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They are all as bad as each other if you ask me

 

Expenses scandal: Labour MP made thousands letting flat to fellow member

The Labour MP Linda Riordan has made thousands of pounds renting out a flat in London to a fellow MP, while simultaneously claiming taxpayer funds to rent a second home for herself, it was claimed last night.

MP's Linda Riordan and Iain McKenzie: Keeping it in House: Labour MP made thousands letting flat to fellow member
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Linda Riordan is renting her London flat to fellow MP Iain McKenzie, right, while simultaneously claiming taxpayer funds to rent a second home for herself, it is claimed 
squiggle
Originally Posted by squiggle:

They are all as bad as each other if you ask me

 

Expenses scandal: Labour MP made thousands letting flat to fellow member

The Labour MP Linda Riordan has made thousands of pounds renting out a flat in London to a fellow MP, while simultaneously claiming taxpayer funds to rent a second home for herself, it was claimed last night.

MP's Linda Riordan and Iain McKenzie: Keeping it in House: Labour MP made thousands letting flat to fellow member
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Linda Riordan is renting her London flat to fellow MP Iain McKenzie, right, while simultaneously claiming taxpayer funds to rent a second home for herself, it is claimed 

 

 

Liam Fox (Con)

Don Foster (Lib Dem)

Tory MPs David Amess and Peter Luff

Liberal Democrat Nick Harvey

 

Lets be fair here Squiggle, that's half a story to be honest,^^^^ you posted above!

 

 

 

Considering  everytime George Osborne opens his mouth is to brain wash the public that everyone claiming benefit is a cheat, I think it's ironic that he should be caught out doing this. 

 

never in my life can I remember a government like this.

Dame_Ann_Average

 

 

Obviously he didn't want to mix with the plebs, but paid for a plebs ticket 

 

 
Rachel Townsend
Very interesting train journey to Euston Chancellor George Osborne just got on at Wilmslow with a STANDARD ticket and he has sat in FIRST

 

 

 
Rachel Townsend
CLASS. His aide tells ticket collector he cannot possibly move and sit with the likes of us in standard class and requests he is allowed to

 

 

 
Rachel Townsend
remain in First Class. Ticket collector refuses 

 

 

 
Rachel Townsend
 I'm prepping the ticket collector for a scrap!

 

 

 
Rachel Townsend
 I am a carriage away from the action but have asked ticket inspector if he was going to let him stay "no chance"

 

 

 
Rachel Townsend
ÂĢ160 for First Class upgrade... aide says no!

 

 

 
Rachel Townsend
My updates may slow down - I remain in standard and no sign of George. Has he paid the upgrade? 

 

 

 
Rachel Townsend
Breaking news: George Osborne pays ÂĢ160 to stay in first class!
Dame_Ann_Average

Can't remember who said it but I thought it was a very wise remark someone once said.  'Anyone who expresses an interest in standing for public office should be prohibited from ever doing such a thing'  It's never gonna happen but you do get a bit fed up with the people who are only in it for what they can get out of it.

squiggle
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by squiggle:

They are all as bad as each other if you ask me

 

Expenses scandal: Labour MP made thousands letting flat to fellow member

The Labour MP Linda Riordan has made thousands of pounds renting out a flat in London to a fellow MP, while simultaneously claiming taxpayer funds to rent a second home for herself, it was claimed last night.

MP's Linda Riordan and Iain McKenzie: Keeping it in House: Labour MP made thousands letting flat to fellow member
Image 1 of 2
Linda Riordan is renting her London flat to fellow MP Iain McKenzie, right, while simultaneously claiming taxpayer funds to rent a second home for herself, it is claimed 

 

 

Liam Fox (Con)

Don Foster (Lib Dem)

Tory MPs David Amess and Peter Luff

Liberal Democrat Nick Harvey

 

Lets be fair here Squiggle, that's half a story to be honest,^^^^ you posted above!

 

 

 

Considering  everytime George Osborne opens his mouth is to brain wash the public that everyone claiming benefit is a cheat, I think it's ironic that he should be caught out doing this. 

 

never in my life can I remember a government like this.

The DM has the story up with just her mentioned followed by all the usual "Champagne socialist hypocrites" comments from their readership. 

 

Fair enough but I thought the Tory party that claims to believe in self-reliance, the work ethic and bigs up the private sector while trashing the public sector as wasteful at every given opportunity, might not want to be seen filling its boots on state-funded freebies.

 

As you say Dame_ann, it's not just Labour.

