'Shut up, it's not me! I'm on the bus!' Shooter's brother's bizarre Facebook  posts after he was mistakenly named as the killer

• Gunman who  opened fire at Sandy Hook Elementary School on Friday morning named as Adam  Lanza, 20, by police sources
• Lanza died  at the scene 'and was carrying brother's ID'
• Brother,  Ryan Lanza, forced to defend himself on Facebook

Ryan Lanza, 24, was seemed unaware that his  younger brother, Adam Lanza, had gunned down 20 children and six adults at Sandy  Hook Elementary School, in  Newtown before taking his own  life.

'Everyone shut the f*** up it wasn't me,'  he insisted  on his Facebook page on Friday. 'I'm on the bus home now it wasn't me. IT WASN'T  ME I WAS AT  WORK IT WASN'T ME.'

The Associated Press said the mix-up came after an official mistakenly transposed the brothers' first names, while a New Jersey reporter said Ryan Lanza told him the killer may have had his ID.

Questioning: Ryan Lanza is led away for questioning by  police after his brother is named as the killer

He is now being questioned by police in  Hoboken, New Jersey, but police said he is not a suspect.

Adam Lanza, 20, was dressed in black military  gear and a  bullet proof vest when he opened fire in the  principal's office and then moving to a kindergarten classroom where his

Sources told the New York Post that Lanza had 'had a dispute with'  his mother, who was found dead at her  home. He then drove to the school in her  car and gunned down her kindergarten  class, Fox reported.

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Poor Ryan, his parents and brother dead and he finds out through hate on social media

I really don't want to get into the issue of comparing tragedies, but I hope you'll forgive me if I compare frequency.

Incidents like Dunblane are - thank God - very rare in this country. However today's shooting is (I think) the 6th of it's type in the States this year - and the second this week.

President Obama has now secured his second term, which means he no longer has to worry about pandering to the electorate.  I think it's pretty clear from his body language today that he knows in his heart what needs to be done: if he also has the courage, then Obama has a very real opportunity to go down in history as the first President to actually do something about gun control...

so so awful

just shocking

I don't understand how they can be so unclear and uncertain about things?

It now appears as though it was the mother who was shot and killed at the house in Newtown, not at the school as was previously reported. Also they are saying that it is not certain if she even worked at that school!

R5 makes rather difficult listening.

That kid they had on air last night talking about how bullets were flying past him and a teacher pulled him into a classroom shocked me a bit tbh. It felt wrong listening to him on the radio straight after going through that.

It seems a forlorn hope to me that congress will ever pass any law that Obama wants, I think the Republicans will always play politics, even in this tragic circumstance,I have a small hope that the  young age of the victims, will silence the gun lobby for long enough so they can get the gun laws  amended.But the 'right to bear arms' would seem far more important to many.

Gun laws need changing they are outrageously permissive...its just too easy for homicidal maniacs to do this.

Unfortunately it will. And yet it still does not lead to anyone in power making changes.

My mate posted this on FB and he's having a 'debate' with an American who thinks he's so wrong.   Apparently if you take away the right to bear arms you're destroying the whole constitution.    I really don't know how anyone can argue with statistics like this.

As someone on my fb posted, 1 person tried to blow up a plane with a shoe bomb so now everyone has to take off their shoes at the airport.  Yet there have been how many school shootings since Columbine and yet there are NO stricter gun laws in place?

Tightening laws would NOT take away their constitutional rights.  They would still be allowed to bear arms BUT there is no reason why there can't be more rules in place making it harder for just ANYONE to obtain a gun.  More checks being done on anyone who wishes to obtain a gun. Limiting the amount of guns....why does anyone need a whole case of guns to protect their land/family?  Surely they can only shoot one (maybe 2) gun(s) at a time?

Just read the flack Piers Morgan is getting in some of the American press, because he's saying people should apply  for a firearms licence, firearms should only be kept in the house  to defend yourself against intruders, mental health issues should automatically stop a person from getting a firearms licence,no criminal or ex criminal should be able to geta  licence.

One comment on the article blasting Morgan says' we need more guns not less, the kids were killed because  they were a weak target, '

Incredible eh?

The worlds gone mad, 22 children and one adult were slashed by a knife man outside an elementry school in China yesterday....

I didn't even hear about that  Poor children, really glad no-one was killed in that attack but those kids must be mentally (and probably physically) scarred for life.  I hope they all get help to deal with it....it could have been so much worse and I'm really glad this attacker didn't have access to a gun.

