He didn't look very caring to me, he looked disgusted at the very notion. I got that from him saying something like if there were any gay boxers 'they better keep that to themselves'.

Evander boasted that after he won a big fight he spent $20 million on a mansion.

He's like those Televangelists i.m.o. Doesn't practice what he preaches.

I find you articulate Olly  

ok I've just been catching up on C5 videos and watching him give Casey advice and I take back the he may be thick comment. . he gave good advice to her

thanks Rosey but, I post something sometimes then read something someone else has written and I think that is what I really wanted to say but I couldn't find the words to make it come out like that or sound as knowledgeable. .probably cos I ain't    

Don't worry about it Olly. I DO know what you mean though. I swear my literacy has gone downhill in recent times - I can't put points across in a non-waffly way  

Ahh the good old Prosperity Gospel. My fave topic on facebook 

 

 

 ROFL!! I love that, Suzy 

I feel like that all the time. Depends how much sleep I've had (or if I've have a little drink ). I read back what I've written and think, eh? And besides English is not my first language so sometimes it gets more flowery than I imagined or hoped 

You'd never guess. Though often people with English as a second language speak it better   

 

What's your first language Suzy?

A Ghanaian language called Twi. I spoke it exclusively until I came to the UK aged 5. I could say odd bits like 'my name is' and 'I am 4 years old' etc. That was in spite of my father being English and both my parents being journalists in the English language. It was all very strange, I still remember being plonked in primary school and being put with all the Asian kids who spoke only Urdu and Gujarati, but we caught up quickly. I still mainly speak Twi with my Ghanaian family, and with my parents and brothers when we're gossiping  Oh, and all my kids gets told off in Twi, it's the best language to scream in 

 How cool Suzy.

I am not trying to sugar you up or anything but I have always thought your posts have been brilliant, well put together and also very knowledgeable. .I have envied your ability to express you thoughts.. even if I haven't always agreed with stuff, tho that is usually pretty rare and may be more when in politico threads as I trend to be slightly right of centre and this forum is mainly left from what I have gathered.. but even so it is great to read a well put together argument. .

 

and for someone who has English as a second language you beat most of us hands down ..

 

 

Oh thanks Ollie, means a lot to me  I think the same of you, and disagreement is not always a negative. I find total agreement quite boring 

That's great that you keep the language going with your kids. .my one regret is that my father never spoke Polish to me in the house when it was just me and my mum there and no Polish visitors...

 

altho I started learning to read and write it from school books sent over at the same time as I started at school here I didn't go to proper lessons that were held at the Polish club so never learnt it well enough to speak properly,  tho I did speak it a bit when younger and understood more but not well and forgot it due to lack of practice and mingling with Polish people after my father died many yrs ago. . was a reason I was so thrilled with the new Polish influx as I got to hear the language again and not only that a lot of the local shops now all stock Polish sausage as well. .a staple in my childhood

 

. .same problem with my French and Italian. . no regular speaking opportunity and whoosh it all goes.. it's so great to have more than one language and it helps you when learning others too

gawd yeah isn't it just? 

 

and my typo said I trend to be when I meant I tend to be.. I can't even proof read properly anymore

Yeah until one of my aunts once asked my son what he could say in Twi and he said 'Foolishness, get out of my sight, if you don't stop I will beat you, you goat!'  

 

Just about all I can recall in Polish is some statement about how Warsaw is a better Capital city than Krakow and one of my dads mates slapping his fist on the table as he shouted it with a lot of curse words  as well.  don't ask me to type it tho

 

Politics was a common theme around the table when the Poles came to drink, eat and generally get pissed up visit

hahaha I wouldn't be able to type it either, it has different letters and I didn't stay to be taught to read or write it, just yell it 

 

Sorry Olls, I got your post muddled up with Suzy's...

there are no vowels in the Polish language. .that I can recall anyway . .and altho I don't speak it I still get my V's and W's mixed up when speaking.. same as my dad did

 

and if I recall correctly to get the W sound it is a letter L with a diagonal line thru the upright so totally confusing..

I thought so, cos I knew I hadn't posted anything remotely intelligent re the bible argument..

No vowels?  Here, have some of mine, I think Twi has about 20 different ones 

 

Back to Evander, apart from the Adam belongs with Eve bullcrap, I actually think he's a really nice bloke 

Yeah I suppose he's ok'ish apart from the fact he made his money by beating the crap out of people

I suppose that depends how you view boxing...   It's not like he's a hit man paid to go and beat the crap out of people.   He's just as likely to have the crap beaten out of him.. he takes part in a sport that might not be everyone's cup of tea, but I don't think it makes him a bad person.    I've known a couple of guys that boxed, played by the rules and I've known a few that go out and get stuck into a Saturday night brawl whenever possible and I know which I prefer.

It's consensual,they have to want to have the crap beaten out of them...

Whilst I respect your opinions about boxing no one is going to persuade me that people who want to go into a ring to punch seven bells out of another person, or have seven bells punched out of them, is someone I want to spend any time with.. whether they are nice the rest of the time or not. . it tells me something about them as people if they find it sport. . sorry..

the reason I am so strong about this is because, as a kid when I knew no better, I recall sitting with my parents watching Cassius Clay, as he was then, fighting Henry Cooper and the latter was so beaten up he was covered in blood all over his face and body. .this was in the time of black and white TV too and I was sickened at the sight of it .. thank gawd it hadn't been in colour...  and yeah I know the rules have changed but the concept of it all hasn't..

I 'm constantly informed that the boxing clubs in the unfashionable areas further down the river, are a force for good and teach kids discipline and health.
Personally I wouldn't want to be in the same town as boxers and their supporters. I do remember an old bloke telling me years ago, " ..... And son, a couple of blokes would go down the pub yard and have a fist fight for fun!" No wonder they are all such ugly dafcuns.

karate teaches discipline. .it's non contact and has an ancient philosophy around it's movements and routines. . boxing doesn't it just teaches them how to lump someone more efficiently

Oddly enough a colleague of mine rose through the belts at Karate. Non-contact? Surely you jest! He was always getting injured. No! I'm not into any so-called contact sport whatsoever. Discipline and education IMHYCO come from nice hobbies like jig-saws and stamp collecting.

I used to fence. Not stolen goods, with a sword (well an épée).

 

My dad did karate, he got to black belt 3rd dan.