Carnelian
Originally Posted by Carnelian:
 

The DM has the story up with just her mentioned followed by all the usual "Champagne socialist hypocrites" comments from their readership. 

 

Fair enough but I thought the Tory party that claims to believe in self-reliance, the work ethic and bigs up the private sector while trashing the public sector as wasteful at every given opportunity, might not want to be seen filling its boots on state-funded freebies.

 

As you say Dame_ann, it's not just Labour.

 

 

Now how did I guess that was from the Daily Mail  I wouldn't use it to light a fire, considering every other newspaper and news channel reported the story a tad more impartially and named members of all parties, I would have though the Daily Fail would have at least reported this one right 

Dame_Ann_Average

Can someone tell me, when was the insult "pleb" an upper class insult to call the lower classes?

 

Im certainly not upper class in anyway but i've heard the pleb insult for years and years from where I grew up and went to school....but according to the labour party only the upper classes have ever heard of the "pleb" word and are the only ones to ever use it as an insult to mock us common folk.

 

 

Videostar
Originally Posted by Videostar:

Can someone tell me, when was the insult "pleb" an upper class insult to call the lower classes?

 

Im certainly not upper class in anyway but i've heard the pleb insult for years and years from where I grew up and went to school....but according to the labour party only the upper classes have ever heard of the "pleb" word and are the only ones to ever use it as an insult to mock us common folk.

 

 

And maybe that's the problem. I don't mind someone being of a higher class than me, but when they use the word like that.........no! 

FM
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by pirate1111:

andy 'pleb' mitchell has resigned and george osborne caught trying to use a standard ticket in first class on train

pair of tossers

 

nice example to the country

Yep, you lefties are getting your pound of flesh.

 

Where were you when Labour MP's were upto no good?

TBF, the whole country was up in arms over the expenses scandal. It didn't matter which colour had done the deed. Mitchell represents everything that's wrong about this Government. Cameron can say as many times as he likes that we are all in it together, the perceived wisdom is that we are not.

cologne 1
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

Can someone tell me, when was the insult "pleb" an upper class insult to call the lower classes?

 

Im certainly not upper class in anyway but i've heard the pleb insult for years and years from where I grew up and went to school....but according to the labour party only the upper classes have ever heard of the "pleb" word and are the only ones to ever use it as an insult to mock us common folk.

 

 

And maybe that's the problem. I don't mind someone being of a higher class than me, but when they use it like that.........no! 

BUT the word pleb is used by any class of people, i've heard of that word, im sure you have,  but Labour MP's have jumped on this as a Toryboy insult....but it's a random insult that could have been used by anyone to anyone, IMO.

Videostar
Originally Posted by Videostar:

Can someone tell me, when was the insult "pleb" an upper class insult to call the lower classes?

 

Im certainly not upper class in anyway but i've heard the pleb insult for years and years from where I grew up and went to school....but according to the labour party only the upper classes have ever heard of the "pleb" word and are the only ones to ever use it as an insult to mock us common folk.

 

 

That's not true at all. Anybody who uses the expression does it to insult (unless it's done in a joking environment). It's a put down, pure and simple.
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cologne 1
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

Can someone tell me, when was the insult "pleb" an upper class insult to call the lower classes?

 

Im certainly not upper class in anyway but i've heard the pleb insult for years and years from where I grew up and went to school....but according to the labour party only the upper classes have ever heard of the "pleb" word and are the only ones to ever use it as an insult to mock us common folk.

 

 

And maybe that's the problem. I don't mind someone being of a higher class than me, but when they use it like that.........no! 

BUT the word pleb is used by any class of people, i've heard of that word, im sure you have,  but Labour MP's have jumped on this as a Toryboy insult....but it's a random insult that could have been used by anyone to anyone, IMO.

Yes, of course I've heard of it, but to my knowledge I haven't used it in a derogatory way to people of a lower class than me 

FM
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

Can someone tell me, when was the insult "pleb" an upper class insult to call the lower classes?

 

Im certainly not upper class in anyway but i've heard the pleb insult for years and years from where I grew up and went to school....but according to the labour party only the upper classes have ever heard of the "pleb" word and are the only ones to ever use it as an insult to mock us common folk.

 

 

And maybe that's the problem. I don't mind someone being of a higher class than me, but when they use it like that.........no! 

BUT the word pleb is used by any class of people, i've heard of that word, im sure you have,  but Labour MP's have jumped on this as a Toryboy insult....but it's a random insult that could have been used by anyone to anyone, IMO.

