on twitter people slagging dave off cos he says these people are not muslims-theyre monsters
but theyre muslims & monsters
people saying he's trying not to insult muslims because when it comes to election he wants their vote
cam is a twat
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
on twitter people slagging dave off cos he says these people are not muslims-theyre monsters
but theyre muslims & monsters
people saying he's trying not to insult muslims because when it comes to election he wants their vote
They are fanatics and their behaviour is monstrous.
Is it fair to condemn all believers of a faith for the disgusting actions of a few lunatics? I think DC is right on this one.
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
I wish that I had kept the article and I would have to subscribe to read it again. But Dominic Lawson's article in the Sunday Times a couple of weeks ago was as good an analysis I have seen.
Try googling the following and see what you can find........
These beheaders arenât jihadists, theyâre the cast of A Clockwork Orange
Try googling the following and see what you can find........
These beheaders arenât jihadists, theyâre the cast of A Clockwork Orange
I couldn't google what you suggested Carport, but I cannot say how much your reference to Clockwork Orange resonated with the mindless, aggressive brutality that the likes of Alex and his droogs engaged in. 
Originally Posted by Xochi:
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
I wish that I had kept the article and I would have to subscribe to read it again. But Dominic Lawson's article in the Sunday Times a couple of weeks ago was as good an analysis I have seen.
Try googling the following and see what you can find........
These beheaders arenât jihadists, theyâre the cast of A Clockwork Orange
Try googling the following and see what you can find........
These beheaders arenât jihadists, theyâre the cast of A Clockwork Orange
I couldn't google what you suggested Carport, but I cannot say how much your reference to Clockwork Orange resonated with the mindless, aggressive brutality that the likes of Alex and his droogs engaged in.
Xochi, I added a link in one of my posts ^^^^ which reprinted the Dominic Lawson article that Joe mentioned.
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
They are fanatics and their behaviour is monstrous.
Is it fair to condemn all believers of a faith for the disgusting actions of a few lunatics? I think DC is right on this one.
me too Yogi, you cannot blame a race on fanatics
and as much as I despise Cameron, he is right in this instance.
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
They are fanatics and their behaviour is monstrous.
Is it fair to condemn all believers of a faith for the disgusting actions of a few lunatics? I think DC is right on this one.
me too Yogi, you cannot blame a race on fanatics and as much as I despise Cameron, he is right in this instance.
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
on twitter people slagging dave off cos he says these people are not muslims-theyre monsters
but theyre muslims & monsters
people saying he's trying not to insult muslims because when it comes to election he wants their vote
They are fanatics and their behaviour is monstrous.
Is it fair to condemn all believers of a faith for the disgusting actions of a few lunatics? I think DC is right on this one.
not my view
im telling you what people are saying
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
on twitter people slagging dave off cos he says these people are not muslims-theyre monsters
but theyre muslims & monsters
people saying he's trying not to insult muslims because when it comes to election he wants their vote
They are fanatics and their behaviour is monstrous.
Is it fair to condemn all believers of a faith for the disgusting actions of a few lunatics? I think DC is right on this one.
not my view
im telling you what people are saying
I know that, Pirate.
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
on twitter people slagging dave off cos he says these people are not muslims-theyre monsters
but theyre muslims & monsters
people saying he's trying not to insult muslims because when it comes to election he wants their vote
They are fanatics and their behaviour is monstrous.
Is it fair to condemn all believers of a faith for the disgusting actions of a few lunatics? I think DC is right on this one.
I agree. He's being very careful not to insult muslims en masse, but he has to be able to voice his views of these barbaric ppl who are definitely not doing this in the name of their religion.
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Xochi:
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
I wish that I had kept the article and I would have to subscribe to read it again. But Dominic Lawson's article in the Sunday Times a couple of weeks ago was as good an analysis I have seen.
Try googling the following and see what you can find........
These beheaders arenât jihadists, theyâre the cast of A Clockwork Orange
Try googling the following and see what you can find........
These beheaders arenât jihadists, theyâre the cast of A Clockwork Orange
I couldn't google what you suggested Carport, but I cannot say how much your reference to Clockwork Orange resonated with the mindless, aggressive brutality that the likes of Alex and his droogs engaged in.
