WILDER X:
As I do.
He did himself no favours on the hls tonight.

Not at all!!! if he was doing that he could have done a million other things.. he knows what BB is doing, he was in that DR for and hour and a half we saw the 2 min edit... there is no way in hell they were going to let him leave!

He is being given such a hard time in the last three days it is incredible that he hasn't lost his cool!! In all the time he has been in the house, he has never been mean, cruel or bitchy... he has a dignity about him I won't forget in a hurry.
Anyone who has been watching will remember his 13 week experience not the last 3 days of being set up for a fall!! which btw I am still confident he will win..

I'm sorry but for me he's selfish to the end.

Selfish because he left David's party half way through and selfish because he hasn't even considered those who have voted to keep him in, even despite his wrong doing with Noirin.

Wanting to leave 2 days before the final, that's extremely selfish when there are others who would have loved to have been there.

He should have laughed it off this week and stood up at the interview on Friday and told everyone he'd made a very big mistake and that he will take responsiblity for it and apologise to whoever he'd upset.

And what was the throat all about anyway? One minute he's squealing away to songs in the task room the next his voice is going. Jeez Siavash what do you expect?

And thenhe lied to his best friend, Sophie. Not very nice, that.

Siavash is just a big girl's blouse who runs away whenever things don't go his way. He needs to face up to his mistakes and deal with them.

I'd rather Charlie won to be honest, and that's saying something.

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Originally posted by BROXI:
He's been like this throughout the show. Everything is calculated for the airtime and drama. Twat!

I don't think Siavash is that calculating. Visually, he's a showoff - Mr Fashionista - but mentally and emotionally, he's shy. He was taken in by Noirin, as were four others on the show and has been squirming in embarrassment ever since.

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Originally posted by fz:
If this series hadnt been so short of action they wouldnt need to keep relating it all back to him and noirin...theres been a couple of argumnets but not much else...kris and sophie were unwatchable and isaac left before he came in almost......

In one way this'll work for the Vash.....I fully expect to see him and Noirin on a couple of covers, telling their tale. G'luck to them....hope they make a few bob after this debacle.

I doubt it. That's why he's so embarrassed. He wants nothing to do with her. Instead, he's expressing regret that he's likely hurt his ex-girlfriend and that he'd like to apologise to her and even try to get back with her.

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Originally posted by little_mrs_bb:
I'm sorry but for me he's selfish to the end.

Selfish because he left David's party half way through and selfish because he hasn't even considered those who have voted to keep him in, even despite his wrong doing with Noirin.

Wanting to leave 2 days before the final, that's extremely selfish when there are others who would have loved to have been there.

He should have laughed it off this week and stood up at the interview on Friday and told everyone he'd made a very big mistake and that he will take responsiblity for it and apologise to whoever he'd upset.

And what was the throat all about anyway? One minute he's squealing away to songs in the task room the next his voice is going. Jeez Siavash what do you expect?

And thenhe lied to his best friend, Sophie. Not very nice, that.

Siavash is just a big girl's blouse who runs away whenever things don't go his way. He needs to face up to his mistakes and deal with them.

I'd rather Charlie won to be honest, and that's saying something.

He's not selfish. He's worried. He said in the DR that as he was to be in the final, he had a good chance of winning the show. But, out of respect to his ex-girlfriend, to show her how much he cared and how sorry he was over Noirin, he was willing to give up that chance and walk out.

BB tried to persuade him not to go and then laid a guilt trip on him about David's party. He immediately realised that the party was important to David, so he went along to it, but still determined to go when the time was right after the party.

Siavash's character is not one which could laugh off shame and regret. He has laughed off the terrible outfit he has to wear, but the Noirin thing has been playing on his mind the whole time. He had calmed down about it, but BB cruelly brought it up again.

He has had a cold, hence the jumper he now wears which BB gave to him. Bhs standard issue and not a Siavash jumper at all, but he wears it. He sings at the party and loses his voice. Not unusual during a cold on a day when he's had to stand in the rain for some time doing a task.

Sophie isn't his best friend. He's a loner and a floater. What is he supposed to have lied about?

He has tried to face up to his mistakes and he has tried to deal with them. But you call him selfish for doing so.

I don't feel sorry for him one Iota, his actions have bought the repurcussions, so what if BB are showing him, he hasn't played the game in the way they wanted him too, so they are getting their own back.