Revealed: High school photo of massacre gunman at age 15 who 'fought' with  four teachers at Connecticut school the day before shooting only to return and  murder 26 in bloody rampage

• Adam Lanza  visited Sandy Hook school on Thursday and got involved in an 'altercation' with  four members of staff
• Three of the  teachers involved in that argument are now dead
• The fourth wasn't  at school yesterday and is now being interviewed by authorities
• Earlier  reports suggested Lanza was 'buzzed' into the school, but police have confirmed  he forced his way in
• Bodies of the  victims have all been identified and were removed from the school during the  night
• Ana  Marquez-Greene, 7, Jesse Lewis, 6, and six-year-old Grace McDonnell among the  victims
• Teacher Victoria  Soto threw herself in front of her first grade class to protect them from the  gunfire
• Principal Dawn  Hochsprung and school psychologist Mary Sherlach were killed execution-style  after confronting shooter Adam Lanza
• A fourth teacher has been named as Lauren Rousseau,  30

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Unbelievable

Is it usual for an Elementary School to have a therapist and psychologist?

The Constitution says that people have the right to defend themselves and that MILITIAS should have the right to bear arms......so Gun control in the general population does not actually contravene the Constitution

I've read he used his Mum's guns to carry out the killings

Nancy Lanza legally owned a Sig Sauer and a  Glock, both handguns of models  commonly used by police, and a military-style  Bushmaster .223 M4  carbine, according to law enforcement officials who also  believe Adam  Lanza used at least some of those weapons.

Nancy Lanza was an avid gun collector who  once showed him a 'really nice,  high-end rifle' that she had purchased, said  Dan Holmes, owner of a  landscaping business who recently decorated her yard  with Christmas  garlands and lights. 'She said she would often go target  shooting with  her kids.

*speechless*

What does your Avvie say?

It says, "Ha ha ha"

I see that now

5live is grim listening right now. They read out the names and ages of all the victims.

I love it when the pro gun nutters say that you could also kill people with knives or a car...but they seem to forget, cars and knives were designed for other reasons, not to kill people...guns sole reason for being is to kill and injure people.

The US need to scrap this stupid "right to bare arms" law...it's just simply out dated and stupid.

Sadly, the "arms race" response is standard practise for the pro-gun lobby in the States. Instead of considering any form of control, their "answer" to this recent shooting has been to have an armed policeman at the school gates and arm the teachers. Needless to say, they didn't bother to ask how the police or teachers felt about this idea first...

As usual, Bill Hicks got there first. (Warning - contains sweary words.)

Love Wild Bill Hicks.

To my mind, the only people that should be allowed to carry guns are the police (and maybe farmers) 

And the army.

But on DS right now im getting people telling me that those regular people in America need guns to protect themselves from muggers/burglars and so on,  but they seem to overlook that if gun ownership was limited in the States there wouldn't be so many criminals with guns.

So so sad ... I heard about this on Friday as the news broke.

20 girls between the age of 6 + 7 & others too .... ....

• Charlotte Bacon, 6
• Daniel Barden, 7
• Rachel Davino, 29
• Olivia Engel, 6
• Josephine Gay, 7
• Ana Marquez-Greene, 6
• Dawn Hochsprung, 47
• Dylan Hockley, 6
• Madeleine Hsu, 6
• Catherine Hubbard, 6
• Chase Kowalski, 7
• Jesse Lewis, 6
• James Mattioli, 6
• Grace McDonnell, 7
• Anne Marie Murphy, 52
• Emilie Parker, 6
• Jack Pinto, 6
• Noah Pozner, 6
• Caroline Previdi, 6
• Jessica Rekos, 6
• Avielle Richman, 6
• Lauren Russo, 30
• Mary Sherlach, 56
• Victoria Soto,27
• Benjamin Wheeler, 6
• Allison Wyatt, 6

R.I.P ... xx

Appears more of a cultural thing:

"On May 18, 1927, 45 people, including 38 children, were killed when bombs planted by Andrew Kehoe, 55, ripped through the Bath School in Bath Township, Mich., and exploded outside as rescuers arrived at the scene."

Rumour has it that those Westboro Baptists idiots are going to protest at the funerals of the children.  What is wrong with those people? 

I'm finding it hard to watch or read anything about this TBH. I was a the 'Reception' class Nativity play - there were around twenty kids on the stage .......just the thought of someone doing something like that ^^^^^^ little innocent kiddies - it breaks my heart - makes me want to cry.

I really don't mind them being shot

I was watching SPOTY....straight into the 10 o'clock news and this was the first item, They showed the photos of some of the children who were killed and I am really crying!

They're saying that the children were shot multiple times and that Lanza used at least 4 guns and still had hundreds of bullets unused. Shot his mother several times too.