Xochi, I added a link in one of my posts ^^^^ which reprinted the Dominic Lawson article that Joe mentioned.
Thanks Yogz. 
A remarkable comment piece and stresses what I believe the media must do now. They must stop referring to them as any sort of 'fighters'. They are indeed hooligans and analysing them as anything else is counter-productive.
these people ARE muslims
but they are nasty power seeking bastards
and they have to be stopped
stopped in their tracks
evil nasty bastards
they are trying to wipe a religion out
they should be wiped out first
if i was in charge id send EVERY maverick in to wipe them out
So sad to hear this news 
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
these people ARE muslims
but they are nasty power seeking bastards
and they have to be stopped
stopped in their tracks
evil nasty bastards
they are trying to wipe a religion out
they should be wiped out first
if i was in charge id send EVERY maverick in to wipe them out
No pirate, they are not muslims because they are clearly disrespecting their creed. They are using their twisted interpretation of Islamic belief as a reason for their 'jihad'. Their only game is warfare against any enemy they have conjured into their crazed minds.
I will say it again. The piece of crap that calls himself British that did this. Show your cowardly face. Despicable.
Originally Posted by Xochi:
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
these people ARE muslims
but they are nasty power seeking bastards
and they have to be stopped
stopped in their tracks
evil nasty bastards
they are trying to wipe a religion out
they should be wiped out first
if i was in charge id send EVERY maverick in to wipe them out
No pirate, they are not muslims because they are clearly disrespecting their creed. They are using their twisted interpretation of Islamic belief as a reason for their 'jihad'. Their only game is warfare against any enemy they have conjured into their crazed minds.
EXACTLY. They are using a faith to justify their twisted actions, and sadly that faith and those that follow it are being tarred.
I do appreciate you putting the work in to find that article, Yogi. I couldn't find it anywhere.
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
I do appreciate you putting the work in to find that article, Yogi. I couldn't find it anywhere.
You're welcome, Joe, and it was a very interesting article.
Alan Henning 'killed by Islamic State'
A video purporting to show the beheading of British hostage Alan Henning has been released by Islamic State militants.
The Salford taxi driver was delivering aid to Syria in December when he was kidnapped then held hostage by IS.
IS had threatened to kill the 47-year-old in a video showing the killing of Briton David Haines last month.
The UK Foreign Office said it was trying to verify the video, and if true it was a "further disgusting murder".
yes Mrs H, we've been discussing it in the Crib...tragic and undeniably evil
Its awful, poor man. His family must be in agony.
Originally Posted by Baz:
It's very sad These people have no conscience , no humanity ....they are mindless psychopaths 
Yes Baz - exactly right
Aid workers should now stop going into Syria, or indeed any middle east country...it's far too dangerous, and quite honestly, not worth it either.
Those people can't be bothered to help themselves so why should anyone else bother.
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Aid workers should now stop going into Syria, or indeed any middle east country...it's far too dangerous, and quite honestly, not worth it either.
Those people can't be bothered to help themselves so why should anyone else bother.
which people can't be bothered to help themselves? 
they too are being murdered and raped 
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Aid workers should now stop going into Syria, or indeed any middle east country...it's far too dangerous, and quite honestly, not worth it either.
Those people can't be bothered to help themselves so why should anyone else bother.
which people can't be bothered to help themselves? they too are being murdered and raped
And they never rise up and fight back, all they do is wait for the next bunch of nutters to come round to abuse them some more, and we are left to pick up the pieces.
They are always needing our help...it's getting boring now.
Very sad news, I hope he can rest in peace now 
and that the big man in the sky will deal with those responsible!
and that the big man in the sky will deal with those responsible!
Aww jeeze no... I heard a report on the radio today saying John Cantlie's father had issued a plea for his life and I actually said 'i wish they wouldn't do that... the last time the family issued a plea for a hostages life the poor guy was dead a day later' Different hostage, but it's like they're just taunting the world now. Bastards.
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Aww jeeze no... I heard a report on the radio today saying John Cantlie's father had issued a plea for his life and I actually said 'i wish they wouldn't do that... the last time the family issued a plea for a hostages life the poor guy was dead a day later' Different hostage, but it's like they're just taunting the world now. Bastards.
That's what I thought as well but I'm convinced they love the sadism about it all and it's nothing to do with reacting to air strikes either. They will do it anyway.