All for sympathy if u ask me.

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
I don't feel sorry for him one Iota, his actions have bought the repurcussions, so what if BB are showing him, he hasn't played the game in the way they wanted him too, so they are getting their own back.

All for sympathy if u ask me.

Sophie didn't either.

Where's her comeuppance???

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Originally posted by The Guru:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
I don't feel sorry for him one Iota, his actions have bought the repurcussions, so what if BB are showing him, he hasn't played the game in the way they wanted him too, so they are getting their own back.

All for sympathy if u ask me.

Sophie didn't either.

Where's her comeuppance???

isn't the title about Siavash...not discussing Sophie or am I confused?

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:

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Originally posted by The Guru:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
I don't feel sorry for him one Iota, his actions have bought the repurcussions, so what if BB are showing him, he hasn't played the game in the way they wanted him too, so they are getting their own back.



All for sympathy if u ask me.

Sophie didn't either.

Where's her comeuppance???

isn't the title about Siavash...not discussing Sophie or am I confused?

Fairs fair.. You talk about repurcussions for his behaviour.

Where are Sophies repurcussions for her behaviour???

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Originally posted by Senora Reyes:
I think BB have gone out of thier way, to mind F**k hiom over the whole Noirin affair. Why do a task over 3 days to remind him of his biggest regret?

BB have never wanted Siavash to win, they never thought he would be so popular. The chosen ones were always Charlie and Rodrigo.

They've kind of settled for Sophie by default. The whole thing stinks to high heaven. If he wanted to garner sympathy he would have told the HM's how he was feeling, he didn't. I doubt you will agree with my points, after all I am a Siavash fan, so we won't see eye to eye on this, but in answer to your question no I don't think he is looking for sympathy.

Very well said.
I totally agree.

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Proves 1 thing to me BB doing a fine hatchet job on Siavash,

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No ,but that's what BB want you to think.

I never buy into any of this xyz house mate is not the one BB wants to win, or it's a bb hatchet job. It was Siavash who decided he wanted to leave 48 hours before the show ended.

I wish the rule was introduced, if you go into
the diary room saying you want to leave, you get ejected from the house immediately.

Siavash is going for the sympathy vote. If he did not want BB to keep on about his time with Noirin then he should stop giving them the ammunition.
His reaction to it all have been incredibly childish and the more he performs the more BB are going to highlight it.

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Originally posted by luxor:
Siavash is going for the sympathy vote. If he did not want BB to keep on about his time with Noirin then he should stop giving them the ammunition.
His reaction to it all have been incredibly childish and the more he performs the more BB are going to highlight it.

Name 1 bb final where they have singled out 1 hm out of 6 for embarrassing/harsh treatment whilst the other 5 get off scott free?

The final week is usually fun for all those involved without BB singling out a patricular hm.

I'm in two minds...he's not convinced me before at times, seemed at bit contrived..but when those four threatened to leave..i think he really would have (whilst charlie bottled it lol)..I think he probably was going to leave last night..but the temptation to stay must have been massive..I really can't decide but am teetering towards that he wasn't going for the sympathy vote...*shrugs*

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Originally posted by The Guru:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:

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Originally posted by The Guru:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
I don't feel sorry for him one Iota, his actions have bought the repurcussions, so what if BB are showing him, he hasn't played the game in the way they wanted him too, so they are getting their own back.



All for sympathy if u ask me.

Sophie didn't either.

Where's her comeuppance???

isn't the title about Siavash...not discussing Sophie or am I confused?

Fairs fair.. You talk about repurcussions for his behaviour.

Where are Sophies repurcussions for her behaviour???

your missing my point this thread is about Siavash if you want to discuss Sophie start a thread, I am giving my opinion on what has been asked. It is easy to bring other HMs action into the equasion to deflect from what is being asked isn't it?

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Originally posted by RZB:

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Proves 1 thing to me BB doing a fine hatchet job on Siavash,

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No ,but that's what BB want you to think.

I never buy into any of this xyz house mate is not the one BB wants to win, or it's a bb hatchet job. It was Siavash who decided he wanted to leave 48 hours before the show ended.

I wish the rule was introduced, if you go into
the diary room saying you want to leave, you get ejected from the house immediately.