Yes, of course I've heard of it, but to my knowledge I haven't used it in a derogatory way to people of a lower class than me 


But it doesn't have to be used to a lower class to you, it could be used as just an insult.

 

 

Videostar
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by pirate1111:

andy 'pleb' mitchell has resigned and george osborne caught trying to use a standard ticket in first class on train

pair of tossers

 

nice example to the country

Yep, you lefties are getting your pound of flesh.

 

Where were you when Labour MP's were upto no good?

TBF, the whole country was up in arms over the expenses scandal. It didn't matter which colour had done the deed. Mitchell represents everything that's wrong about this Government. Cameron can say as many times as he likes that we are all in it together, the perceived wisdom is that we are not.

 

 

but we now have David Laws back the cabinet, was never taken to task about his expenses although found guilty by his peers of claiming 950 a month rent to pay to his partner ... and then we had a Labour MP sent to prison for claiming 13 thousand pounds... you couldn't make it up 

Dame_Ann_Average
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

Can someone tell me, when was the insult "pleb" an upper class insult to call the lower classes?

 

Im certainly not upper class in anyway but i've heard the pleb insult for years and years from where I grew up and went to school....but according to the labour party only the upper classes have ever heard of the "pleb" word and are the only ones to ever use it as an insult to mock us common folk.

 

 

That's not true at all. Anybody who uses the expression does it to insult (unless it's done in a joking environment). It's a put down, pure and simple.
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Of course it's to insult someone, but it's not always used as a class based insult...it's just a insulting negative name to call someone.

Videostar
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

Can someone tell me, when was the insult "pleb" an upper class insult to call the lower classes?

 

Im certainly not upper class in anyway but i've heard the pleb insult for years and years from where I grew up and went to school....but according to the labour party only the upper classes have ever heard of the "pleb" word and are the only ones to ever use it as an insult to mock us common folk.

 

 

That's not true at all. Anybody who uses the expression does it to insult (unless it's done in a joking environment). It's a put down, pure and simple.
,

Of course it's to insult someone, but it's not always used as a class based insult...it's just a insulting negative name to call someone.

I beg to differ. I think it is 'class' based 

FM
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
 


But it doesn't have to be used to a lower class to you, it could be used as just an insult.

 

 

 

 

well it associated with the lower classes, and he would have know that.... 

But do you think in that split second he used that word (and he still says he didn't say the word) that he thought about the history and real meaning of that word...in the heat of the moment?   I doubt it.

 

He may have used it in the spur of the moment, as we all do from time to time when we use an insulting word to someone. lol

Videostar
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:

 

 

Its history,,,, you had you had the Roman patricians (upper class in simple terms) and the plebeians (lower class) 

Im sure people who are working class have called others "plebs" in the past, just as a random insult.

 

It's just a word.

 

 

well if you think its ok for a member of parliament to call a police officer a pleb and a moron ...  if I went out on a Saturday night and said that to a copper here, my feet wouldn't touch the ground until I landed in the back of a Police van. 

Dame_Ann_Average
Originally Posted by Baz:
It's a storm in a teacup as far as I'm concerned, one that Labour has made a meal off ! But hey ho, what goes around tends to come around in politics , so their day will come ...and given their record probably sooner rather than later


Boy oh boy, have Labour and their idiot leader (who can't talk properly) jumped all over this like a tramp on chips lol.

Videostar
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:

 

 

Its history,,,, you had you had the Roman patricians (upper class in simple terms) and the plebeians (lower class) 

Im sure people who are working class have called others "plebs" in the past, just as a random insult.

 

It's just a word.

 

 

well if you think its ok for a member of parliament to call a police officer a pleb and a moron ...  if I went out on a Saturday night and said that to a copper here, my feet wouldn't touch the ground until I landed in the back of a Police van. 

So why didn't the copper arrest him straight away then?   that is very odd in itself.

Videostar
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
 


But it doesn't have to be used to a lower class to you, it could be used as just an insult.

 

 

 

 

well it associated with the lower classes, and he would have know that.... 

But do you think in that split second he used that word (and he still says he didn't say the word) that he thought about the history and real meaning of that word...in the heat of the moment?   I doubt it.

 

He may have used it in the spur of the moment, as we all do from time to time when we use an insulting word to someone. lol

That's the problem. He didn't think before he spoke (whatever he said)  and if he had he might not have said it 

FM

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