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Aww jeeze no... I heard a report on the radio today saying John Cantlie's father had issued a plea for his life and I actually said 'i wish they wouldn't do that... the last time the family issued a plea for a hostages life the poor guy was dead a day later' Different hostage, but it's like they're just taunting the world now. Bastards.
That's what I thought as well but I'm convinced they love the sadism about it all and it's nothing to do with reacting to air strikes either. They will do it anyway.
All the hostages were probably Killed from the outset. Kept alive after they were kidnapped just long enough for the captors to get the video footage.
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Aww jeeze no... I heard a report on the radio today saying John Cantlie's father had issued a plea for his life and I actually said 'i wish they wouldn't do that... the last time the family issued a plea for a hostages life the poor guy was dead a day later' Different hostage, but it's like they're just taunting the world now. Bastards.
That's what I thought as well but I'm convinced they love the sadism about it all and it's nothing to do with reacting to air strikes either. They will do it anyway.
All the hostages were probably Killed from the outset. Kept alive after they were kidnapped just long enough for the captors to get the video footage.
Doesn't sound like it fluffs because apparently in Alan's video he blames Parliament's decision to join the air strikes.
TRANSCRIPT OF ISIS VIDEO
Alan Henning: 'I am Alan Henning. Because of our parliamentâs decision to attack the Islamic state I as a member of the British public will now pay the price for that decision.'
Jihadi John: 'The blood of David Haines was on your hands Cameron, Alan Henning will also be slaughtered but his blood is on the hands of the British parliament.'
Jihadi John then steps forward to cut Mr Henning's throat and his body is shown lying on the floor.
Peter Kassig is then shown kneeling next to Jihadi John.
Jihadi John: 'Obama you have started your aerial bombardment in Sham (Syria) which keeps on striking our people, so itâs only right we continue to strike the necks of your people.'
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These people are barbaric...
What I don't get is why they are fighting a 'war'... who declared war on them, whoever they are?.. in fact who the hell are they, where did they come from.. what are they hoping to get if they 'win'?
oh and to continue my rant, if this cause they are fighting for is so worthy, whatever it is, why are they so ashamed to show their faces?
They are just a bunch of murdering psychopaths. .Death should not be an option for them at all. .it is what they use to 'martyr' themselves and get more recruits.. round them up and shove them on an abandoned island somewhere and they can kill each other off.. oh and only leave them food they aren't allowed to eat under their 'religion'... keep them alive and shamed for as long as is possible.. Now that would be a punishment
And shoot any human rights activists who try to interfere 
rant over . . blood vessels almost exploding 
Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:
These people are barbaric...
What I don't get is why they are fighting a 'war'... who declared war on them, whoever they are?.. in fact who the hell are they, where did they come from.. what are they hoping to get if they 'win'?
Total world domination under sharia law.
Originally Posted by squiggle:
Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:
These people are barbaric...
What I don't get is why they are fighting a 'war'... who declared war on them, whoever they are?.. in fact who the hell are they, where did they come from.. what are they hoping to get if they 'win'?
Total world domination under sharia law.
Oh right thanks Squiggle. . 
so this lot are the modern day communists.. except they can show their atrocities online for all to see in this modern age.. but they hide their faces, whereas the commies hid their deeds..
In an unusual coincidence if we had supported the communists in Afghanistan then this lot wouldn't have got of the ground.
Later on we told you what would happen if the powers that be destabilised the Middle East by removing the strong leaders. If people with mere BAs in Global Politics can suss it out then I'm sure HMG can. Thus you should be asking your MPs what the long term plan is.
Meanwhile I really do think this shower of sheight are beyond negotiation (as recommended by the silly greens) and they should be destroyed forthwith.
I've just been reading the MOPO and it more of less mirrors what is happening in the UK.
Later on we told you what would happen if the powers that be destabilised the Middle East by removing the strong leaders. If people with mere BAs in Global Politics can suss it out then I'm sure HMG can. Thus you should be asking your MPs what the long term plan is.
Meanwhile I really do think this shower of sheight are beyond negotiation (as recommended by the silly greens) and they should be destroyed forthwith.
I've just been reading the MOPO and it more of less mirrors what is happening in the UK.