I agree RZB, they seem to do it so loosely

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Originally posted by RZB:

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Proves 1 thing to me BB doing a fine hatchet job on Siavash,

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No ,but that's what BB want you to think.

I never buy into any of this xyz house mate is not the one BB wants to win, or it's a bb hatchet job. It was Siavash who decided he wanted to leave 48 hours before the show ended.

I wish the rule was introduced, if you go into
the diary room saying you want to leave, you get ejected from the house immediately.

HI RZB - I don't buy the conspiracy theories either, and I SO wish they would just hook them off if they say they want to leave... I bet there wouldn't be so much faux soul searching went on then. They're ALL gameplayers and Siavash more than most.... or else he's just a complete fool who's bought into all the bullcrap he's spouted about himself.

Anyone going to answer why Vash is being singled out in the final week?

Anyone got any examples of this happening before now?

Final week is usually fun for all those involved.

Anyone going to answer why Vash is being singled out in the final week?[/quote]


I have already, they have singled him out because he hasn't played by their rules, simples.

I cannot recollect it happening on finals week but has with other HMs

Fun?.... think BB are just fed up with this lot IMO.

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
Anyone going to answer why Vash is being singled out in the final week?

I have already, they have singled him out because he hasn't played by their rules, simples.

I cannot recollect it happening on finals week but has with other HMs

Fun?.... think BB are just fed up with this lot IMO.[/QUOTE]

I agree... revenge is sweet and all that - how does HE like being wrong'footed? Fun? Why bring fun into it at this late stage eh?

Gets no sympathy from me, his behaviour is disgusting and he did not like one bit David having attention.It was his choice to give away his clothes and his choice to get with Noirin, did he not know the cameras were on him? Absolute nonsence, he is keeping it going with his dramatics and loving the attention it brings

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Originally posted by jennywren:

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Originally posted by little_mrs_bb:
I'm sorry but for me he's selfish to the end.

Selfish because he left David's party half way through and selfish because he hasn't even considered those who have voted to keep him in, even despite his wrong doing with Noirin.

Wanting to leave 2 days before the final, that's extremely selfish when there are others who would have loved to have been there.

He should have laughed it off this week and stood up at the interview on Friday and told everyone he'd made a very big mistake and that he will take responsiblity for it and apologise to whoever he'd upset.

And what was the throat all about anyway? One minute he's squealing away to songs in the task room the next his voice is going. Jeez Siavash what do you expect?

And thenhe lied to his best friend, Sophie. Not very nice, that.

Siavash is just a big girl's blouse who runs away whenever things don't go his way. He needs to face up to his mistakes and deal with them.

I'd rather Charlie won to be honest, and that's saying something.

Sophie isn't his best friend. He's a loner and a floater. What is he supposed to have lied about?

He lied about the time he spent in the diary room saying he'd seen a doctor. He even called her a stupid woman when she'd said she thought he was leaving.

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Originally posted by little_mrs_bb:
I'm sorry but for me he's selfish to the end.

Selfish because he left David's party half way through and selfish because he hasn't even considered those who have voted to keep him in, even despite his wrong doing with Noirin.

Wanting to leave 2 days before the final, that's extremely selfish when there are others who would have loved to have been there.

He should have laughed it off this week and stood up at the interview on Friday and told everyone he'd made a very big mistake and that he will take responsiblity for it and apologise to whoever he'd upset.

And what was the throat all about anyway? One minute he's squealing away to songs in the task room the next his voice is going. Jeez Siavash what do you expect?

And thenhe lied to his best friend, Sophie. Not very nice, that.

Siavash is just a big girl's blouse who runs away whenever things don't go his way. He needs to face up to his mistakes and deal with them.

I'd rather Charlie won to be honest, and that's saying something.

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Originally posted by Shar:
No ... I don't ... I think he's had the whole noirin thing thrown in his face by BB ... it's affected him deeply and has obviously been playing on his mind ... he's human ... he's been living in a bubble in the house for weeks ... Noirin has been gone for weeks ... The whole thing is suddenly brought up again ... BB SHOWS him how it looked on TV ... how is that NOT going to mess with his mind ...?

Pretty much my reaction.

I think they (BB) have freaked him out by showing him the footage, to the point where he thinks he is probably hated on the outside.

If anyone was fishing for sympathy it was Charlie during the ranking task. I half expected Hoppipolla by Sigur Ros to start playing as they all hug in slo-mo.

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Originally posted by little_mrs_bb:

He lied about the time he spent in the diary room saying he'd seen a doctor. He even called her a stupid woman when she'd said she thought he was leaving.

He didn't want to draw attention to the idea he was leaving because the other HMs would have tried to talk him out of it. He did not call her a stupid woman in anger.

You really are churning around looking for stuff to trash Siavash with, aren't you?

I don't think that Siavash is going for the sympathy vote. But if anyone does deserve sympathy, that person must be Siavash. He has obviously got a nasty throat infection, yet BB have asked him to wear a tight lycra lightweight outfit more fitting to temperatures in excess of 70 degrees, and not the drop in temperatures we are all experiencing in the UK at present. They give him a warm jumper, a jumper that any self-respecting grandad would shy away from. They ask him to go out and do a task in the rain, whilst giving the others permission to wear coats and hoodies. Yet Siavash is expected to do the task in the rain with a sad excuse for a hat/umbrella to cover his head. For someone with a throat infection this is not the best possible aide to recovery methinks.

The way Siavash is being treated by BB is bordering on cruelty, it is bordering on vicious bullying, it is bordering on the unacceptable face of sheer and vicious schadenfreude. Anyone who thinks that this sort of treatment is acceptable and who does not think that a sympathy vote is appropriate for what Siavash is having to endure, is losing the plot slightly. On a humane level it is wrong.

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Originally posted by jennywren:

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Originally posted by little_mrs_bb:

He lied about the time he spent in the diary room saying he'd seen a doctor. He even called her a stupid woman when she'd said she thought he was leaving.

You really are churning around looking for stuff to trash Siavash with, aren't you?

Not really, just saying what I've seen.

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
I don't think that Siavash is going for the sympathy vote. But if anyone does deserve sympathy, that person must be Siavash. He has obviously got a nasty throat infection, yet BB have asked him to wear a tight lycra lightweight outfit more fitting to temperatures in excess of 70 degrees, and not the drop in temperatures we are all experiencing in the UK at present. They give him a warm jumper, a jumper that any self-respecting grandad would shy away from. They ask him to go out and do a task in the rain, whilst giving the others permission to wear coats and hoodies. Yet Siavash is expected to do the task in the rain with a sad excuse for a hat/umbrella to cover his head. For someone with a throat infection this is not the best possible aide to recovery methinks.

The way Siavash is being treated by BB is bordering on cruelty, it is bordering on vicious bullying, it is bordering on the unacceptable face of sheer and vicious schadenfreude. Anyone who thinks that this sort of treatment is acceptable and who does not think that a sympathy vote is appropriate for what Siavash is having to endure, is losing the plot slightly. On a humane level it is wrong.

He knows where the door is. After all he is 'not playing the game'. He is only there because he wants to be.

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Originally posted by jennywren:

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Originally posted by fz:
If this series hadnt been so short of action they wouldnt need to keep relating it all back to him and noirin...theres been a couple of argumnets but not much else...kris and sophie were unwatchable and isaac left before he came in almost......

In one way this'll work for the Vash.....I fully expect to see him and Noirin on a couple of covers, telling their tale. G'luck to them....hope they make a few bob after this debacle.

I doubt it. That's why he's so embarrassed. He wants nothing to do with her. Instead, he's expressing regret that he's likely hurt his ex-girlfriend and that he'd like to apologise to her and even try to get back with her.

He is blowing it up out of proportion because he is in the house....with nothing to use as perspective.

He is a 23 yr old who had a kiss and cuddle with someone three months after seeing a girl, that he'd only been seeing for a month, who introduced herself as his friend on BBLB.....seeing the magazine article in the house has added to his paranoia.He didnt commit a cardinal sin worthy of this hysteria.

If the girl on the outside is anything like the fame hungry wannabee on BBBM....then she'll be back with him like a shot....

And I reckon he and Noirin will not be avoiding each other tonight either....give him a couple of weeks back in real life, to get a clearer view of what happened....and I still put money on him and noirin doing a magazine shoot. They are more marketable as a couple than kris and sophie I'd imagine....and at least one couple will get an offer.

The girlfriend will get her apology and maybe a bit of coverage too.....nobody will surely take this seriously once BB is over.

Without a doubt he is going for the sympathy vote more worrying I think he will get it.